Tank Watch 2025

[mjkvol]

Some massive games coming up. The fact that the East is trash as **** and we can't gain separation from the 10th seed is one of the main reasons that we haven't gone totally nuclear yet.

Your T6th from the bottom Philadelphia 76ers take on the T6th Brooklyn Nets next and then the 8th from the bottom Bulls after that.

Game changing losses needed.

This team tanking is the only thing keeping me invested. If we don’t get this pick, it’s going to be a long decade. Thank Morey we didn’t do something stupid like trade any valuable future 1sts.

Not sure I totally agree. No doubt the best solution would be a tank and a top 5 pick, but being done with OKC and that pick this year and being smart about how we go about next season might not be the worst thing in the world - as long as Morey doesn't drag his feet about pulling the plug and cleaning house at the first sign the "run back" isn't working.

I'm not blown away by anyone beyond Flagg in this draft, but if a legitimate tank can be done next season and the decks cleared of George and the rest of the worthless vets, we get to see the young guys play and set ourselves up for off season 2026

Being realistic, a tank is not happening this year. The hope is that Morey has a real plan and a contingency plan for '25-'26.

[ProcessDoctor]

Some massive games coming up. The fact that the East is trash as **** and we can't gain separation from the 10th seed is one of the main reasons that we haven't gone totally nuclear yet.

Your T6th from the bottom Philadelphia 76ers take on the T6th Brooklyn Nets next and then the 8th from the bottom Bulls after that.

Game changing losses needed.

This team tanking is the only thing keeping me invested. If we don’t get this pick, it’s going to be a long decade. Thank Morey we didn’t do something stupid like trade any valuable future 1sts.

What are you talking about ? We've lost two of our next three 1sts thanks to Morey and his short sighted deals.

You mean the 2025 to get out of Horfords deal? Or the 2027 to get rid of Simmons?

[Kobblehead]

Not sure I totally agree. No doubt the best solution would be a tank and a top 5 pick, but being done with OKC and that pick this year and being smart about how we go about next season might not be the worst thing in the world - as long as Morey doesn't drag his feet about pulling the plug and cleaning house at the first sign the "run back" isn't working.

I'm not blown away by anyone beyond Flagg in this draft, but if a legitimate tank can be done next season and the decks cleared of George and the rest of the worthless vets, we get to see the young guys play and set ourselves up for off season 2026

Being realistic, a tank is not happening this year. The hope is that Morey has a real plan and a contingency plan for '25-'26.

I would be more willing to pay our debt to OKC this year if there wasn't a generational guy like Flagg within grasp.

[mjkvol]

Not sure I totally agree. No doubt the best solution would be a tank and a top 5 pick, but being done with OKC and that pick this year and being smart about how we go about next season might not be the worst thing in the world - as long as Morey doesn't drag his feet about pulling the plug and cleaning house at the first sign the "run back" isn't working.

I'm not blown away by anyone beyond Flagg in this draft, but if a legitimate tank can be done next season and the decks cleared of George and the rest of the worthless vets, we get to see the young guys play and set ourselves up for off season 2026

Being realistic, a tank is not happening this year. The hope is that Morey has a real plan and a contingency plan for '25-'26.

I would be more willing to pay our debt to OKC this year if there wasn't a generational guy like Flagg within grasp.

I would anticipate Portland, Brooklyn, and Toronto going into full tank mode, and wouldn't doubt if SA joined them. The odds of getting inside of the top 5 are slim, but to get #1?

I don't disagree with you, but like I said, if it just clears the pick this year it isn't the end of the world.

[sixers hoops]

Not sure I totally agree. No doubt the best solution would be a tank and a top 5 pick, but being done with OKC and that pick this year and being smart about how we go about next season might not be the worst thing in the world - as long as Morey doesn't drag his feet about pulling the plug and cleaning house at the first sign the "run back" isn't working.

I'm not blown away by anyone beyond Flagg in this draft, but if a legitimate tank can be done next season and the decks cleared of George and the rest of the worthless vets, we get to see the young guys play and set ourselves up for off season 2026

Being realistic, a tank is not happening this year. The hope is that Morey has a real plan and a contingency plan for '25-'26.

I would be more willing to pay our debt to OKC this year if there wasn't a generational guy like Flagg within grasp.

We don’t have much chance at keeping the pick, but better than the alternative.

At 5th worst, we have a 10% chance at the top pick and a 70% chance of keeping the pick. Those odds are much more exciting than limping through a round of the playoffs. However, if we are 6th worst, we have great odds of dropping to 7th and losing the pick.

The ideal, realistic finish to the season would be to finish with no worse than the 5th best odds. I hope Morey pushes things in that direction.

[mjkvol]

Not sure I totally agree. No doubt the best solution would be a tank and a top 5 pick, but being done with OKC and that pick this year and being smart about how we go about next season might not be the worst thing in the world - as long as Morey doesn't drag his feet about pulling the plug and cleaning house at the first sign the "run back" isn't working.

I'm not blown away by anyone beyond Flagg in this draft, but if a legitimate tank can be done next season and the decks cleared of George and the rest of the worthless vets, we get to see the young guys play and set ourselves up for off season 2026

Being realistic, a tank is not happening this year. The hope is that Morey has a real plan and a contingency plan for '25-'26.

I would be more willing to pay our debt to OKC this year if there wasn't a generational guy like Flagg within grasp.

We don’t have much chance at keeping the pick, but better than the alternative.

At 5th worst, we have a 10% chance at the top pick and a 70% chance of keeping the pick. Those odds are much more exciting than limping through a round of the playoffs. However, if we are 6th worst, we have great odds of dropping to 7th and losing the pick.

The ideal, realistic finish to the season would be to finish with no worse than the 5th best odds. I hope Morey pushes things in that direction.

Oh, I'm in no way advocating making a run (however pathetic it might be) for the playoffs. I've been 100% Team Tank since we were 5-20 or whatever.

Shut Embiid down and get his surgery done, let George be the tank commander and potentially raise his trade value, and the chips will fall wherever they do.

[Kobblehead]

Anywhere in the top 5 sets up our future really well.

There are three stat-stuffing, statistical darlings (Flagg, Jakucionis, Harper) and two athletic freaks (Bailey, Edgecombe).

So there's consolation prizes left and right in this draft class, even for those that miss out on the Flagg sweepstakes.

[Mik317]

yall just know this stupid ass franchise will somehow go on a fluke run, the real deranged of us will get hype...then Biid will come down with some new medical anomaly and we will be too far ahead or in the play in for any of it to matter. Two wins put us right back "in it" after all.

always expect the stupidest things to happen

[Negrodamus]

yall just know this stupid ass franchise will somehow go on a fluke run, the real deranged of us will get hype...then Biid will come down with some new medical anomaly and we will be too far ahead or in the play in for any of it to matter. Two wins put us right back "in it" after all.

always expect the stupidest things to happen

Yep, we’re about to play the Nets, Bulls, Blazers, Jazz, Hawks… it’s not like we’re playing the Celtics every night. We’re going to win a bunch of games in the coming weeks, so unless Embiid and PG go out for the season, I’m guessing that pick is good as gone.

[Zumramania]

Well with how PG and Embiid have been playing lately...anything is possible!

[phifans]

This team tanking is the only thing keeping me invested. If we don’t get this pick, it’s going to be a long decade. Thank Morey we didn’t do something stupid like trade any valuable future 1sts.

What are you talking about ? We've lost two of our next three 1sts thanks to Morey and his short sighted deals.

You mean the 2025 to get out of Horfords deal? Or the 2027 to get rid of Simmons?

So you are ok with attaching a light protected 1st round pick to get out of Horfords deal ?

[mjkvol]

Anywhere in the top 5 sets up our future really well.

There are three stat-stuffing, statistical darlings (Flagg, Jakucionis, Harper) and two athletic freaks (Bailey, Edgecombe).

So there's consolation prizes left and right in this draft class, even for those that miss out on the Flagg sweepstakes.

I've only seen a little of Rutgers, but the only two who interest me at all (aside from Flagg) are Jakucionis and Edgecombe. As skilled as he is, Queen just looks like a tweener and reminds me more of Yabusele than anything else. But a guard combo of Jakucionis with Maxey and McCain is incredibly enticing.

[Negrodamus]

Anywhere in the top 5 sets up our future really well.

There are three stat-stuffing, statistical darlings (Flagg, Jakucionis, Harper) and two athletic freaks (Bailey, Edgecombe).

So there's consolation prizes left and right in this draft class, even for those that miss out on the Flagg sweepstakes.

I've only seen a little of Rutgers, but the only two who interest me at all (aside from Flagg) are Jakucionis and Edgecombe. As skilled as he is, Queen just looks like a tweener and reminds me more of Yabusele than anything else. But a guard combo of Jakucionis with Maxey and McCain is incredibly enticing.

I fear Edgecombe and Jakucionis are going to be too small to pair with Maxey and McCain. If we're going the tanking route, I'd like whoever we get to be a SF or PF to be able to play with those two on the court at the same time.

I think Queen will ultimately be a PF and will be more in the vein of Cousins, Randle, ZBo than Yabusele, but I can understand the apprehension with him since he needs time to transform his body.

Bailey is unfortunately the most alluring prospect due to his size and his defensive capabilities. But he also needs a body transformation and learn how to be a more efficient scorer. He doesn't draw contact enough and doesn't have the handles to really create separation great. I have zero expectations of him ever being a creator. But him as a defensive wing who has the ability to get a bucket is alluring with McCain and Maxey in a draft with so few two way, plus sized SFs. He just doesn't impact the game a whole lot right now and it's evident with the team's record. Bad advanced stats. Bad FT%. Bad shots.

[sixers hoops]

I would be more willing to pay our debt to OKC this year if there wasn't a generational guy like Flagg within grasp.

We don’t have much chance at keeping the pick, but better than the alternative.

At 5th worst, we have a 10% chance at the top pick and a 70% chance of keeping the pick. Those odds are much more exciting than limping through a round of the playoffs. However, if we are 6th worst, we have great odds of dropping to 7th and losing the pick.

The ideal, realistic finish to the season would be to finish with no worse than the 5th best odds. I hope Morey pushes things in that direction.

Oh, I'm in no way advocating making a run (however pathetic it might be) for the playoffs. I've been 100% Team Tank since we were 5-20 or whatever.

Shut Embiid down and get his surgery done, let George be the tank commander and potentially raise his trade value, and the chips will fall wherever they do.

The ceiling for this team was a championship team, but that was the most optimistic view based on health. Considering Embiid’s knees, this team can’t make a serious run, so keeping the pick makes sense. Honestly, if Embiid needs surgery, we might end up bottom 4 next year, and end up giving OKC a second rounder once the protections are exhausted. I would rather keep the pick this year since we are already struggling, and figure out the rest later.

[sixers hoops]

Anywhere in the top 5 sets up our future really well.

There are three stat-stuffing, statistical darlings (Flagg, Jakucionis, Harper) and two athletic freaks (Bailey, Edgecombe).

So there's consolation prizes left and right in this draft class, even for those that miss out on the Flagg sweepstakes.

Good to know. Similar to SA building a younger team around David Robinson when they used his injury to tank, we need to stop focusing on Joel’s timeline. He can’t be depended on to play so his role in our future plans is us having a monster center to play with our younger talent if he ever gets healthy.,

[mjkvol]

Anywhere in the top 5 sets up our future really well.

There are three stat-stuffing, statistical darlings (Flagg, Jakucionis, Harper) and two athletic freaks (Bailey, Edgecombe).

So there's consolation prizes left and right in this draft class, even for those that miss out on the Flagg sweepstakes.

I've only seen a little of Rutgers, but the only two who interest me at all (aside from Flagg) are Jakucionis and Edgecombe. As skilled as he is, Queen just looks like a tweener and reminds me more of Yabusele than anything else. But a guard combo of Jakucionis with Maxey and McCain is incredibly enticing.

I fear Edgecombe and Jakucionis are going to be too small to pair with Maxey and McCain. If we're going the tanking route, I'd like whoever we get to be a SF or PF to be able to play with those two on the court at the same time.

I think Queen will ultimately be a PF and will be more in the vein of Cousins, Randle, ZBo than Yabusele, but I can understand the apprehension with him since he needs time to transform his body.

Bailey is unfortunately the most alluring prospect due to his size and his defensive capabilities. But he also needs a body transformation and learn how to be a more efficient scorer. He doesn't draw contact enough and doesn't have the handles to really create separation great. I have zero expectations of him ever being a creator. But him as a defensive wing who has the ability to get a bucket is alluring with McCain and Maxey in a draft with so few two way, plus sized SFs. He just doesn't impact the game a whole lot right now and it's evident with the team's record. Bad advanced stats. Bad FT%. Bad shots.

That's what scares me about both Rutgers kids. With their talent alone, Rutgers should be far better than they are, an easy NCAA team that no one would want to face because of that talent. Simmons and Fultz permanently scared me off of talented but losing college players. If they can't impact games at that level ..........

You see the potential of Cousins in Queen? I need to check out more NC State.

[Arsenal]

Massive L vs BKN. If we can pull out another clutch L vs CHI we’re looking good.

[Sixteen]

Cooper Flagg in the birthplace of the American Flag? a marketing match made in heaven. Bro is going to look good in that deep sixers blue

[sodmoraes]

Man if we coud catch the craptors in the stands it would be massive, but we have 3 more wins... i dont think they will win another game sadly... that win streak we had was dumb...

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[Black Mage]

Man if we coud catch the craptors in the stands it would be massive, but we have 3 more wins... i dont think they will win another game sadly... that win streak we had was dumb...

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I posted this awhile back, but I'll bring it up now as more of us are watching losses. The Sixers have the hardest scheduled out of all remaining lottery teams. The other teams have the most games against each other which means someone has to pick up a win on us. The Raptors are one of the few losing teams we still had direct 1 on 1 matchups against allowing us to further send wins out.

The Raptors, shockingly still have 15 games against tanking teams (tossing Bulls and Spurs now into the mix). We still have 2 games against them; if we out tank them in those games we're down to 1 game for a tie and 2 for the win. Raptors schedule:

2 vs Hornets
2 vs Sixers
2 vs Bulls
2 vs Nets
2 vs Spurs
2 vs Jazz
3 vs Wizards

The Nets games are just icing for us because either team forced into a win is great. Bulls also helps b/c it either feeds Bulls further into the 10th seed or we pick up wins on the Raptors.

It's not just possible, but likely we could reach the 5 seed in the lotto.