PG: Raps almost lose the plot vs Heat

[pingpongrac]

Complaining about us “not tanking” because our starters — who were an average age of 24 with the second oldest being a two-way/G-League player — played 30-38 minutes in an OT loss is peak Raptors RealGM. We also played three rookies and Agbaji ~18 minutes each while the only player over 25 that saw any minutes was Boucher — who played the least of anyone on the team.

The majority of guys that are active are on their rookie contracts (JKW, Mogbo, Shead, Battle, Gradey, Agbaji and Scottie) and/or young-ish players without much opportunity elsewhere (Robinson and Lawson) while our active “vets” are mostly still young (IQ is 25 and RJ is 24). Of our 5 oldest players (Poeltl, Ingram, Boucher, Temple and Tucker), we will likely only see meaningful minutes from Poeltl and Boucher here and there with the possibility of Ingram suiting up for 10-15 games down the stretch to see how the fit looks with the other starters. Like what more do people want? Do they expect us to sit out/shut down even more starters so we can play a 7-man rotation of nothing but rookies and sophomores for the last 25 games?

If we win, its complaining that we aren't tanking.

If we lose by a close margin, its complaining that we're too close to winning.

If we lose by a large margin, its complaining that the team is devoid of talent.

It's just complaining.

If we had several high end lottery talents that were picked by our own front office I could see that being different. But the unfortunate case is that we have players that other teams didn't want (RJ, Agbaji, Ingram, etc). There's a chance their drafters made a mistake but in the NBA, with the amount of scouting and analytics we have, it's unlikely.

The unfortunate facts are that RJ, Ingram, and IQ are some of the worst defenders in the league. 2 of these players also seem to had seasons with a lot of time off due to injuries.

At 24 years old if you have never had an all star calling prior there is an overwhelming chance you will never become a all star. We're betting against heavy odds that RJ or IQ emerge as all star players.

That is being disingenuous of the situations that RJ and IQ were in before, though, as well as the opportunities they have now. IQ was playing behind an all-star caliber PG in Brunson (who is now a bonafide star at this point in his career) while RJ was the 3rd fiddle on a team that didn't let him play to his strengths at all. Now they both have a lot more freedom and, in RJ's case especially, they're showing that they're capable of more. Over 75 games with us so far, RJ is averaging 21.8 PTS/6.4 REB/4.9 AST on 58 TS%. If he keeps up those kind of numbers next season while we're near (or even above) .500, he's probably in the mix for being an all star. We haven't even seen Quickley at his best yet and he's still putting up solid numbers as well (20/5/7 per36 on 57 TS%).

[GLF]

Complaining about us “not tanking” because our starters — who were an average age of 24 with the second oldest being a two-way/G-League player — played 30-38 minutes in an OT loss is peak Raptors RealGM. We also played three rookies and Agbaji ~18 minutes each while the only player over 25 that saw any minutes was Boucher — who played the least of anyone on the team.

The majority of guys that are active are on their rookie contracts (JKW, Mogbo, Shead, Battle, Gradey, Agbaji and Scottie) and/or young-ish players without much opportunity elsewhere (Robinson and Lawson) while our active “vets” are mostly still young (IQ is 25 and RJ is 24). Of our 5 oldest players (Poeltl, Ingram, Boucher, Temple and Tucker), we will likely only see meaningful minutes from Poeltl and Boucher here and there with the possibility of Ingram suiting up for 10-15 games down the stretch to see how the fit looks with the other starters. Like what more do people want? Do they expect us to sit out/shut down even more starters so we can play a 7-man rotation of nothing but rookies and sophomores for the last 25 games?

If we win, its complaining that we aren't tanking.

If we lose by a close margin, its complaining that we're too close to winning.

If we lose by a large margin, its complaining that the team is devoid of talent.

It's just complaining and I'm over it. You can be critical of this FO without habitual negativity about every subject

Yup! It’s so tired. ALL they do is complain; it’s not even an exaggeration anymore. It’s getting to a point where I may just have to stay away from this board altogether because putting these people on ignore does nothing. Someone always has to reply to them and then I see their posts anyway.

[ill-Will03]

Complaining about us “not tanking” because our starters — who were an average age of 24 with the second oldest being a two-way/G-League player — played 30-38 minutes in an OT loss is peak Raptors RealGM. We also played three rookies and Agbaji ~18 minutes each while the only player over 25 that saw any minutes was Boucher — who played the least of anyone on the team.

The majority of guys that are active are on their rookie contracts (JKW, Mogbo, Shead, Battle, Gradey, Agbaji and Scottie) and/or young-ish players without much opportunity elsewhere (Robinson and Lawson) while our active “vets” are mostly still young (IQ is 25 and RJ is 24). Of our 5 oldest players (Poeltl, Ingram, Boucher, Temple and Tucker), we will likely only see meaningful minutes from Poeltl and Boucher here and there with the possibility of Ingram suiting up for 10-15 games down the stretch to see how the fit looks with the other starters. Like what more do people want? Do they expect us to sit out/shut down even more starters so we can play a 7-man rotation of nothing but rookies and sophomores for the last 25 games?

These guys will continue you move the goal post anytime you call them out, it’s really not worth it to argue with them.

No matter what we do it’ll be Masais fault. And when they’re proven wrong they just move on to the next thing.


I’ll say it again, they were WRONG about Masai going for the play in.