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Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out

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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#121 » by Matches Malone » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:06 am

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BigO wrote: and blaming Doc for this lineup.


We're shorthanded so we have an excuse but the rotations he decides to stagger are bad ideas.


I sometimes disagree with his rotations, but the Bucks have a crap roster, except for about five guys. And some of those five are out and some of the five are not starting caliber.

Basketball, like most sports is won by talent. Not many games are won or lost because the coach gave too many minutes to one player over another.


I don't disagree that talent will shine, but when you're without your best players, you could be helping your team and young players by putting them in more advantageous lineups.

Bernman pointed it out pretty perfectly:

Bernman wrote:It's like he tries to lose. He starts out w/ Green next to a non-creator in Rollins. But he doesn't start Green next to Dame who can create but not defend.

Then, he takes Giannis out, but Kuzma doesn't come back in, & KPJ stays out. You have no creation on the floor. And he had 3 smalls, Pat as his pf, next to Brook. So you can't rebound at all. Doc's a horrific coach.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#122 » by blazza18 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:08 am

Jon Horst should feel embarrassed by that half of basketball.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#123 » by -Jragon- » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:08 am

-Jragon- wrote:Get it within 5


I was close
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#124 » by brewbucks » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:09 am

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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#125 » by Matches Malone » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:09 am

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-Jragon- wrote:Get it within 5


I was close


I'll take it. Time for a second-half splash mountain master class.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#126 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:09 am

Down 6, feels like it should be 20.

Rollins better in the second quarter. Green/Trent 2/11
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Post#127 » by StickeeFingaz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:09 am

Down 6 while being TERRIBLE, I’ll take it.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#128 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:10 am

blazza18 wrote:Jon Horst should feel embarrassed by that half of basketball.

Because we're on a road B2B without Dame, Portis, Prince and most of Giannis?
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Post#129 » by Bucksmaniac » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:14 am

blazza18 wrote:Jon Horst should feel embarrassed by that half of basketball.


We’re missing 3.5 rotation players, does Horst determine health? Not a huge fan of his but given the circumstances getting two solid players, and a meh backup for Brook and only giving up part time Middleton as far as rotation players is a fine deadline.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#130 » by rilamann » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:16 am

Doc should be left in DC if Giannis plays at all in the 2nd half.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#131 » by Dick Tate » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:17 am

This is going to be a W. Take it any way you can on the road on a b2b with a hobbled Giannis, no Dame… Decent end to the half. G2G

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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#132 » by BigO » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:21 am

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We're shorthanded so we have an excuse but the rotations he decides to stagger are bad ideas.


I sometimes disagree with his rotations, but the Bucks have a crap roster, except for about five guys. And some of those five are out and some of the five are not starting caliber.

Basketball, like most sports is won by talent. Not many games are won or lost because the coach gave too many minutes to one player over another.


I don't disagree that talent will shine, but when you're without your best players, you could be helping your team and young players by putting them in more advantageous lineups.

Bernman pointed it out pretty perfectly:

Bernman wrote:It's like he tries to lose. He starts out w/ Green next to a non-creator in Rollins. But he doesn't start Green next to Dame who can create but not defend.

Then, he takes Giannis out, but Kuzma doesn't come back in, & KPJ stays out. You have no creation on the floor. And he had 3 smalls, Pat as his pf, next to Brook. So you can't rebound at all. Doc's a horrific coach.


These arguments are all logical, but not determinative.

KPJ played with Green in the first half and the result was no different than when Rollins was with Green. I would also have played Green more with Dame yesterday, but my point is whoever you pair Rollins,, Porter or Green with is not a big deal.

They're all fringe players.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#133 » by Matches Malone » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:25 am

The rare 4-point play :D
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#134 » by Serge28 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:27 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:on a very small window on my phone, Kuz looks like giannis


Their builds are similar. But Giannis is bigger, smarter, more skilled, and less spastic.

Watching Kuzma has made me appreciate even more just how fluid Giannis is for his size.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#135 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:27 am

What I wouldn't give to have Koehn and Marcus do the games regularly.
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Post#136 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:30 am

Just let Kuz and MPJ play iso the rest of the way and let Giannis sit.
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Post#137 » by blazza18 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:30 am

If we can stay out of the half court we will win this one easily.
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Re: Game 55: Bucks at Wizards - 2/21/25 - 6:00 - FDSWI - Giannis In, Dame/Prince Out 

Post#138 » by Matches Malone » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:31 am

ReasonablySober wrote:What I wouldn't give to have Koehn and Marcus do the games regularly.


They should make the switch to Dave fulltime next year and start training another young former Buck to learn under Marquis. Always felt Michael Redd would be personable enough to do color commentary.
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Post#139 » by brewbucks » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:32 am

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Post#140 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:33 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:What I wouldn't give to have Koehn and Marcus do the games regularly.


They should make the switch to Dave fulltime next year and start training another young former Buck to learn under Marquis. Always felt Michael Redd would be personable enough to do color commentary.


Goddamn I knew I got Marques's name wrong as I was typing it. Long week.

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