Time to package Sharpe?

[Sinobas]

I don't believe Sharpe will ever become a star. He can be a fun player to watch, but too many guys have his skillset. Just a guy who will occasionally score in bunches at below average efficiency. But his age and "potential" give him quite a bit of trade value.

Next year is the last year of his contract, and I'm afraid the Blazers are going to give him some stupid contract we end up regretting.

We could package him this year, with whatever pick we get to move up in the draft. Would Sharpe and #8 be enough to move into the top 4? I'd give it a try...

[Butter]

I've been saying the same thing in several threads.

There is a lot of chatter expressing concerns about Ace Bailey. Is it possible the #3 team would rather plug in Shaedon and the #8 to diversify the risk?

The problem is exactly what you said, the other team will be facing a decision on an extension also.

The big X factor is the Jermaine O'Neal effect. Does Sharp go to another team, get full time minutes, and morph into Kobe?

[Pattycakes]

I don't believe Sharpe will ever become a star. He can be a fun player to watch, but too many guys have his skillset. Just a guy who will occasionally score in bunches at below average efficiency. But his age and "potential" give him quite a bit of trade value.

Next year is the last year of his contract, and I'm afraid the Blazers are going to give him some stupid contract we end up regretting.

We could package him this year, with whatever pick we get to move up in the draft. Would Sharpe and #8 be enough to move into the top 4? I'd give it a try...

He’s been having a solid season even being the backup to a horrendously overpaid/underperforming vet. I’m not worried

[BlazersBroncos]

I don't believe Sharpe will ever become a star. He can be a fun player to watch, but too many guys have his skillset. Just a guy who will occasionally score in bunches at below average efficiency. But his age and "potential" give him quite a bit of trade value.

Next year is the last year of his contract, and I'm afraid the Blazers are going to give him some stupid contract we end up regretting.

We could package him this year, with whatever pick we get to move up in the draft. Would Sharpe and #8 be enough to move into the top 4? I'd give it a try...

He’s been having a solid season even being the backup to a horrendously overpaid/underperforming vet. I’m not worried

By all advanced metrics he has improved at nothing since his rookie year. His raw stats are decent but also come with poor efficiency, and with correspondingly poor advanced stats. I would argue that nearly any middling guard could put up similar stats if given the usage he is allowed. His defensive metrics are in the bottom 5% of guards. He regularly disappears for long stretches and has shown the hunger and hustle of a man coming off a 4 hour sit down at a Boston Market buffet.

I would trade him for a few future FRP if it means we can avoid paying him the inevitable 28M (or so) AV extension he will command. If we could get a pick in the 10-12 range for him this draft, I would do it.

[zzaj]

I don’t see why not…he’s really done nothing in his time as an NBA player to prove he’s starting level.

He’s basically Delano Banton, but younger.

[HoopsFanAZ]

A quiet Uber athlete with eyes on him — and he sits out his one college season. Flashes possibilities in Dame’s final Blazer season. Instability on the team and with management. Slam dunk comp. Injury last year. He becomes more verbal but still careful.

His 3’s look comfortable and easy. His midrange comfortable. And he’s finding his game in a situation without a strong, ready PG to lead. Billups getting the attention of Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe about D — the absolute BEST thing Billups has done! Scoot has changed. Sharpe has gotten the message with playing time not a given.

This may be frustrating as heck but I see a VERY different still-young-player than 2 years ago. If he really wanted to compete in the slam dunk competition, I’d be skeptical of what he CAN become as he is not just an athlete with highlight film. I am not wary of him getting $28-32M on a long-term deal that has not yet been earned. He will get a bag compared to his #7 pick bag, but as long as it is more like team option 5th at $20M per or 3 years $23M, that’s the market for what he has shown at his age. The young fella has shown he wants to work and get better. So, I’ll stay on the other wagon but not at ANY cost.

Clingan, Avdija, Camara, Sharpe, Scoot and a lottery pick to build the team with bench size

Ayton, Grant, Thybulle, Simons to TRADE for timeline, role, and salary fit

Sharpe and an unlucky lower lottery pick for a DUDE that Schmitz thinks/feels he MUST draft? I CAN BE persuaded depending on the dude.

[Sinobas]

I don’t see why not…he’s really done nothing in his time as an NBA player to prove he’s starting level.

He’s basically Delano Banton, but younger.

Exactly. Banton gives about the same low efficiency output, but will occasionally go off.

[PDXKnight]

Depends on the package but if we had the option of doing sharpe + 8 for a top 4 pick in this draft (i know it won't be number 1 but 2-4) I'd definitely have explore that option. Just makes too much sense from a cap perspective. I don't think that offer will come unfortunately because of the extension being due.

I will say with Sharpe we should wait for rfa rathen than extend. I'd much rather have an offer sheet before we blindly offer him a boatload in an extension. But I'm skeptical we don't just offer him 4/150 mil this summer

That said in the big picture I wish we could have cap flexibility to take on large contracts for assets. That's a proven method to accumulate picks as a small market as even if you're playing 3rd man facilitating a trade it's a great position to have that cap space that teams will literally have a bidding war over when they're trying to add an all star at the deadline or in the off season. In that sense Jerami Grant was a huge misstep. Resigning ayton and simons likewise would be a huge misstep but I haven't seen anything leading me to believe we will act correctly and preserve cap flexibilty. Even if we let those guys walk we will find another way to blow it. Evan turner, Roy hibbert, hedo turkolu, and many other idiotic offers were made, I'm not sure why we can't just stop offering blank checks after we strike out on big names. Any time we have money to burn we would rather overpay a free agent or burn up a boatload and overpay to retain what we have before we consider what is often the most valuable asset in being able to send out TPE's

[Tim Lehrbach]

Trade him before it's too late. I don't think he moves Portland into the top 4 coupled with a pick at 10 or so, but he might return a middling first or a lightly protected future pick on his own.

[oldfishermen]

Trade him. But, what trade makes sense for both teams?

I'm tempted to take the contrarian shotgun approach. Trade Sharpe for several srps. Say Washingtons pick #31 in this draft, and their 2026 srp.

We get two shots at finding hidden gems, but on cheap contracts.

[Tim Lehrbach]

Trade him. But, what trade makes sense for both teams?

I'm tempted to take the contarian shotgun approach. Trade Sharpe for several srps. Say Washingtons pick #31 in this draft, and their 2026 srp.

We get two shots at finding hidden gems, but on cheap contracts.

I'm not sure he can pull it, but given he still has upside and is under team control, I'd hope he returns a solid first.

[dckingsfan]

Trade him. But, what trade makes sense for both teams?

I'm tempted to take the contarian shotgun approach. Trade Sharpe for several srps. Say Washingtons pick #31 in this draft, and their 2026 srp.

We get two shots at finding hidden gems, but on cheap contracts.

I'm not sure he can pull it, but given he still has upside and is under team control, I'd hope he returns a solid first.

I say there is zero chance of a trade with the Wizards. None if it involves any assets.

And yes, I would take a couple of SRPs if it meant we didn't have to take back a worse contract.

[DusterBuster]

A couple of seconds for Sharpe... jfc people...

[Tim Lehrbach]

A couple of seconds for Sharpe... jfc people...

Usually I'm just about the lowest on our guys, but in this case I'm closer to you. Sharpe would represent a poor return on a high lottery pick, but he'd be a decent outcome for a pick in the late teens or so, and as I said, he's still got team control and some upside. I could see a GM preferring a roll of the dice on Sharpe to what's on his draft board. We have no way of knowing whether that's true or who that GM might be, so it's pointless to speculate on what pick Portland could land, but it seems plausible. Portland likely only moves him if the inverse is true -- there's a specific target in the draft or on another team's roster they like better than Shaedon -- or they want to obtain a future lottery ticket.

I mean, FWIW, I don't believe in him and imagine that whatever we would actually get back would underwhelm his supporters. I also think his next employer will be as disappointed as we are. Just the same, I do think somebody out there could be intrigued enough to cough up a decent pick to get him.

[DusterBuster]

A couple of seconds for Sharpe... jfc people...

Usually I'm just about the lowest on our guys, but in this case I'm closer to you. Sharpe would represent a poor return on a high lottery pick, but he'd be a decent outcome for a pick in the late teens or so, and as I said, he's still got team control and some upside. I could see a GM preferring a roll of the dice on Sharpe to what's on his draft board. We have no way of knowing whether that's true or who that GM might be, so it's pointless to speculate on what pick Portland could land, but it seems plausible. Portland likely only moves him if the inverse is true -- there's a specific target in the draft or on another team's roster they like better than Shaedon -- or they want to obtain a future lottery ticket.

I mean, FWIW, I don't believe in him and imagine that whatever we would actually get back would underwhelm his supporters. I also think his next employer will be as disappointed as we are. Just the same, I do think somebody out there could be intrigued enough to cough up a decent pick to get him.

Yeah, I just think it’s silly to essentially throw away a 17ppg scorer in his third year. I understand the hesitation to pay, which is why I would stick the route of only resigning him in RFA if he gets an offer, or seriously consider moving him in a package deal as incentive filler if possible.

To me, just losing him for nothing is the equivalent of 3 second rounders. Second rounders are essentially in most scenarios nothing.

[PDXKnight]

A couple of seconds for Sharpe... jfc people...

Usually I'm just about the lowest on our guys, but in this case I'm closer to you. Sharpe would represent a poor return on a high lottery pick, but he'd be a decent outcome for a pick in the late teens or so, and as I said, he's still got team control and some upside. I could see a GM preferring a roll of the dice on Sharpe to what's on his draft board. We have no way of knowing whether that's true or who that GM might be, so it's pointless to speculate on what pick Portland could land, but it seems plausible. Portland likely only moves him if the inverse is true -- there's a specific target in the draft or on another team's roster they like better than Shaedon -- or they want to obtain a future lottery ticket.

I mean, FWIW, I don't believe in him and imagine that whatever we would actually get back would underwhelm his supporters. I also think his next employer will be as disappointed as we are. Just the same, I do think somebody out there could be intrigued enough to cough up a decent pick to get him.

Yeah, I just think it’s silly to essentially throw away a 17ppg scorer in his third year. I understand the hesitation to pay, which is why I would stick the route of only resigning him in RFA if he gets an offer, or seriously consider moving him in a package deal as incentive filler if possible.

To me, just losing him for nothing is the equivalent of 3 second rounders. Second rounders are essentially in most scenarios nothing.

Yeah 3 srp's is number factor 6. If we offered up Sharpe for a late lotto pick I'm pretty sure there's a team chomping at the bit

[Case2012]

If you can Turn Sharpe into Ace Bailey or Derek Harper you do it. I might even do it for Edgecomb or Tre Johnson. To me, i would much rather have players with high motors than guys with natural talent and no will to utilize it to it's potential. That's why i keep saying, give Camara the keys, he's got the motor to develop into a number 1 or 2 option.

[Butter]

If the ceiling for Shaedon is 2nd round picks, it is an epic fail for this team. I know fans keep citing his advanced metrics and stating he has not improved, but he dropped 20 point, in 21 mins last night, on 8-12 from thr floor, and 4-7 from 3.

,If his stand alone value is really that low, I'd rather package him up and make a move for a true star potential. This team doesn't need more back end lottery role players

[Tim Lehrbach]

,If his stand alone value is really that low, I'd rather package him up and make a move for a true star potential. This team doesn't need more back end lottery role players

Of course you move him in a package for a real blue chipper, but I don't think he moves the needle in a trade for "true star potential." He's certainly not returning Flagg, Harper, or Bailey, no matter what we package him with. A "back end lottery" pick represents a new gamble on a prospect. Will that guy end up better than Shaedon? Probably not. But I'd take the risk. I just don't think Shaedon is going to work out.

[oldfishermen]

A couple of seconds for Sharpe... jfc people...

Yeah, I just think it’s silly to essentially throw away a 17ppg scorer in his third year. I understand the hesitation to pay, which is why I would stick the route of only resigning him in RFA if he gets an offer, or seriously consider moving him in a package deal as incentive filler if possible.

To me, just losing him for nothing is the equivalent of 3 second rounders. Second rounders are essentially in most scenarios nothing.

The only part of this is I agree with is, if the right package deal to move up develops. Odds of this happening are 0%, for multiple reasons due to the impact on trades by the new CBA rules.

There are players available in the second round of many drafts, including this one, that could produce Sharpes stats, given the same minutes. Pick #52 Camara says hello, and at a salary cap hit much less than Sharpe.

Due to several changes in the CBA trade rules. Taking on bad contracts is much harder to swallow. Combined with the new restrictions on trading cash and future picks. All combine to raise the value of trading both first AND second round picks..

Take a look at this seasons trades to see the affect the new CBA has made. There were very few first round picks in trades, and many of them were swaps. However, there were a ton of second round picks traded.

Second roubd picks are now more valuable than ever.

BTW, matching a rfa offer for Sharpe would tie up too much valuable cap space, and worse than letting him walk for nothing. Take the seconds, it will be the Blazers best option.

Pardon mistakes , not seeing well this morning.