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Post#1721 » by Bernman » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:43 pm

JayMKE wrote:Team isn’t good enough to worry about match ups


Then they're not good enough to not worry about match-ups.
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Post#1722 » by BigO » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:10 pm

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JayMKE wrote:Team isn’t good enough to worry about match ups


Then they're not good enough to not worry about match-ups.


Seems you both agree they won't win a championship.
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Post#1723 » by emunney » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:13 pm

If last year's Mavs can make the Finals, we can win them. Just need a ton of breaks.
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Post#1724 » by Packbuckman » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:03 am

Just get the 4 seed and home court in 1st rd and be healthy that means Giannis this team can beat anyone there is no team that’s unbeatable. With our shooting and now improved athleticism and D we will be a tough matchup with Giannis leading the way.
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Post#1725 » by rilamann » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:04 am

pifhluk23 wrote:We aren't catching NY, we have one of the toughest schedules the rest of the way and Thibs plays his guys big minutes. Would take probably 3 big injuries for us to catch them or both Brunson and KAT.

We matchup with Boston much better than the Cavs imo. Idk if Brook can play a single minute against Cleveland. But we won't have a choice #4 is best we can do.


The Celtics are more legit than the Cavs as a contender, but I agree that we actually match-up better with the Celtics than we do vs the Cavs.

And now with the additions of Kuzma and KPJ, we match-up even better against Boston after the deadline. Sucks we don't play Boston again in the regular season.

I think Boston wins the east, but if I was Boston I would be really nervous about the possibility of playing Milwaukee in a best of 7 series.

All of this assuming Giannis is healthy of course.
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Post#1726 » by -Jragon- » Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:46 am

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Bobby opting in is the best case scenario for us.

This is what I was alluding to in the wake of his suspension, on how it might affect his market. Desirable skill-set for some teams, but a propensity for getting ejected/suspended. Fair or not, it's his reputation at this point.

If he opts in he is movable salary right away, which would be huge.


I get this is probably a dead money thing like Km walking... but like KM, as long as he suits up Doc will keep playing him at terrible times with other slow people (Brook).. we can't risk having a non - doc proof roster... f the dead money, extend kpj and Sims
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Post#1727 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:00 am

Let’s be real, even with the suspension, Bobby is opting out and getting at least the full MLE from someone. He can start for a lot of the teams in the league and is likely done taking discounts for the Bucks after they told his agent to seek teams willing to trade for him.

Bucks will only get value from him if a team without cap space REALLY wants him, he wants to go there, and a sign and trade can be agreed to. The return won’t be amazing (salary filler plus either an intriguing young player who hasn’t produced or a pick).
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Post#1728 » by drone3 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:06 am

Signing KPJ to a longer deal feels more important than signing Bobbby. KPJ is still somehow 24 and looks like he could run the team if Dame goes down
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Post#1729 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:30 am

Yeah how does the ‘Bartelstein was shopping around for Bobby trades’ report fit after the suspension?

Gery is Gery but he wrote this right after being in the know on Kuzma weeks beforehand:

In addition to being properly compensated, there have been whispers Portis is seeking a long-term deal. Sources also added the Bucks had given Mark Bartelstein, Portis’ power agent, permission to contact other teams about a trade.


https://woelfelspressbox.com/2025/02/bucks-rejected-mavs-overtures-for-antetokounmpo/
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Post#1730 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:01 pm

drone3 wrote:Signing KPJ to a longer deal feels more important than signing Bobbby. KPJ is still somehow 24 and looks like he could run the team if Dame goes down


The real question is can KPJ be the PG when Dame gets dealt?
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Post#1731 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:41 pm

Jimmy Haslem in ownership, KPJ’s time in Greece, and the fact the Bucks almost got him before LAC in the offseason makes me think we’ll be on the inside track to keep him if we want to.

Hard to see Porter playing so well over the next few months that he’d earn a long term deal bigger than the MLE (and if he does hopefully he’s balling out on a deep playoff run) considering his baggage.

Either way a shorter term contract where the Bucks get his bird rights and a longer look while KPJ gets a stable situation to rehabilitate his development trajectory and reputation could be the move for all involved.
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Post#1732 » by BigO » Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:00 pm

I would temper the long term love here for KPJ, Rollins and the other young guys. No analysis should be based on short term performance.

KPJ in particular seems to have an old man's game, meaning he loves the inefficient twos and not very good at the threes. Even in his best year he was inefficient.

If he was a guy who shows he can excel at defense, then maybe there's a place for him.

I don't like adding inefficient players who shoot at high volumes. Kuzma is another guy like that. Posters now think he is an elite defender. Let's give this some time before we make a determination.
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Post#1733 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:30 pm

Kuz has played elite defense since getting to the Bucks and played near that level during the Lakers Disney title run. Certainly small sample sizes when compared to what he did with the Wiz, but thus far it appears he’s definitely a guy who is more motivated when his team isn’t complete garbage. He also has all the physical tools to be an elite defender.
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Post#1734 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:32 pm

raferfenix wrote:Yeah how does the ‘Bartelstein was shopping around for Bobby trades’ report fit after the suspension?

Gery is Gery but he wrote this right after being in the know on Kuzma weeks beforehand:

In addition to being properly compensated, there have been whispers Portis is seeking a long-term deal. Sources also added the Bucks had given Mark Bartelstein, Portis’ power agent, permission to contact other teams about a trade.


https://woelfelspressbox.com/2025/02/bucks-rejected-mavs-overtures-for-antetokounmpo/


Bucks maybe thinking a team that wanted to extend Bobby now before the offseason would take him even with the suspension hanging over his head? Get approximately the same return as they would in a S&T but get it sooner?
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Post#1735 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:59 pm

BigO wrote:I would temper the long term love here for KPJ, Rollins and the other young guys. No analysis should be based on short term performance.

KPJ in particular seems to have an old man's game, meaning he loves the inefficient twos and not very good at the threes. Even in his best year he was inefficient..


KPJ is all about his personal life. Has he matured and can he fit into a team concept. He’s sort of a lesser version of Boogie Cousins in that respect.

I don’t mind the two pointers. We’ve needed a guard who can quickly get into the lane and cause havoc with the floaters. Dame doesn’t do that consistently enough at this point in his career.

I’m also interested as seeing how KPJ does with ball handling under pressure. Another weakness we’ve had.
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Post#1736 » by Bernman » Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:26 pm

There's an ongoing investigation of KPJ, so the rug could be pulled from under us. That's another reason we got such an imbalanced deal from a talent for talent standpoint. The narrative could shift in the other direction quick if it's a Bobby situation.
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Post#1737 » by soxperry » Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:59 pm

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drone3 wrote:Signing KPJ to a longer deal feels more important than signing Bobbby. KPJ is still somehow 24 and looks like he could run the team if Dame goes down


The real question is can KPJ be the PG when Dame gets dealt?


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Post#1738 » by emunney » Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:15 pm

Bernman wrote:There's an ongoing investigation of KPJ, so the rug could be pulled from under us. That's another reason we got such an imbalanced deal from a talent for talent standpoint. The narrative could shift in the other direction quick if it's a Bobby situation.


It can only shift so far given what we gave up, fortunately.
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Post#1739 » by theFireBlanket » Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:19 pm

emunney wrote:If last year's Mavs can make the Finals, we can win them. Just need a ton of breaks.


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Post#1740 » by -Jragon- » Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 pm

BigO wrote:I would temper the long term love here for KPJ, Rollins and the other young guys. No analysis should be based on short term performance.

KPJ in particular seems to have an old man's game, meaning he loves the inefficient twos and not very good at the threes. Even in his best year he was inefficient.

If he was a guy who shows he can excel at defense, then maybe there's a place for him.

I don't like adding inefficient players who shoot at high volumes. Kuzma is another guy like that. Posters now think he is an elite defender. Let's give this some time before we make a determination.


We missed on so many picks that when guys MUCH better than all of them (like Rollins and KPJ) fall into our laps because of personal problems it's very tempting to lock them in. Our leaders are role model types so this might be the best place to keep cats that this out of trouble and focused on ball.
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