PG Washington - Bucks Hang On For 3rd Straight Win

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

OKC reset with sga and a bunch of "right fit, young, modern game try hards".... in a forced paul george trade with only one team in play.

whos our sga? can we get two of them with our two guys? shouldnt that be a topic at some point? isnt that point theoretically, maybe obviously after this season? if we fail miserably with the current approach, which is currently occuring..... shouldnt this summer be the absolute end?

That wasn’t because OKC was shopping to reset. Kawhi would only sign with LAC if they traded for PG which gave OKC a ton of leverage in the trade because LAC was viewing it as the cost to get Kawhi and PG. So they got SGA and a bunch of picks. Actively shopping superstars rarely gets you great value.

Yup. Doc told Kawhi he was better off keeping SGA. Doc was so right.

kawhi called george. george told okc he wanted to go to clips. okc made a deal with clips...got sga

both you guys wrong wrong worng. this was a simple thing back then.

either way.....if they **** the bed in the playoffs.... thats when they both could get zipped..... if this whole all in thing with dame/giannis looks like **** in the spring....then zip them both.

starts to get super dumb if you dont and an sga is out there. let alone if a bunch of viable guys that can play more than best case 50-60 games a year also come back with them

[tedbrogen]

That wasn’t because OKC was shopping to reset. Kawhi would only sign with LAC if they traded for PG which gave OKC a ton of leverage in the trade because LAC was viewing it as the cost to get Kawhi and PG. So they got SGA and a bunch of picks. Actively shopping superstars rarely gets you great value.

Yup. Doc told Kawhi he was better off keeping SGA. Doc was so right.

kawhi called george. george told okc he wanted to go to clips. okc made a deal with clips...got sga

both you guys wrong wrong worng. this was a simple thing back then.

either way.....if they **** the bed in the playoffs.... thats when they both could get zipped..... if this whole all in thing with dame/giannis looks like **** in the spring....then zip them both.

starts to get super dumb if you dont and an sga is out there. let alone if a bunch of viable guys that can play more than best case 50-60 games a year also come back with them

Sorry, dude, your premise about “when the Bucks should start thinking about shopping Giannis is wrong wrong wrong as you just stated “George told OKC he wanted to go to the Clips”. Without that OKC, would have continue to roll with George. You’re also ignoring that OKC was well aware that it was related to Kawhi going to LAC and a near certainty they knew Kawhi was only signing with the Clips if George was traded there. So OKC didn’t shop George (destroys your premise and supports my post), he asked out, and they lucked into having a TON of leverage.

If Giannis asks out, sure trade him for the biggest package possible. If he never asks out, he retires a Buck. They ain’t shopping him as they shouldn’t.

[StickeeFingaz]

Edit: wrong thread.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Yup. Doc told Kawhi he was better off keeping SGA. Doc was so right.

kawhi called george. george told okc he wanted to go to clips. okc made a deal with clips...got sga

both you guys wrong wrong worng. this was a simple thing back then.

either way.....if they **** the bed in the playoffs.... thats when they both could get zipped..... if this whole all in thing with dame/giannis looks like **** in the spring....then zip them both.

starts to get super dumb if you dont and an sga is out there. let alone if a bunch of viable guys that can play more than best case 50-60 games a year also come back with them

Sorry, dude, your premise about “when the Bucks should start thinking about shopping Giannis is wrong wrong wrong as you just stated “George told OKC he wanted to go to the Clips”. Without that OKC, would have continue to roll with George. You’re also ignoring that OKC was well aware that it was related to Kawhi going to LAC and a near certainty they knew Kawhi was only signing with the Clips if George was traded there. So OKC didn’t shop George (destroys your premise and supports my post), he asked out, and they lucked into having a TON of leverage.

If Giannis asks out, sure trade him for the biggest package possible. If he never asks out, he retires a Buck. They ain’t shopping him as they shouldn’t.

if giannis cant stay healthy then of course he will be far less likely to ask out while also asking for a supermax deal.

thats the worst outcome ever and its also the most likely. so your big plan is literally not just a bad plan.....its a likely bad plan.

if a healthy dame and giannis cant win this year then what makes you think it will get better? so im not talking about shopping them until after this year. but if they fail and look like **** then why wouldnt you consider it?

over the next 7 years hopefully his health holds enough we can make the playoffs in his good years. at least your plan will be semi-defensible those years maybe.

[ShootingtheJ]

kawhi called george. george told okc he wanted to go to clips. okc made a deal with clips...got sga

both you guys wrong wrong worng. this was a simple thing back then.

either way.....if they **** the bed in the playoffs.... thats when they both could get zipped..... if this whole all in thing with dame/giannis looks like **** in the spring....then zip them both.

starts to get super dumb if you dont and an sga is out there. let alone if a bunch of viable guys that can play more than best case 50-60 games a year also come back with them

Sorry, dude, your premise about “when the Bucks should start thinking about shopping Giannis is wrong wrong wrong as you just stated “George told OKC he wanted to go to the Clips”. Without that OKC, would have continue to roll with George. You’re also ignoring that OKC was well aware that it was related to Kawhi going to LAC and a near certainty they knew Kawhi was only signing with the Clips if George was traded there. So OKC didn’t shop George (destroys your premise and supports my post), he asked out, and they lucked into having a TON of leverage.

If Giannis asks out, sure trade him for the biggest package possible. If he never asks out, he retires a Buck. They ain’t shopping him as they shouldn’t.

if giannis cant stay healthy then of course he will be far less likely to ask out while also asking for a supermax deal.

thats the worst outcome ever and its also the most likely. so your big plan is literally not just a bad plan.....its a likely bad plan.

if a healthy dame and giannis cant win this year then what makes you think it will get better? so im not talking about shopping them until after this year. but if they fail and look like **** then why wouldnt you consider it?

over the next 7 years hopefully his health holds enough we can make the playoffs in his good years. at least your plan will be semi-defensible those years maybe.

If they don't win, it'll likely be for the same reason we struggle now, Dame don't defend. So you move Dame and put better fitting pieces around Giannis.

[tedbrogen]

kawhi called george. george told okc he wanted to go to clips. okc made a deal with clips...got sga

both you guys wrong wrong worng. this was a simple thing back then.

either way.....if they **** the bed in the playoffs.... thats when they both could get zipped..... if this whole all in thing with dame/giannis looks like **** in the spring....then zip them both.

starts to get super dumb if you dont and an sga is out there. let alone if a bunch of viable guys that can play more than best case 50-60 games a year also come back with them

Sorry, dude, your premise about “when the Bucks should start thinking about shopping Giannis is wrong wrong wrong as you just stated “George told OKC he wanted to go to the Clips”. Without that OKC, would have continue to roll with George. You’re also ignoring that OKC was well aware that it was related to Kawhi going to LAC and a near certainty they knew Kawhi was only signing with the Clips if George was traded there. So OKC didn’t shop George (destroys your premise and supports my post), he asked out, and they lucked into having a TON of leverage.

If Giannis asks out, sure trade him for the biggest package possible. If he never asks out, he retires a Buck. They ain’t shopping him as they shouldn’t.

if giannis cant stay healthy then of course he will be far less likely to ask out while also asking for a supermax deal.

thats the worst outcome ever and its also the most likely. so your big plan is literally not just a bad plan.....its a likely bad plan.

if a healthy dame and giannis cant win this year then what makes you think it will get better? so im not talking about shopping them until after this year. but if they fail and look like **** then why wouldnt you consider it?

over the next 7 years hopefully his health holds enough we can make the playoffs in his good years. at least your plan will be semi-defensible those years maybe.

Keeping the greatest player in franchise history is the “worst possible outcome”. Lol. Okay dude.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Sorry, dude, your premise about “when the Bucks should start thinking about shopping Giannis is wrong wrong wrong as you just stated “George told OKC he wanted to go to the Clips”. Without that OKC, would have continue to roll with George. You’re also ignoring that OKC was well aware that it was related to Kawhi going to LAC and a near certainty they knew Kawhi was only signing with the Clips if George was traded there. So OKC didn’t shop George (destroys your premise and supports my post), he asked out, and they lucked into having a TON of leverage.

If Giannis asks out, sure trade him for the biggest package possible. If he never asks out, he retires a Buck. They ain’t shopping him as they shouldn’t.

if giannis cant stay healthy then of course he will be far less likely to ask out while also asking for a supermax deal.

thats the worst outcome ever and its also the most likely. so your big plan is literally not just a bad plan.....its a likely bad plan.

if a healthy dame and giannis cant win this year then what makes you think it will get better? so im not talking about shopping them until after this year. but if they fail and look like **** then why wouldnt you consider it?

over the next 7 years hopefully his health holds enough we can make the playoffs in his good years. at least your plan will be semi-defensible those years maybe.

Keeping the greatest player in franchise history is the “worst possible outcome”. Lol. Okay dude.

its not like that. i'll always love the idea of giannis in a bucks uniform and hopefully retiring here. but if thats the only upside of keeping him then thats nuts. we just went thru it with khris and the world didnt break.

so if he cant stay healthy and isnt winning and wants a supermax then yes. 100% yes. to me it isnt even complicated.

the pressure is on him to compete and win. not us to support him. we can thank him deeply like we did khris....then pull the trigger when he still has value instead of a likely meh contract on his next deal.

im 100% all in on this year and super hopeful and behind him. i want to reiterate that.....but if we keep laboring and dont make it out the first round again then im ready for a new look of young talented bouncy guys that can shoot and defend. the league has changed that way and holding giannis accountable for failure is just as important as recognizing his success.

bottom line superstars playing 60 games on mintues restrictions taking up supermax contracts and missing half their playoff games are literally the least value ever. the last several years have been a buzz kill. really....a buzz kill. ill be ready for something different.

[tedbrogen]

if giannis cant stay healthy then of course he will be far less likely to ask out while also asking for a supermax deal.

thats the worst outcome ever and its also the most likely. so your big plan is literally not just a bad plan.....its a likely bad plan.

if a healthy dame and giannis cant win this year then what makes you think it will get better? so im not talking about shopping them until after this year. but if they fail and look like **** then why wouldnt you consider it?

over the next 7 years hopefully his health holds enough we can make the playoffs in his good years. at least your plan will be semi-defensible those years maybe.

Keeping the greatest player in franchise history is the “worst possible outcome”. Lol. Okay dude.

its not like that. i'll always love the idea of giannis in a bucks uniform and hopefully retiring here. but if thats the only upside of keeping him then thats nuts. we just went thru it with khris and the world didnt break.

so if he cant stay healthy and isnt winning and wants a supermax then yes. 100% yes. to me it isnt even complicated.

the pressure is on him to compete and win. not us to support him. we can thank him deeply like we did khris....then pull the trigger when he still has value instead of a likely meh contract on his next deal.

im 100% all in on this year and super hopeful and behind him. i want to reiterate that.....but if we keep laboring and dont make it out the first round again then im ready for a new look of young talented bouncy guys that can shoot and defend. the league has changed that way and holding giannis accountable for failure is just as important as recognizing his success.

bottom line superstars playing 60 games on mintues restrictions taking up supermax contracts and missing half their playoff games are literally the least value ever. the last several years have been a buzz kill. really....a buzz kill. ill be ready for something different.

45 paragraphs I’m not going to read for you to try to explain why you think the Bucks are better without the second best player in the world…

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Keeping the greatest player in franchise history is the “worst possible outcome”. Lol. Okay dude.

its not like that. i'll always love the idea of giannis in a bucks uniform and hopefully retiring here. but if thats the only upside of keeping him then thats nuts. we just went thru it with khris and the world didnt break.

so if he cant stay healthy and isnt winning and wants a supermax then yes. 100% yes. to me it isnt even complicated.

the pressure is on him to compete and win. not us to support him. we can thank him deeply like we did khris....then pull the trigger when he still has value instead of a likely meh contract on his next deal.

im 100% all in on this year and super hopeful and behind him. i want to reiterate that.....but if we keep laboring and dont make it out the first round again then im ready for a new look of young talented bouncy guys that can shoot and defend. the league has changed that way and holding giannis accountable for failure is just as important as recognizing his success.

bottom line superstars playing 60 games on mintues restrictions taking up supermax contracts and missing half their playoff games are literally the least value ever. the last several years have been a buzz kill. really....a buzz kill. ill be ready for something different.

45 paragraphs I’m not going to read for you to try to explain why you think the Bucks are better without the second best player in the world…

cliff notes....if we finish around .500 and he misses his 3rd playoff in a row then your 2nd best in the world bit is a crock of ****.

lets move on.

[tedbrogen]

its not like that. i'll always love the idea of giannis in a bucks uniform and hopefully retiring here. but if thats the only upside of keeping him then thats nuts. we just went thru it with khris and the world didnt break.

so if he cant stay healthy and isnt winning and wants a supermax then yes. 100% yes. to me it isnt even complicated.

the pressure is on him to compete and win. not us to support him. we can thank him deeply like we did khris....then pull the trigger when he still has value instead of a likely meh contract on his next deal.

im 100% all in on this year and super hopeful and behind him. i want to reiterate that.....but if we keep laboring and dont make it out the first round again then im ready for a new look of young talented bouncy guys that can shoot and defend. the league has changed that way and holding giannis accountable for failure is just as important as recognizing his success.

bottom line superstars playing 60 games on mintues restrictions taking up supermax contracts and missing half their playoff games are literally the least value ever. the last several years have been a buzz kill. really....a buzz kill. ill be ready for something different.

45 paragraphs I’m not going to read for you to try to explain why you think the Bucks are better without the second best player in the world…

cliff notes....if we finish around .500 and he misses his 3rd playoff in a row then your 2nd best in the world bit is a crock of ****.

lets move on.

Calm down dude.