*Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS

[FrodoBaggins]

*UPDATE*

Josh has continued his stellar play, putting up 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS in 35.0 minutes per game over 9 games since the All-Star break. He has shot 52.2% FG, 52.3% 2PT (10.7 attempts), 52.5% 3PT (4.4 attempts), and 86.5% FT (5.8 attempts).

For a larger sample over 21 games, Josh in 33.0 minutes per game has averaged 18.6 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 0.9 bpg on 63.1% TS. Shooting splits of 50.6% FG, 53.0% 2PT (8.3 attempts), 45.8% 3PT (4.6 attempts), and 83.0% FT (4.2 attempts).

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Shooting 48.8% 3PT on 5.4 attempts. Only 8 games but he's really balled out since gaining greater ball-handling duties with LaVine shipped out. Still only 22. Shooting has shown small improvements. I think his improved defense and increased physical play leading to more foul drawing are more notable though.

I wonder what kind of deal he ends up getting in the offseason. I believe he's a RFA so there might be an offer sheet signed. I think he's worth 20-25m to the right team but I hear he wants 30.

If CHI actually does a rebuild and tanks for a few years with Josh as the tank commander a frontloaded contract could work. Would fit their timeline but I hear the Bulls ownership doesn't like to tank.

[scrabbarista]

M-V-P! M-V-P!

[Karate Diop]

What was the Bulls' record in those games?

[cocktailswith_2short]

What was the Bulls' record in those games?

have you looked at the bulls roster ? It's pretty much just giddey and ultra raw rookie buzelis at this point they aren't trying to win .

[Big J]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

[vxmike]

Empty stats on a terrible team. Is Giddey going to be a net positive player on a winning team for $30m?

[FrodoBaggins]

He's lighting up Philly right now. 20 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, and 3 blocks with like 24 minutes left in the game.

[Big J]

He's lighting up Philly right now. 20 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, and 3 blocks with like 24 minutes left in the game.

And no one cares but you.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Empty stats on a terrible team. Is Giddey going to be a net positive player on a winning team for $30m?

Nobody is paying Giddey 30 Million.

[letsgobulls23]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Just because he didn't fit with OKC doesn't mean he's trash. Just because the Bulls are trash doesn't mean his production is meaningless.

I'm not a huge fan, and maybe you're right that it doesn't mean anything long term, but he definitely has been playing improved. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.

[Big J]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Just because he didn't fit with OKC doesn't mean he's trash. Just because the Bulls are trash doesn't mean his production is meaningless.

I'm not a huge fan, and maybe you're right that it doesn't mean anything long term, but he definitely has been playing improved. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.

It’s meaningless because he can’t do that on a contender.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Just because he didn't fit with OKC doesn't mean he's trash. Just because the Bulls are trash doesn't mean his production is meaningless.

I'm not a huge fan, and maybe you're right that it doesn't mean anything long term, but he definitely has been playing improved. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.

He has had many 8-10 game stretches better than this one in his career.

2024: 10 G, 19/8/7 on 64.8 TS%
2023: 9 G, 20/8/6 on on 55 TS%

Unfortunately, the biggest hurdle for Giddey is he is such a sieve defensively he needs to be a Trae Young level creator/shooter to even be remotely playable in a competitive playoff series. He also needs to make major strides as a shooter to shoot against playoff defenses where he has less time and space to shoot but his release is super slow for an NBA player.

You start checking the boxes at first and Giddey is a good rebounder, a good playmaker/passer and can do a little bit of penetration and drive/kick. That's all good on paper but the rest of his game isn't built for post-season basketball and he isn't an offensive engine where you are willing to sacrifice all the deficiencies for the offense.

He is still just 22 years old, which means he may get to a point in 2,3 or 5 years where he has less weaknesses and stronger strengths. I hope the Bulls hang-on to him long-term since they have no promising prospects and should be looking at a 2-3 year re-build barring lottery luck.

[Clav]

There's value in proving that he can contribute whether it is on a contender or not. Giddey has a good feel for the game and is on a big run of production. Yeah, not every month of his career will be like this, but with a bit more confidence in his shot, plus his already decent offensive passing, he can be a productive player. RFA this offseason will illuminate his immediate future, but surely a team can use a point-forward/big guard, I'm unsure he gets 30M but we see players in contract years start cookin' up big games to receive a nice payout. Never underestimate insane NBA GMs!

Big J - don't assume that no one cares, please.

[meekrab]

Empty stats on a terrible team. Is Giddey going to be a net positive player on a winning team for $30m?

Nobody is paying Giddey 30 Million.

Lets hope the Bulls don't.

[Handlez]

Future all-star.

What a baller.

[FrodoBaggins]

- 25 points, 16 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal, 3 blocks, 6 turnovers
- 8-11 FG, 3-3 3PT, 6-6 FT
- +28

Not a bad game from Josh.

[TwitterFingers]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Caruso trash? You might want to reevaluate that take.

[DrModesty]

Giddey came in to the league as a player with 2 very high level skills (passing and rebounding) and everything else being distinctly project level. That is why there was that infamous graphic that essentially said he is bad at basketball.

Most of his project level skills have been slowly iterating and improving. The 3 is improving both in percentage and in volume. He has been playing his career best defense the last couple of months (more blocks and steals, and holding up more consistently against penetration when guarding opposing forwards). His free throw rate is improving.

There is a pretty real chance that by the time he is in his late 20's that he is a vital player to a contending team.

[durden_tyler]

Obviously, he will have chances in the future so he has time to prove these are not empty stats.

[Big J]

Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Caruso trash? You might want to reevaluate that take.

You're right, Caruso isn't trash, OKC easily won the trade.