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Re: PG Washington - Bucks Hang On For 3rd Straight Win 

Post#101 » by Daver » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:40 pm

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Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.




Well hes engaged know hopefully he has grown up since 23 n got his sh.. on track.Im all for giving 2nd chances people deserve them.Hes vety talented brings alot to the table juat hope he stsys on the right side of the road.Could be a huge addition
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Post#102 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:07 pm

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I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.





Well hes engaged know hopefully he has grown up since 23 n got his sh.. on track.Im all for giving 2nd chances people deserve them.Hes vety talented brings alot to the table juat hope he stsys on the right side of the road.Could be a huge addition


Agree. The girl KPJ had the violent incident with has had so many off the court issues, often violent, that she's been shunned by the WNBA. Getting away from her was important for someone as volatile as KPJ. He still has a long road back to respectibility, but it's good he's finally on a better path.
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Post#103 » by chonestown » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:16 pm

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Post#104 » by midranger » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:40 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

There are guys like him available in the second round of every draft.
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Post#105 » by Mtsportsfan » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:44 pm

randy84 wrote:
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Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.

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I get it now, the association is just waiting for the playoffs to start and then hand down his suspension! It would be about right! Smaller sample is when they suspended Scott Williams because the really wanted Philly to play LA !
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Post#106 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:01 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

FANTASTIC against teams with no centers or an ability to exploit his weaknesses!

I do love him, but it's okay to call him what he is, which is a situational big man.


Absolutely. And I’ve never argued otherwise. But in the situations he fits, he can tilt the field in our direction. Having more of those players is the key to being a contender.
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Post#107 » by msiris » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:04 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Let KPJ run the offense more, especially when Dame isn't on the floor.
Does anyone think Green is better than KPJ? Not me.
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Post#108 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:08 pm

midranger wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Some of you need to atone for your Brook Lopez blasphemy over the past two years.

There are guys like him available in the second round of every draft.


I took so much **** from some on this board over Lopez after that draft. It’s amazing that he ended up a key member of a title winning Bucks team and starts season 18 next year.

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Post#109 » by pifhluk23 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:15 pm

randy84 wrote:
BucksFanSD wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.

Read on Twitter


Considering the woman said the DA was out to get KPJ and completely took her statements out of context AND that he didn't hit and strangle her. And the prosecution already struck a deal with KPJ. Just goes to show you Silvers NBA is completely inept and they will wait and see if he's playing well for us and suspend him for the playoffs.
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Post#110 » by BigO » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:23 pm

How did anyone not mention that yesterday was Nina Simone's birthday (my secret crush)?
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Post#111 » by Shaffty » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:43 pm

randy84 wrote:
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Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock.


The clippers also do not need his on ball juice, they have kawhi and norm and harden and then traded for Bogdon and signed Ben Simmons, they need a guy like taureen prince or aj green or marjon who just stand in the corner and hit 3s.

The Bucks however have tons of those guys who stand at the line and hit 3s but they do not really have anyone who can dribble the ball and get into the paint besides Giannis and Dame, this is why for us it seems like kpj is sucha god send, we are looking for the things he can do, the clippers were not.
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Post#112 » by midranger » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:44 pm

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Post#113 » by ReginaldDwight » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:52 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Daver wrote:
randy84 wrote:
The league still is investigating KPJ. Also, he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock. Add to that his baggage and it was clear they didn't feel he was worth it.





Well hes engaged know hopefully he has grown up since 23 n got his sh.. on track.Im all for giving 2nd chances people deserve them.Hes vety talented brings alot to the table juat hope he stsys on the right side of the road.Could be a huge addition


Agree. The girl KPJ had the violent incident with has had so many off the court issues, often violent, that she's been shunned by the WNBA. Getting away from her was important for someone as volatile as KPJ. He still has a long road back to respectibility, but it's good he's finally on a better path.

Source? Im pretty sure shes not in the WNBA because shes a 5'9 guard who can't shoot and can't play PG.
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Post#114 » by fan230 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:02 pm

[quote="tedbrogen"]Brook having even decent defenders in front him makes a world of difference.

I am guessing that this is one reason why Jrue being there was extremely helpful and allowed Brook to flourish.

The remaining challenge will be against teams which play five out with all five players on the offense near the 3 point line. I think kpj has to play more minutes than he would otherwise play in relief of Dame (that obviously is a problem for our offense). Kuz is better than today’s Khris on defense, so that will help. Sims may have to be playing lots of minutes too.

So our 4 offensive players would be Brook ( he should be very valuable), Giannis, Kuz, Dame/Kpj, plus Sims for defense. Substitutes are Green, Trent

The last roster spot remains uncertain: Rollins/Tucker/a mobile big man who can also score.
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Post#115 » by soxperry » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:10 pm

Shaffty wrote:
randy84 wrote:
BucksFanSD wrote:
I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


he was very inefficient with the Clippers. He shot 42%/24%/64% and like to pound the rock.


The clippers also do not need his on ball juice, they have kawhi and norm and harden and then traded for Bogdon and signed Ben Simmons, they need a guy like taureen prince or aj green or marjon who just stand in the corner and hit 3s.

The Bucks however have tons of those guys who stand at the line and hit 3s but they do not really have anyone who can dribble the ball and get into the paint besides Giannis and Dame, this is why for us it seems like kpj is sucha god send, we are looking for the things he can do, the clippers were not.


yeah, it makes perfect sense why they would want to trade him. but the value received is still kind of baffling to me. maybe Marjon has more value than we assume. that, or there just weren't many teams who wanted to gamble with their team culture to get a guy who was having a really bad year from an efficiency standpoint. it's a very small sample, but he's been pretty damn efficient with us. for the most part, he's played within himself.

he just needs to get his confidence back from 3. if we can get him to re sign and get him working with coaches on a clearly defined role, the sky is really the limit for him. however small the chance is, there is a chance that he becomes a very good player for us long term. that's not nothing.

and by the way... to no one in particular: if you are someone who was upset about AJ Johnson getting traded, just pretend we got Porter back in that deal.
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Post#116 » by tedbrogen » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:39 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:Was KPJ so bad on the Clippers that they traded him for less than a ham sandwich?


I asked shortly after we got KPJ why his price was so low and no one seemed to know. I think the Clippers did him a solid since they preferred bench ball handling from newly acquired Ben Simmons (who has a home in LA) and Bogdan and Porter had other interest last summer in free agency before he chose LAC. There is an outside shot the league is still investigting him that we don't know about, similar to how we fans didn't know we were going to need depth (Kuzma) with an upcoming Bobby suspension. But yeah, his price was much lower than expected and was an immediate win when the trade was made.


It appears they were doing him a solid because he was about to lose all his minutes. Better for the team next time they try to sign a min salary guy like him if they don’t obliterate his value league wide by burying him on the bench.

He’s also much better on ball than off ball. Which doesn’t work great when the Clippers need to feed Kawhi touches hoping his gets back to his old self, Harden demands touches, and now Simmons off the bench only has value on offense if he has the ball since he is one of the biggest offball offensive liabilities in the league. Bucks can just let KPJ be the lead ballhandler when Giannis and Dame are sitting. He’s easily the third best player on the team at creating his own shot.
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Post#117 » by LUKE23 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:40 pm

KPJ 19/6/6/3 per 36, .623 TS.
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Post#118 » by tedbrogen » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:43 pm

For anyone who thinks otherwise, Marjon had no value except that he was an expiring contract.
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Post#119 » by tedbrogen » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:45 pm

fan230 wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:Brook having even decent defenders in front him makes a world of difference.

I am guessing that this is one reason why Jrue being there was extremely helpful and allowed Brook to flourish.

The remaining challenge will be against teams which play five out with all five players on the offense near the 3 point line. I think kpj has to play more minutes than he would otherwise play in relief of Dame (that obviously is a problem for our offense). Kuz is better than today’s Khris on defense, so that will help. Sims may have to be playing lots of minutes too.

So our 4 offensive players would be Brook ( he should be very valuable), Giannis, Kuz, Dame/Kpj, plus Sims for defense. Substitutes are Green, Trent

The last roster spot remains uncertain: Rollins/Tucker/a mobile big man who can also score.


Dame/AJG/Kuz/Prince/Giannis would be the lineup against five out teams in my opinion. Do late game subbing of KPJ in for Dame when you NEED a stop.
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Post#120 » by LUKE23 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:48 pm

I view Rollins as a good POA defender of PG as well. I gotta think they turn him into a real contract.

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