Game 56: Kings (28-27) vs Warriors (28-27)

[BoogieTime]

Actually don't know why Doug hasn't emptied the bench. Why play the same guys that have proven to you they don't want to win the game? DDR is the only one that has played with high energy (on offense) and Keegan has done a decent job on Steph on D. But even then, there's been no intensity. Just at least get LaRavia, Keon, Jones, Fultz out there. Give JV some more time and make the guys that can impact the score realise they don't get the right to play the entire game.

Doug is a buddy. Not a real head coach. It’s a sprint to get to the off season and hopefully keep our pick and go from there.

I'm rooting for him, and he will be given the opportunity for the job, but as of now there will be a real coaching search at the end of the season.

His players coach way is a different form from my personality, and I still would've liked to have seen Brown with the new players..

At least calling for this players meeting with the starters is a step to not tolerating anything, and we will assume its halfway to changing the starters (with Keon starting)

Its pretty amazing that we have to ask to have the one starting lineup that has looked very good all season (Monk/Keon). But there is a quandary of who to start with them.. as DeMar has been relatively balling now, and Zach looks to be part of the core regardless how garbage he has been recently

[BoogieTime]

these are two evenly balanced teams that will take this to the wire

This is a foolish take, warriors running rough shod since acquiring butler..

Still, there was some alarming lack of effort going on in this game, and some players showing alarming trends

I think next game will tell more

[OxAndFox]

these are two evenly balanced teams that will take this to the wire

This is a foolish take, warriors running rough shod since acquiring butler..

Still, there was some alarming lack of effort going on in this game, and some players showing alarming trends

I think next game will tell more

No one could have predicted these guys would come out of the break so flat and clearly not caring. And that better change next game because if it doesn't the Hornets will give it to the Kings. If that happens I don't think there will be many Ws on the backend of the season.
5 x B2B games left too.

Ws
Utah
San Antonio
Blazers
Wizards
Phoenix - Win the obligatory last game of the season, probably to stuff up lottery position.

L
Houston
Dallas
Denver x 2
Clippers x 2
Knicks - Brutal coming up against them on the 2nd night of a B2B after playing @Clippers while the Knicks have 3 days off
Golden State
Phoenix - 2nd night of B2B
Grizzlies
Chicago - 2nd night of B2B
Cleveland x 2
Milwaukee
Boston
OKC - 2nd night of B2B and playing the above the night before. Just a nightmare.
Orlando
Indiana
Charlotte
Pistons - 2nd night of B2B

Finishing the season at 33-49 would be a brutal reality check for the franchise and may even mean the Kings drop below the Blazers. That's how close the wheels are to falling off IMO.
As you mention though, the next game will tell more.

Also wouldn't surprise if they go on a bit of a run at some point either, it's really up to them.

[KF10]

these are two evenly balanced teams that will take this to the wire

This is a foolish take, warriors running rough shod since acquiring butler..

Still, there was some alarming lack of effort going on in this game, and some players showing alarming trends

I think next game will tell more

No one could have predicted these guys would come out of the break so flat and clearly not caring. And that better change next game because if it doesn't the Hornets will give it to the Kings. If that happens I don't think there will be many Ws on the backend of the season.
5 x B2B games left too.

Ws
Utah
San Antonio
Blazers
Wizards
Phoenix - Win the obligatory last game of the season, probably to stuff up lottery position.

L
Houston
Dallas
Denver x 2
Clippers x 2
Knicks - Brutal coming up against them on the 2nd night of a B2B after playing @Clippers while the Knicks have 3 days off
Golden State
Phoenix - 2nd night of B2B
Grizzlies
Chicago - 2nd night of B2B
Cleveland x 2
Milwaukee
Boston
OKC - 2nd night of B2B and playing the above the night before. Just a nightmare.
Orlando
Indiana
Charlotte
Pistons - 2nd night of B2B

Finishing the season at 33-49 would be a brutal reality check for the franchise and may even mean the Kings drop below the Blazers. That's how close the wheels are to falling off IMO.
As you mention though, the next game will tell more.

Also wouldn't surprise if they go on a bit of a run at some point either, it's really up to them.

If they lose to the Hornets tonight, the flood gates will open, imo. The losses will pile big time.

They really need to keep their lotto pick for this year. Forget the play-in at this point.

[BoogieTime]

I never thought this team will built for long term success, but the level of downfall we just witnessed is unprecedented. Anyone who was hyping this deadline was either unknowledgeable or coping.

We had no defense, so we added 2 more score 1st players who dont do anything else. We have 3 iso ball guards + a center that likes to play with ball movers.

Trade sabonis, trade demar, trade monk. We are stuck with lavine 2.5 years and I'm going to be sick watching this trash non winning player score 25-5 the next 2.5 years while we win 34 games a season. The future is no longer bright in sac. I'm sick to my stomach

They would know more than you

It was addition by subtraction who they got rid of

He would do more than who he is replacing who was good for nothing, not defense, not scoring efficiently or spacing. Doing nothing by soreadibg apathetic energy to his team

I was thinking if these guys need to be ignored or countered.. tricky ? I did good trying to keep it on ignore lol. Right now I will reply to it all if I sense it

[OxAndFox]

I never thought this team will built for long term success, but the level of downfall we just witnessed is unprecedented. Anyone who was hyping this deadline was either unknowledgeable or coping.

We had no defense, so we added 2 more score 1st players who dont do anything else. We have 3 iso ball guards + a center that likes to play with ball movers.

Trade sabonis, trade demar, trade monk. We are stuck with lavine 2.5 years and I'm going to be sick watching this trash non winning player score 25-5 the next 2.5 years while we win 34 games a season. The future is no longer bright in sac. I'm sick to my stomach

They would know more than you

It was addition by subtraction who they got rid of

He would do more than who he is replacing who was good for nothing, not defense, not scoring efficiently or spacing. Doing nothing by soreadibg apathetic energy to his team

I was thinking if these guys need to be ignored or countered.. tricky ? I did good trying to keep it on ignore lol. Right now I will reply to it all if I sense it

Get a glass of water.

[codydaze]

I never thought this team will built for long term success, but the level of downfall we just witnessed is unprecedented. Anyone who was hyping this deadline was either unknowledgeable or coping.

We had no defense, so we added 2 more score 1st players who dont do anything else. We have 3 iso ball guards + a center that likes to play with ball movers.

Trade sabonis, trade demar, trade monk. We are stuck with lavine 2.5 years and I'm going to be sick watching this trash non winning player score 25-5 the next 2.5 years while we win 34 games a season. The future is no longer bright in sac. I'm sick to my stomach

They would know more than you

It was addition by subtraction who they got rid of

He would do more than who he is replacing who was good for nothing, not defense, not scoring efficiently or spacing. Doing nothing by soreadibg apathetic energy to his team

I was thinking if these guys need to be ignored or countered.. tricky ? I did good trying to keep it on ignore lol. Right now I will reply to it all if I sense it

I know you don't like Fox, but what exactly has Zach Lavine proved throughout his career that contributes to winning? He's actually played in less career playoff games than Fox despite being in the league three more years.

Fox led the league in steals last year, is top 10 in deflections this year and is 97th percentile this season guarding drives, so yes he actually does play defense. It's understood you don't like Fox but I don't see how you can possibly think a Fox for Lavine swap improves the future outlook of this team at all.

[BoogieTime]

I never thought this team will built for long term success, but the level of downfall we just witnessed is unprecedented. Anyone who was hyping this deadline was either unknowledgeable or coping.

We had no defense, so we added 2 more score 1st players who dont do anything else. We have 3 iso ball guards + a center that likes to play with ball movers.

Trade sabonis, trade demar, trade monk. We are stuck with lavine 2.5 years and I'm going to be sick watching this trash non winning player score 25-5 the next 2.5 years while we win 34 games a season. The future is no longer bright in sac. I'm sick to my stomach

They would know more than you

It was addition by subtraction who they got rid of

He would do more than who he is replacing who was good for nothing, not defense, not scoring efficiently or spacing. Doing nothing by soreadibg apathetic energy to his team

I was thinking if these guys need to be ignored or countered.. tricky ? I did good trying to keep it on ignore lol. Right now I will reply to it all if I sense it

I know you don't like Fox, but what exactly has Zach Lavine proved throughout his career that contributes to winning? He's actually played in less career playoff games than Fox despite being in the league three more years.

Fox led the league in steals last year, is top 10 in deflections this year and is 97th percentile this season guarding drives, so yes he actually does play defense. It's understood you don't like Fox but I don't see how you can possibly think a Fox for Lavine swap improves the future outlook of this team at all.

Stats like LEBRON which many analysts use paint pretty much the picture that Fox is a bit below average while LaVine is handily so.

Fox is better defensively when he’s not watching the ball, though I don’t think you’d have either on your team for the purpose

One is putting up Curry efficiency and spaces to say the least (sans Kings acclimation) the other not efficient and doesn’t space

I know you guys like D but..

[codydaze]

They would know more than you

It was addition by subtraction who they got rid of

He would do more than who he is replacing who was good for nothing, not defense, not scoring efficiently or spacing. Doing nothing by soreadibg apathetic energy to his team

I was thinking if these guys need to be ignored or countered.. tricky ? I did good trying to keep it on ignore lol. Right now I will reply to it all if I sense it

I know you don't like Fox, but what exactly has Zach Lavine proved throughout his career that contributes to winning? He's actually played in less career playoff games than Fox despite being in the league three more years.

Fox led the league in steals last year, is top 10 in deflections this year and is 97th percentile this season guarding drives, so yes he actually does play defense. It's understood you don't like Fox but I don't see how you can possibly think a Fox for Lavine swap improves the future outlook of this team at all.

Stats like LEBRON which many analysts use paint pretty much the picture that Fox is a bit below average while LaVine is handily so.

Fox is better defensively when he’s not watching the ball, though I don’t think you’d have either on your team for the purpose

One is putting up Curry efficiency and spaces to say the least (sans Kings acclimation) the other not efficient and doesn’t space

I know you guys like D but..

We're really going to compare Zach Lavine to Steph Curry? He turns 30 next month and was having the most efficient season of his career this year in Chicago, what about that situation do you find sustainable? Zach Lavine eFG% last season was 53.1% and Fox eFG% last season was 53.4%.

Career 29.1 AST%/12.4 TOV% on 28.4 USG% for Fox. Career 20.1 AST%/12.9 TOV% on 27.2 USG% for Lavine.

He's a better three point shooter and that's pretty much all he's better at.

[BoogieTime]

I know you don't like Fox, but what exactly has Zach Lavine proved throughout his career that contributes to winning? He's actually played in less career playoff games than Fox despite being in the league three more years.

Fox led the league in steals last year, is top 10 in deflections this year and is 97th percentile this season guarding drives, so yes he actually does play defense. It's understood you don't like Fox but I don't see how you can possibly think a Fox for Lavine swap improves the future outlook of this team at all.

Stats like LEBRON which many analysts use paint pretty much the picture that Fox is a bit below average while LaVine is handily so.

Fox is better defensively when he’s not watching the ball, though I don’t think you’d have either on your team for the purpose

One is putting up Curry efficiency and spaces to say the least (sans Kings acclimation) the other not efficient and doesn’t space

I know you guys like D but..

We're really going to compare Zach Lavine to Steph Curry? He turns 30 next month and was having the most efficient season of his career this year in Chicago, what about that situation do you find sustainable? Zach Lavine eFG% last season was 53.1% and Fox eFG% last season was 53.4%.

Career 29.1 AST%/12.4 TOV% on 28.4 USG% for Fox. Career 20.1 AST%/12.9 TOV% on 27.2 USG% for Lavine.

He's a better three point shooter and that's pretty much all he's better at.

EFG? think we're using TS%, and one is putting up Curry efficiency and the other is below nba average... its why he was targeted..

I think you like Fox...

I think we targeted Zach for a long time, last summer, this season etc. because we have a smart GM. Yes Zach can be coming into his own as a great offensive player at this stage - its been two years this and last

One can play off ball too, as a spacer... this pretty important when neither of them looked to be the teams prime playmaker going forward

[codydaze]

Stats like LEBRON which many analysts use paint pretty much the picture that Fox is a bit below average while LaVine is handily so.

Fox is better defensively when he’s not watching the ball, though I don’t think you’d have either on your team for the purpose

One is putting up Curry efficiency and spaces to say the least (sans Kings acclimation) the other not efficient and doesn’t space

I know you guys like D but..

We're really going to compare Zach Lavine to Steph Curry? He turns 30 next month and was having the most efficient season of his career this year in Chicago, what about that situation do you find sustainable? Zach Lavine eFG% last season was 53.1% and Fox eFG% last season was 53.4%.

Career 29.1 AST%/12.4 TOV% on 28.4 USG% for Fox. Career 20.1 AST%/12.9 TOV% on 27.2 USG% for Lavine.

He's a better three point shooter and that's pretty much all he's better at.

EFG? think we're using TS%, and one is putting up Curry efficiency and the other is below nba average... its why he was targeted..

I think you like Fox...

I think we targeted Zach for a long time, last summer, this season etc. because we have a smart GM. Yes Zach can be coming into his own as a great offensive player at this stage - its been two years this and last

One can play off ball too, as a spacer... this pretty important when neither of them looked to be the teams prime playmaker going forward

Sure, man. Vivek has targeted Zach for a long time, going back to when he originally signed an offer sheet here back in 2017. If you truly believe Zach is going to continue putting up Steph Curry, quite possibly the greatest scorer of all time, efficiency numbers going into his 30s despite not showing he's capable of that the rest of his career then that's on you.

[BoogieTime]

We're really going to compare Zach Lavine to Steph Curry? He turns 30 next month and was having the most efficient season of his career this year in Chicago, what about that situation do you find sustainable? Zach Lavine eFG% last season was 53.1% and Fox eFG% last season was 53.4%.

Career 29.1 AST%/12.4 TOV% on 28.4 USG% for Fox. Career 20.1 AST%/12.9 TOV% on 27.2 USG% for Lavine.

He's a better three point shooter and that's pretty much all he's better at.

EFG? think we're using TS%, and one is putting up Curry efficiency and the other is below nba average... its why he was targeted..

I think you like Fox...

I think we targeted Zach for a long time, last summer, this season etc. because we have a smart GM. Yes Zach can be coming into his own as a great offensive player at this stage - its been two years this and last

One can play off ball too, as a spacer... this pretty important when neither of them looked to be the teams prime playmaker going forward

Sure, man. Vivek has targeted Zach for a long time, going back to when he originally signed an offer sheet here back in 2017. If you truly believe Zach is going to continue putting up Steph Curry, quite possibly the greatest scorer of all time, efficiency numbers going into his 30s despite not showing he's capable of that the rest of his career then that's on you.

Watch on YouTube

;t=5s

It was last season and this season, we are trending towards a highly efficient scorer regardless if he keeps this clip up..

At worst, your talking about just sticking him at SF and letting him house at ~40% 3 pt volume while letting Monk/Keon or whoever at PG playmaker