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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

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Post#442 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:16 pm

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j4remi wrote:The roster has flaws. The coach has flaws. There's time to fix one or the other because the core is reasonably young. The team has the third-best record in the East, but has to find a way to make that last leap. If the question is "what's holding the team back from being contenders?" The answer's "All the above" but solving a problem could be a domino...like what appears to have happened with Cleveland this season.


there are also only so many levers you can pull.

The roster is pretty much the roster...so the FO clearly believed in roster...doesn't mean all needed to be sorted out in year 1.

Macri said as much, we can make some moves on the margins in the offseason maybe one or two to give us more depth...but barring a complete overhaul of the roster which I don't expect after 1 season with this group.

The one avenue to look at is the coach getting the most out of the group. A lot of underlying metrics on both sides of the ball suggest we aren't. That doesn't mean Thibs is a bad coach...our roster may just have outgrown him.


The core needs to be overhauled. It blows.
Thibs can go too.



I know your being a buzz kill but the "core" of the team doesn't blow. We are still on pace to finish with a top 5 record. After these moves I don't think anyone thought we leapfrogged BOS and OKC. Now it doesn't feel good to be uncompetitive in those games. But blowing up a core you just put together that will put together one of the best regular seasons in franchise history is pre-mature.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#443 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:18 pm

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there are also only so many levers you can pull.

The roster is pretty much the roster...so the FO clearly believed in roster...doesn't mean all needed to be sorted out in year 1.

Macri said as much, we can make some moves on the margins in the offseason maybe one or two to give us more depth...but barring a complete overhaul of the roster which I don't expect after 1 season with this group.

The one avenue to look at is the coach getting the most out of the group. A lot of underlying metrics on both sides of the ball suggest we aren't. That doesn't mean Thibs is a bad coach...our roster may just have outgrown him.


The core needs to be overhauled. It blows.
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I know your being a buzz kill but the "core" of the team doesn't blow. We are still on pace to finish with a top 5 record. After these moves I don't think anyone thought we leapfrogged BOS and OKC. Now it doesn't feel good to be uncompetitive in those games. But blowing up a core you just put together that will put together one of the best regular seasons in franchise history is pre-mature.


Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#444 » by Zenzibar » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:20 pm

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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#445 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:27 pm

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The core needs to be overhauled. It blows.
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I know your being a buzz kill but the "core" of the team doesn't blow. We are still on pace to finish with a top 5 record. After these moves I don't think anyone thought we leapfrogged BOS and OKC. Now it doesn't feel good to be uncompetitive in those games. But blowing up a core you just put together that will put together one of the best regular seasons in franchise history is pre-mature.


Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.
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Post#448 » by nedleeds » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:47 pm

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j4remi wrote:The roster has flaws. The coach has flaws. There's time to fix one or the other because the core is reasonably young. The team has the third-best record in the East, but has to find a way to make that last leap. If the question is "what's holding the team back from being contenders?" The answer's "All the above" but solving a problem could be a domino...like what appears to have happened with Cleveland this season.


there are also only so many levers you can pull.

The roster is pretty much the roster...so the FO clearly believed in roster...doesn't mean all needed to be sorted out in year 1.

Macri said as much, we can make some moves on the margins in the offseason maybe one or two to give us more depth...but barring a complete overhaul of the roster which I don't expect after 1 season with this group.

The one avenue to look at is the coach getting the most out of the group. A lot of underlying metrics on both sides of the ball suggest we aren't. That doesn't mean Thibs is a bad coach...our roster may just have outgrown him.


The core needs to be overhauled. It blows.
Thibs can go too.


I'd love to blow it up. But unfortunately we have Five Pick Mik on the roster.

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Post#449 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:47 pm

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I know your being a buzz kill but the "core" of the team doesn't blow. We are still on pace to finish with a top 5 record. After these moves I don't think anyone thought we leapfrogged BOS and OKC. Now it doesn't feel good to be uncompetitive in those games. But blowing up a core you just put together that will put together one of the best regular seasons in franchise history is pre-mature.


Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


We'll definitely need to rely on internal development. Guys like Huk and Dadiet will need to pan.

I would have it as ECF or bust with Thibs.
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Post#450 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:47 pm

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I know your being a buzz kill but the "core" of the team doesn't blow. We are still on pace to finish with a top 5 record. After these moves I don't think anyone thought we leapfrogged BOS and OKC. Now it doesn't feel good to be uncompetitive in those games. But blowing up a core you just put together that will put together one of the best regular seasons in franchise history is pre-mature.


Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


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Post#451 » by Guano » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:56 pm

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Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


We'll definitely need to rely on internal development. Guys like Huk and Dadiet will need to pan.

I would have it as ECF or bust with Thibs.


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Post#452 » by nedleeds » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:58 pm

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Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


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Post#453 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:00 pm

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They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


We'll definitely need to rely on internal development. Guys like Huk and Dadiet will need to pan.

I would have it as ECF or bust with Thibs.


We need the update on those astroid odds, homie.


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Post#454 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:08 pm

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Right and we lost iHart for nothing and Mitch hasn't played.

This is why we need to look at the team with Mitch very closely when he comes back. Not that he's some panacea that fixes everything (so nobody respond with that kind of dumb **** post) but he's a different _type_ of player that can cover for some of KAT/JB's deficiencies. A proper rim protector. We can evaluate if that type of player or maybe Mitch himself helps us compete or if we're still substantially deficient. Likewise, it gives us a proper look at Thibs with these offensive weapons and a drop coverage big.

We also should have given Huk some run to that effect. The C's were abusing us on the glass.
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Post#455 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:10 pm

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Ok. It's awesome. It's like that bogus Melo team that made the playoffs that everyone salivated over but you knew were going absolutely nowhere. It's the younger version of that. So, 4 more years of that will be fun.


They're still a work in progress. The new CBA makes things tricky but we are at least set up for a good 4-5 year run with this group. Nothing close to the 1 year Melo team with being the oldest team in the NBA.

If you take a step back and look at what we have watched for the last 20 or so years...you will appreciate it more that we are now in a position that we are actually upset when we lose. We can also get better...not just with the roster but with exploring if the coach has capped out improving this roster. The playoffs will tell a lot.


We'll definitely need to rely on internal development. Guys like Huk and Dadiet will need to pan.

I would have it as ECF or bust with Thibs.



I wouldn't even necessarily say ECF or bust...if they are the #3 seed a take BOS to a 6 or 7 game series and have mostly close competitive games..I don't think that is terrible. That would show with an extra year together and maybe some internal develiopment and a couple tweeks to the depth we could beat them.

But if they get outclassed like they are doing all regular season then yes Thibs would be the first one to go.
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Post#456 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:15 pm

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Just switch :lol:

Weak in the ass Mikal gets sealed off by KP without any problems waiting for the lob. KAT now has to decide does he go help or does he stay up so he’s in no man’s land. Tatum attacks off the screen and gets KAT back pedaling and KAT provides zero resistance at the rim for an easy layup and that is with OG trying his best to still help and contest.

Layups and dunks. No matter the scheme, KAT is still targeted



and I showed you where the switching works from the last game with clips...and crickets from you because it doesn't fit your narrative. No defensive system is going to work everytime especially with KAT's lack of defensively ability along with Brunson. But that just doesn't mean continue to run drop...especially vs the celtics..people have shown the numbers so I don't have to restate them.

Also the Celtics shot way worse from 3 yesterday and we switched way more in that game than the previous two. So I'm not sure what the last clip shows,

We were actually way worse in Precious minutes than KAT's and he's a way better defender. We still gave up pts with KAT off the floor.

And we don't talk about our offense...why are we putting up 19 pts in the 1st qtr? Again we go into a game a team is just going to switch all our screens and then we are way too slow to have a counter for that.
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Right and we lost iHart for nothing and Mitch hasn't played.

This is why we need to look at the team with Mitch very closely when he comes back. Not that he's some panacea that fixes everything (so nobody respond with that kind of dumb **** post) but he's a different _type_ of player that can cover for some of KAT/JB's deficiencies. A proper rim protector. We can evaluate if that type of player or maybe Mitch himself helps us compete or if we're still substantially deficient. Likewise, it gives us a proper look at Thibs with these offensive weapons and a drop coverage big.

We also should have given Huk some run to that effect. The C's were abusing us on the glass.


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