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Post#81 » by jschligs » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:30 am

MVP2110 wrote:You guys are 4 pages in and only a glancing reference to Ryan Rollins. I know everyone is enamored with the new toys but Rollins was awesome tonight. 15/4/4 with 3 steals and was +12


Yea the flashes like this are great but he's had some dog water games too.
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Post#82 » by Packbuckman » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:56 am

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MVP2110 wrote:You guys are 4 pages in and only a glancing reference to Ryan Rollins. I know everyone is enamored with the new toys but Rollins was awesome tonight. 15/4/4 with 3 steals and was +12


Yea the flashes like this are great but he's had some dog water games too.

He is also young af playing for the first time this year how many starts does he have like 5 maybe. All bucks fans should be ecstatic with the bucks young talent. Keep playing the young kids get them ready for playoffs where we might need them.
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Post#83 » by Packbuckman » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:05 am

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And we would have given up way more, like always. We weren't getting an efficient 25 anyway, he would have looked like last night.

Lol Dame doesn’t play that bad of D come on man the reason we lose games we just miss shots we shouldn’t or we get out rebound with kuzma now that helps a lot on rebounding. Once we are healthy especially our two best players this team can compete against anyone.


We're almost 10 points per 100 worse defensively with Dame on the floor. That's a massive number, and more than he helps the offense.

Now, almost all of those numbers were compiled without us having KPJ as the alternative.

I get those numbers but not having dame on this team makes this team not a title contender with him makes us one because his gravity is undisputed just like Giannis now if those other players are not hitting open shots well that’s on them. Does he have **** games sure he does but he competes on D is not like his player blows by him and scores at will. Playoffs start we will need him even more especially n clutch situations!
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Re: PG Washington - Bucks Hang On For 3rd Straight Win 

Post#84 » by jschligs » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:17 am

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MVP2110 wrote:You guys are 4 pages in and only a glancing reference to Ryan Rollins. I know everyone is enamored with the new toys but Rollins was awesome tonight. 15/4/4 with 3 steals and was +12


Yea the flashes like this are great but he's had some dog water games too.

He is also young af playing for the first time this year how many starts does he have like 5 maybe. All bucks fans should be ecstatic with the bucks young talent. Keep playing the young kids get them ready for playoffs where we might need them.


Don't disagree at all. I'd sign him to the last roster spot in a minute given our cap situation. I'm just tempering my expectations after a good game. For better or worse.
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Post#85 » by RiotPunch » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:39 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

FANTASTIC against teams with no centers or an ability to exploit his weaknesses!

I do love him, but it's okay to call him what he is, which is a situational big man.
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Post#86 » by msiris » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:36 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

FANTASTIC against teams with no centers or an ability to exploit his weaknesses!

I do love him, but it's okay to call him what he is, which is a situational big man.
I think the additions have helped Brook alot. You don't have cover up with better defenders playing in front of you.
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Post#87 » by RiotPunch » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:50 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

FANTASTIC against teams with no centers or an ability to exploit his weaknesses!

I do love him, but it's okay to call him what he is, which is a situational big man.
I think the additions have helped Brook alot. You don't have cover up with better defenders playing in front of you.

Having mobility on the perimeter has definitely mitigated some of the detriments of Brook's drop coverage. There has been better collapsing to the paint and limiting free floaters where before guys like Harden, Trae, etc would relentlessly feast in the past. Still an issue, but not as glaring now.
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Post#88 » by Dick Tate » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:56 am

MVP2110 wrote:You guys are 4 pages in and only a glancing reference to Ryan Rollins. I know everyone is enamored with the new toys but Rollins was awesome tonight. 15/4/4 with 3 steals and was +12

You could take the avalanche of woulda lost with Dame posts and convert them to Rollins was good enough to win without Dame ;)
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Post#89 » by humanrefutation » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:19 am

Let KPJ run the offense more, especially when Dame isn't on the floor.
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Post#90 » by tedbrogen » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:31 am

Brook having even decent defenders in front him makes a world of difference.

Not sure how the Bucks scored triple digits with Giannis under 20 min with seven turnovers, no Dame, no Portis, AJG and Trent having a brick off contest, Kuz throwing up five or six hilariously bad hero ball shots, Simms not allowed to shoot, and no made FG in the last seven minutes.
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Post#91 » by -Jragon- » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:57 am

Nice to start off this weird b2b with 2 W's!
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Post#92 » by Prez » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:00 am

We have legit athleticism/defensive versatility now. Lowered our offensive ceiling but raised it on defense, and I'm good with it.

Just desperately need Dame/Giannis to stay healthy and Doc to stop **** trolling with the starting 5.
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Post#93 » by BucksFanSD » Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:09 am

Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.
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Post#94 » by Sigra » Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:58 am

Giannis just doesnt seem capable to sustain long regular season anymore and yet he wants to be aviable for regular season awards. Not a good combination and this is like 99% of my wories right now. I cant even think about Kuzma, Porter, Sims, or anything else because all of that is not important if Giannis......**** it, I admire all of you who are able to talk about other things :(
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Post#95 » by pifhluk23 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:50 am

Kuzmas Defense and Rebounding were not something I expected, I thought he was supposed to just be a chucker. Really impressed so far, yeah he's a little wild sometimes but that's fixable.

Seeing Khris in another jersey made me sad.
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Post#96 » by drone3 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:38 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:I'm not seeing a place for AJJ in the rotation


Has done himself no favours on either end. Doc is right to put him in the doghouse.
Ajax has become 3rd stringer for the 2 or 3. Would argue that Smitty should be given more opportunity with Bobby out and Sims in. Stretch 4 next to Sims looks right.
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Post#97 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:50 am

RiotPunch wrote:
msiris wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:FANTASTIC against teams with no centers or an ability to exploit his weaknesses!

I do love him, but it's okay to call him what he is, which is a situational big man.
I think the additions have helped Brook alot. You don't have cover up with better defenders playing in front of you.

Having mobility on the perimeter has definitely mitigated some of the detriments of Brook's drop coverage. There has been better collapsing to the paint and limiting free floaters where before guys like Harden, Trae, etc would relentlessly feast in the past. Still an issue, but not as glaring now.


Sure, but the defense has been better with Brook off the floor the last 2 games, and its been the same with Brook on or off all season. That's telling when the other center is Portis. Brook is a wall at the rim, but directly and indirectly gives up the 3, which is killer in today's game.

The exciting thing Brook is doing is hitting the 3. He's up to 38% on the season. This is his career high.
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Post#98 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:52 am

drone3 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:I'm not seeing a place for AJJ in the rotation


Has done himself no favours on either end. Doc is right to put him in the doghouse.
Ajax has become 3rd stringer for the 2 or 3. Would argue that Smitty should be given more opportunity with Bobby out and Sims in. Stretch 4 next to Sims looks right.


Tyler Smith would kill our defense. He's clueless right now. It's why he doesn't even get big minutes on the Herd.
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Post#99 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:02 pm

Packbuckman wrote:
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Packbuckman wrote:Lol Dame doesn’t play that bad of D come on man the reason we lose games we just miss shots we shouldn’t or we get out rebound with kuzma now that helps a lot on rebounding. Once we are healthy especially our two best players this team can compete against anyone.


We're almost 10 points per 100 worse defensively with Dame on the floor. That's a massive number, and more than he helps the offense.

Now, almost all of those numbers were compiled without us having KPJ as the alternative.

I get those numbers but not having dame on this team makes this team not a title contender with him makes us one because his gravity is undisputed just like Giannis now if those other players are not hitting open shots well that’s on them. Does he have **** games sure he does but he competes on D is not like his player blows by him and scores at will. Playoffs start we will need him even more especially n clutch situations!


Dame does not compete on D. He's completely absent as a help defender, and gives up a ton of offense rebounds. That's why we're the NBAs 27th ranked defense with him on the floor, and the 2nd ranked defense with him off.
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Post#100 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:06 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.

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