*Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS

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Re: Josh Giddey in February: 19.1 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.0 bpg on 62.8% TS 

Post#21 » by JimmyPlopper » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:43 am

If they can keep playing the Sixers every game, he could be MVP
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Post#22 » by PD28 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:44 am

OP you're doing it wrong. For the BG the title should be: Giddey could be the future face of the League
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Post#23 » by dawhizz » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:46 am

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vxmike wrote:Empty stats on a terrible team. Is Giddey going to be a net positive player on a winning team for $30m?


Nobody is paying Giddey 30 Million.


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Post#24 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:47 am

He he still just 22 years old
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Post#25 » by meekrab » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:49 am

Big J wrote:Completely meaningless empty stats on a non competitive team. It means absolutely nothing. There’s a reason OKC benched him and traded him away for trash.

Are you open to the idea that the reason is he was young and bad and OKC was competing? And players typically get better after their 21st birthday?
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Post#26 » by FrodoBaggins » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:52 am

He's making incremental year-on-year improvements regarding shooting, defense, and foul drawing. I could see him getting a sneak All-Star appearance or two like Gordon Hayward if everything develops and he's on the right team playing the right role.

Hard to think of a player comparison. An in-shape young Boris Diaw?
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Post#27 » by Big J » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:57 am

FrodoBaggins wrote:He's making incremental year-on-year improvements regarding shooting, defense, and foul drawing. I could see him getting a sneak All-Star appearance or two like Gordon Hayward if everything develops and he's on the right team playing the right role.

Hard to think of a player comparison. An in-shape young Boris Diaw?


Hell naw, Bobo was a winning player.
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Post#28 » by Devilanche » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:57 am

He’s not on first option track given any sort of progress but he’s not on out of the league by his first contract track either.

There’s somewhere between a bench contributor to 4th/5th starter in his upside.
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Post#29 » by FrodoBaggins » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:00 am

Big J wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:He's making incremental year-on-year improvements regarding shooting, defense, and foul drawing. I could see him getting a sneak All-Star appearance or two like Gordon Hayward if everything develops and he's on the right team playing the right role.

Hard to think of a player comparison. An in-shape young Boris Diaw?


Hell naw, Bobo was a winning player.

Helps to play with '00s PHX and '10s SAS.
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Post#30 » by Big J » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:07 am

FrodoBaggins wrote:
Big J wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:He's making incremental year-on-year improvements regarding shooting, defense, and foul drawing. I could see him getting a sneak All-Star appearance or two like Gordon Hayward if everything develops and he's on the right team playing the right role.

Hard to think of a player comparison. An in-shape young Boris Diaw?


Hell naw, Bobo was a winning player.

Helps to play with '00s PHX and '10s SAS.


Don't forget that 09-10 Bobcats team.
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Post#31 » by FrodoBaggins » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:08 am

Big J wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:
Big J wrote:
Hell naw, Bobo was a winning player.

Helps to play with '00s PHX and '10s SAS.


Don't forget that 09-10 Bobcats team.

Larry Brown was a great defensive coach.
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Post#32 » by FrodoBaggins » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:12 am

He's not a pull-up shooter. Don't think he'll ever be that. More like a Jason Kidd spot-up type.

I think a mix of younger, in-shape Boris Diaw and older Mavs Kidd is probably a solid upside comp. Some elements of both. Will never have Kidd's defense but at 6'8" he can play out of those secondary actions (screen, hand-off, and roll) and create shots from there in the short roll.
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Post#33 » by bovice » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:13 am

happy for him, hope he sustains it
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Post#34 » by Wingy » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:16 am

Sixers are so, so, so, so bad now.

They let career 3.1ppg machine Dalen Terry tie his 17-point career high.

Only an idiot like Arturas Karnisovas would be pumped after Giddey’s performance tonight.
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Post#35 » by Dan Z » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:37 am

Devilanche wrote:He’s not on first option track given any sort of progress but he’s not on out of the league by his first contract track either.

There’s somewhere between a bench contributor to 4th/5th starter in his upside.


I bet for his next contract he won't be paid as a 4th/5th starter and will get more.

It's one reason why I wanted the Bulls to trade Caruso for picks instead of Giddey.
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Post#36 » by Devilanche » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:43 am

Dan Z wrote:
Devilanche wrote:He’s not on first option track given any sort of progress but he’s not on out of the league by his first contract track either.

There’s somewhere between a bench contributor to 4th/5th starter in his upside.


I bet for his next contract he won't be paid as a 4th/5th starter and will get more.

It's one reason why I wanted the Bulls to trade Caruso for picks instead of Giddey.

I’m interested to see that final amount as well .
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Post#37 » by -Luke- » Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:21 am

FrodoBaggins wrote:
Big J wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:Helps to play with '00s PHX and '10s SAS.


Don't forget that 09-10 Bobcats team.

Larry Brown was a great defensive coach.

Wow, I completely forgot that Larry Brown ever coached the Bobcats and it was for two and a half years.
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Post#38 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:13 am

Presti got fleeced.
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Post#39 » by Charlesareed » Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:02 am

Big J wrote:
FrodoBaggins wrote:He's making incremental year-on-year improvements regarding shooting, defense, and foul drawing. I could see him getting a sneak All-Star appearance or two like Gordon Hayward if everything develops and he's on the right team playing the right role.

Hard to think of a player comparison. An in-shape young Boris Diaw?


Hell naw, Bobo was a winning player.



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Post#40 » by slicedbread2 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:26 am

Raps in 4 wrote:Presti got fleeced.


Not really.

OKC realized that it didn't make sense to pay Giddey because he needs the ball and you aren't taking it out of SGA's hands. Not to mention the emergence of Cason Wallace as a rookie last year made the decision a lot easier due to him being on a rookie deal for 2 more years after this season. He was getting major minutes in the playoffs and Giddey was played off the floor to the point that they had to trade him. Plus factor in the insane guard depth they have with SGA, Jalen Williams, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Lu Dort and Aaron Wiggins before the trade it was obvious he had to be moved.

Getting Caruso who's a proven player was huge because of his experience in the playoffs not to mention his versatility in playing multiple roles has made him a great fit who'll sign a good deal. The 2nd apron is the other elephant in the room and that was the other factor that made Presti decide to move him. Sure they signed AC to a 4/80M, but that's a movable contract should they decide to consolidate with their assets.

For Chicago, honestly they are truly the kings of the treadmill. Outside of Giddey and Brazelis, this team is purely dreadful to watch and nothing will change as long as Reinsdorf is around. They wanted 2 1sts for Caruso, but ultimately got Giddey which isn't bad.

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