Official Blue Jays 2025 Spring Training Thread

polo007 · Post #201 » by **polo007** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:45 am

Kingsway_fan · Post #202 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:20 am

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Ouch!!! How this incompetent management hasn't traded for assets while they can is mind boggling ... personally, I think Vlad is massively overrated and best to cash in now.

C Court · Post #203 » by **C Court** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:10 pm

The Jays have lost any leverage they had on the Vladdy trade market. Heading into free agency, they’re going to get a lot less in a trade than if they’d been proactive. Total fumble by the front office.

Post #204 » by **Harry Palmer** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:18 pm

As seems to be the fate of Toronto teams, the Jays are now another Frankenstein roster of win now and can’t win now. I don’t know if Vlad is worth anything like he’s asking…or more accurately I’m sure he’s not as of now, but when was the last young franchise player who signed for what everyone considered a reasonable amount at the time? It’s always a rapidly changing market, and the number of young franchise players the Jays have ever signed away from another team remains at zero, so not sure what we’re saving up for. Certainly none of our current prospects appear ready to strain our budget.

But especially if they knew they did not intend to really be in on Guerrero, I don’t understand the win-now moves that have characterized this off-season. Tbh I don’t understand them all that much more with Vlad, but if he has one of his better seasons I can at least see the thinking. But we’re left with another Toronto team detailing a car without an engine.

Randle McMurphy · Post #205 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:47 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:As seems to be the fate of Toronto teams, the Jays are now another Frankenstein roster of win now and can’t win now. I don’t know if Vlad is worth anything like he’s asking…or more accurately I’m sure he’s not as of now, but when was the last young franchise player who signed for what everyone considered a reasonable amount at the time? It’s always a rapidly changing market, and the number of young franchise players the Jays have ever signed away from another team remains at zero, so not sure what we’re saving up for. Certainly none of our current prospects appear ready to strain our budget.

But especially if they knew they did not intend to really be in on Guerrero, I don’t understand the win-now moves that have characterized this off-season. Tbh I don’t understand them all that much more with Vlad, but if he has one of his better seasons I can at least see the thinking. But we’re left with another Toronto team detailing a car without an engine.

I think the Jays expected a top 30ish player in baseball asking for the 3rd highest contract in baseball history to eventually drop his demands to something even remotely reasonable.

That may still happen but it may take coming to that realization during free agency.

Randle McMurphy · Post #206 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:48 pm

C Court wrote:The Jays have lost any leverage they had on the Vladdy trade market. Heading into free agency, they’re going to get a lot less in a trade than if they’d been proactive. Total fumble by the front office.

Should have traded him at the deadline last year but this FO wanted to take a shot at winning this year to keep their jobs.

Raptors Realtor · Post #207 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:09 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:As seems to be the fate of Toronto teams, the Jays are now another Frankenstein roster of win now and can’t win now. I don’t know if Vlad is worth anything like he’s asking…or more accurately I’m sure he’s not as of now, but when was the last young franchise player who signed for what everyone considered a reasonable amount at the time? It’s always a rapidly changing market, and the number of young franchise players the Jays have ever signed away from another team remains at zero, so not sure what we’re saving up for. Certainly none of our current prospects appear ready to strain our budget.

But especially if they knew they did not intend to really be in on Guerrero, I don’t understand the win-now moves that have characterized this off-season. Tbh I don’t understand them all that much more with Vlad, but if he has one of his better seasons I can at least see the thinking. But we’re left with another Toronto team detailing a car without an engine.

Agreed, just goes to show that this front office has never had a clear vision of how to build not only a winner, but a sustainable winner... They lack the foresight and ability to be proactive.

ItsDanger · Post #208 » by **ItsDanger** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:21 pm

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Post #209 » by **Duffman100** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:42 pm

Would be huge if we actually had a homegrown talent come through the system and become something special.

bluerap23 · Post #210 » by **bluerap23** » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:29 pm

Rainman66 wrote:what would most ppl say is the general consensus that Vladdy has overplayed his hand in terms of value for 2026 and will have to settle for the 380-400~ mill deal bluejays are offering? is it like a 80-20% chance that vladdy has overplayed his value? or more definetively (100%)that Vladdy will receive offers of 550+ no matter how much value in 2025 he produces. thanks

Best case scenario - he gets the high offer in off-season and gives us an opportunity to match. Will probably be close to 500.

Randle McMurphy · Post #211 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:57 am

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Madvillainy2004 · Post #212 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:28 am

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This guy appears to actively be trying to get traded at this point.

Trade him man this is already ridiculous lmao

Fairview4Life · Post #213 » by **Fairview4Life** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:00 am

So who do we want from the Dodgers?

polo007 · Post #214 » by **polo007** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:50 am

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polo007 · Post #217 » by **polo007** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:57 pm

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How To Watch Garrett Crochet's Red Sox Spring Training Debut Free On Amazon, Roku - MLB.com

Sunday marks an important day for the Red Sox, and you can follow along in a variety of ways thanks to NESN networks.

Garrett Crochet is set to make his spring training debut for Boston in its spring training matchup with the Toronto Blue Jays in Fort Myers, Fla. Crochet was acquired by the Red Sox in a blockbuster trade with the Chicago White Sox in December, and the 24-year-old is poised to be Boston’s ace for the 2025 season.

Crochet’s first outing with the Red Sox can be watched on various platforms, including NESN 360 as well as three over-the-air partners: WHDH, WWAX and WYCI. You also can access the exhibition contest on NESN Nation, NESN’s new FAST channel, which can be found on the following:

Prime Video

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/livetv

The Roku Channel

https://therokuchannel.roku.com/details/1d720f86119e6cb8d2a8eae051242554/nesn-nation

Plex

https://watch.plex.tv/live-tv/channel/nesn-nation

The Red Sox-Blue Jays clash has first pitch scheduled for 1 p.m. ET.

ItsDanger · Post #218 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:24 pm

Roden might be legit. Left handed bat getting a hit off one of the toughest lefties in the game is impressive. 2 for 2 today, both doubles.

polo007 · Post #219 » by **polo007** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:36 pm

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COY0607 · Post #220 » by **COY0607** » Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:06 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
Rainman66 wrote:what would most ppl say is the general consensus that Vladdy has overplayed his hand in terms of value for 2026 and will have to settle for the 380-400~ mill deal bluejays are offering? is it like a 80-20% chance that vladdy has overplayed his value? or more definetively (100%)that Vladdy will receive offers of 550+ no matter how much value in 2025 he produces. thanks

Best case scenario - he gets the high offer in off-season and gives us an opportunity to match. Will probably be close to 500.

Completely depends on the type of season he has.

Similar to 2024 (~950 OPS) $500m+ is definitely on, and likely

Similar to 2022/2023 (~800 OPS) even $400m is a stretch at 1st base