Tank Watch 2025

[youngcrev]

Also, on the tank watch:
-The Sixers owe a first to Brooklyn in 2027 or 2028.
-If the Sixers keep their pick this year and next year, it is top 4 protected in 2027.
-If the pick conveys in 2027, I would assume they wouldn’t be able to convey a pick to Brooklyn in 2028.
-My understanding is that if we don’t convey a pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then we just give them our 2028 second round pick.

If I am reading it correctly, if we keep our pick this year and next, although not likely, then we won’t be losing picks to both OKC and Brooklyn. It would become one or the other.

I believe having another team's pick would allow us to trade a pick the following year. Since we own the Clippers 2028 pick, we would have to relinquish our 2028 pick to the Nets.

The wording realgm has is:
At least two years after Philadelphia conveys a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City if this pick is conveyed to Oklahoma City in 2025 or 2026, Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 1-8 in 2027 and 1-8 in 2028; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Brooklyn

The "at least two after the OKC pick is conveyed" part makes it seem to me like this pick become a 2nd if we don't convey the OKC pick this year or next.

[Negrodamus]

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[eyeatoma]

Writing is on the wall.

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[JordanMars]

embiid shut down and looks like toronto might beat phoenix

could be a great night for the tank

[sixers hoops]

embiid shut down and looks like toronto might beat phoenix

could be a great night for the tank

As you said, a hurt Embiid has been pretty bad. However, I like our chances to lose better without him.

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Unless he can get a transplant or artificial replacement of the cushioning in his knee, he is done. If anybody can do it, it’s him. Simply because he is a multimillionaire with a billionaire owner desperate to get him healthy. The resources at their disposal should be the best in the world. I’m just not sure how easy or successful these operations are.

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Surgery being explored.

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Unless he can get a transplant or artificial replacement of the cushioning in his knee, he is done. If anybody can do it, it’s him. Simply because he is a multimillionaire with a billionaire owner desperate to get him healthy. The resources at their disposal should be the best in the world. I’m just not sure how easy or successful these operations are.

Needs to get the Lonzo surgery.

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Unless he can get a transplant or artificial replacement of the cushioning in his knee, he is done. If anybody can do it, it’s him. Simply because he is a multimillionaire with a billionaire owner desperate to get him healthy. The resources at their disposal should be the best in the world. I’m just not sure how easy or successful these operations are.

Needs to get the Lonzo surgery.

I’ll have to look that up. One of the doctors I follow mentioned it in the past though.

[76thBearCub]

This is fantastic news huh? As opposed to not considering options. Strong move 6ers

[Black Mage]

Nice Raptors, great upset of the Suns! 2 more wins 2 go!

[sixers hoops]

Also, on the tank watch:
-The Sixers owe a first to Brooklyn in 2027 or 2028.
-If the Sixers keep their pick this year and next year, it is top 4 protected in 2027.
-If the pick conveys in 2027, I would assume they wouldn’t be able to convey a pick to Brooklyn in 2028.
-My understanding is that if we don’t convey a pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then we just give them our 2028 second round pick.

If I am reading it correctly, if we keep our pick this year and next, although not likely, then we won’t be losing picks to both OKC and Brooklyn. It would become one or the other.

I believe having another team's pick would allow us to trade a pick the following year. Since we own the Clippers 2028 pick, we would have to relinquish our 2028 pick to the Nets.

The wording realgm has is:
At least two years after Philadelphia conveys a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City if this pick is conveyed to Oklahoma City in 2025 or 2026, Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 1-8 in 2027 and 1-8 in 2028; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Brooklyn

The "at least two after the OKC pick is conveyed" part makes it seem to me like this pick become a 2nd if we don't convey the OKC pick this year or next.

Probably a moot point anyway, but we would really have to dig to get a definitive answer on that one.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Toronto looked good tonight against Phoenix. Would not surprise me at all if they make a push for the play-in. I think bottom five is as good as it's gonna get for us. I'll take those odds.

[sixers hoops]

Raptors have the easiest strength of schedule in the league. We have the fourth easiest. They have 3 against Wash, 2 against us, 2 against Brooklyn, 2 against Chicago, 2 against Utah, 2 against Charlotte, and 2 against Portland. Ultimately, 15 of their final 25 games are against the bottom 8 teams, excluding themselves.

Whenever the Raps, Brooklyn, Chicago, Portland, or San Antonio play any of Charlotte, Utah, NO, or Wash, since the latter likely can’t win more games than us, I hope the former takes those games.

Brooklyn has more life than us. SA and Portland are four wins ahead of us. Chicago is pretty bad. I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish behind the Raps.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Raptors have the easiest strength of schedule in the league. We have the fourth easiest. They have 3 against Wash, 2 against us, 2 against Brooklyn, 2 against Chicago, 2 against Utah, 2 against Charlotte, and 2 against Portland. Ultimately, 15 of their final 25 games are against the bottom 8 teams, excluding themselves.

Whenever the Raps, Brooklyn, Chicago, Portland, or San Antonio play any of Charlotte, Utah, NO, or Wash, since the latter likely can’t win more games than us, I hope the former takes those games.

Brooklyn has more life than us. SA and Portland are four wins ahead of us. Chicago is pretty bad. I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish behind the Raps.

I believe Toronto will catch us by mid March. Maybe earlier. I'd like to see any of Charlotte, Utah, or New Orleans go on a run. If I had to pick one I'd say New Orleans has the best shot. If we can get to bottom five I'll feel pretty good about our chances of keeping the pick. Brooklyn is a game up on us. Can't give that back to them. At the very worst we stay at six. I'd like to see bottom four but like I said, The Pels will have to get it going with Zion.

[sixers hoops]

Raptors have the easiest strength of schedule in the league. We have the fourth easiest. They have 3 against Wash, 2 against us, 2 against Brooklyn, 2 against Chicago, 2 against Utah, 2 against Charlotte, and 2 against Portland. Ultimately, 15 of their final 25 games are against the bottom 8 teams, excluding themselves.

Whenever the Raps, Brooklyn, Chicago, Portland, or San Antonio play any of Charlotte, Utah, NO, or Wash, since the latter likely can’t win more games than us, I hope the former takes those games.

Brooklyn has more life than us. SA and Portland are four wins ahead of us. Chicago is pretty bad. I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish behind the Raps.

I believe Toronto will catch us by mid March. Maybe earlier. I'd like to see any of Charlotte, Utah, or New Orleans go on a run. If I had to pick one I'd say New Orleans has the best shot. If we can get to bottom five I'll feel pretty good about our chances of keeping the pick. Brooklyn is a game up on us. Can't give that back to them. At the very worst we stay at six. I'd like to see bottom four but like I said, The Pels will have to get it going with Zion.

I think Raps will likely pass us. The only thing that will keep us out of the bottom five is passing Chicago, Brooklyn, Portland, or SA.

Tomorrow night, Chicago vs us, Brooklyn vs Wiz, and Portland vs Utah.

If Chicago, Brooklyn, and Portland win, it puts Portland 5 games up on us, and puts Brooklyn and Chicago each another game up on us. Chicago has been pretty bad though.

[the_process]

Also, on the tank watch:
-The Sixers owe a first to Brooklyn in 2027 or 2028.
-If the Sixers keep their pick this year and next year, it is top 4 protected in 2027.
-If the pick conveys in 2027, I would assume they wouldn’t be able to convey a pick to Brooklyn in 2028.
-My understanding is that if we don’t convey a pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then we just give them our 2028 second round pick.

If I am reading it correctly, if we keep our pick this year and next, although not likely, then we won’t be losing picks to both OKC and Brooklyn. It would become one or the other.

I believe having another team's pick would allow us to trade a pick the following year. Since we own the Clippers 2028 pick, we would have to relinquish our 2028 pick to the Nets.

The wording realgm has is:
At least two years after Philadelphia conveys a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City if this pick is conveyed to Oklahoma City in 2025 or 2026, Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 1-8 in 2027 and 1-8 in 2028; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Brooklyn by 2028, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Brooklyn

The "at least two after the OKC pick is conveyed" part makes it seem to me like this pick become a 2nd if we don't convey the OKC pick this year or next.

My understanding is that essentially they traded the 2027 1st to BKN. But since the Sixers could convey a pick in 2025 or 2026 to OKC, they needed that ‘two years after’ language to satisfy the Stepien Rule. If they somehow do not convey a pick to OKC at all, then they will still be on the hook for a 2027 top 8 protected 1st to BKN.

[the_process]

So it seems sooner rather than later Jo will be out for the year, followed closely by George. Depending on what Jo decides to do, he might miss all of next year as well.

This bodes well for the tank. Just have Nurse limit Maxey’s minutes and they won’t win more than 5 games the rest of the year.

[Jhawk03]

I'm trying my best

But I simply cannot engage in any discussion of a tank when there's a greater than 1% chance losing the pick. Especially considering the pick is going to OKC. Is there a concensus on what the worst case scenario is for the rest of the season through the lottery?? Because that's where the planning should begin.