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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#601 » by sixers hoops » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:11 pm

Arsenal wrote:Sixers plan to sign David Roddy to a 10-day per Adam Aaronson. That gets us to 15 standard (non 2-way) contracts, which should allow Jared Butler to play on his 2-way, since I believe we were out of 2-way availability if under 15 standard roster spots.

Anyone with a scouting report on Roddy? Or on our other 10-day signing Chuma Okeke?


I guess I assumed they were going to convert Butler to a standard contract rather than sign two 10 day guys.

Roddy seems like an undersized PF. A 6’5 guy who plays a physical style of play.
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Post#602 » by Arsenal » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:21 pm

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Arsenal wrote:Sixers plan to sign David Roddy to a 10-day per Adam Aaronson. That gets us to 15 standard (non 2-way) contracts, which should allow Jared Butler to play on his 2-way, since I believe we were out of 2-way availability if under 15 standard roster spots.

Anyone with a scouting report on Roddy? Or on our other 10-day signing Chuma Okeke?


I guess I assumed they were going to convert Butler to a standard contract rather than sign two 10 day guys.

Roddy seems like an undersized PF. A 6’5 guy who plays a physical style of play.


I'm guessing that will happen relatively soon. Maybe helps with negotiating leverage to not convert him immediately.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#603 » by M2J » Sun Feb 9, 2025 8:08 pm

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agiaco wrote:At this point what is Embiid's trade value? It's plummeted a ton in just a year and a half.



Few months of healthy play, and he too can be a Laker by the end of 2025. They just got an extra pick back and ready for Philly.


This. If Joel can be reasonably healthy the rest of the year and in the playoffs, his trade value should go up a lot. Right now it's rock bottom, but if he finishes the season strong one or more teams will convince themselves to roll the dice.


Especially after Morey presents them with the 10 different doctors that signed off on his knee and him being worth that big money deal. Shouldn't be a problem
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#604 » by sogood » Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:30 am

FireMorey wrote:Who cares he sucks. If he was a Pelican instead of a Laker no one would know he existed. Just another LA overhype.


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Post#605 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:56 pm

Offseason trade:

NOP out: Zion
NOP in: Harteinstein, picks

OKC out: Hartenstein, Dort, picks
OKC in: Embiid

PHI out: Embiid
PHI in: Zion, Dort


Maxey/McCain
Dort/Grimes
George/Oubre
Zion
Yabusele/Bona

Insert our top-6 pick wherever they fit.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#606 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:47 pm

Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.
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Post#607 » by SixthStreet » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:05 pm

Is Roddy the guy Memphis took with the pick Morey dealt for Melton?
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Post#608 » by the_process » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:18 pm

youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


:lol:

Just like Elsa from Frozen, it's time to let it go.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#609 » by youngcrev » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:06 pm

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


:lol:

Just like Elsa from Frozen, it's time to let it go.


Just like Anna from Frozen, eat a bag of dicks (haven't actually seen the full movie) :lol:
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Post#610 » by Skybox » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:00 pm

youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


I think that's about his trade value right now :lol:

If PHI is looking to re-tool with a high pick, try to move off PG, etc this summer...is there any chance that McCain could be made available (for a price)? He was a fantastic pick (just like Maxey) at his spot, but maybe not the best long-term pairing with Maxey. ORL has all these great defenders but no backcourt playmakers...just curious as McCain looks like a slightly lesser but very similar Maxey. Both are undersized for SG and both can be targeted defensively (to an extent). As solid as McCain looks as a (injured) rookie, maybe it's a sell-high situation - he might not look as good with more minutes (especially next to Maxey). Just thinking in terms of fit for the long-term.

Anthony Black & DEN 25 frp for McCain?
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Post#611 » by Negrodamus » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:12 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


I think that's about his trade value right now :lol:

If PHI is looking to re-tool with a high pick, try to move off PG, etc this summer...is there any chance that McCain could be made available (for a price)? He was a fantastic pick (just like Maxey) at his spot, but maybe not the best long-term pairing with Maxey. ORL has all these great defenders but no backcourt playmakers...just curious as McCain looks like a slightly lesser but very similar Maxey. Both are undersized for SG and both can be targeted defensively (to an extent). As solid as McCain looks as a (injured) rookie, maybe it's a sell-high situation - he might not look as good with more minutes (especially next to Maxey). Just thinking in terms of fit for the long-term.

Anthony Black & DEN 25 frp for McCain?


I’ll stop watching the Sixers if they make that trade.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#612 » by youngcrev » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:09 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


I think that's about his trade value right now :lol:

If PHI is looking to re-tool with a high pick, try to move off PG, etc this summer...is there any chance that McCain could be made available (for a price)? He was a fantastic pick (just like Maxey) at his spot, but maybe not the best long-term pairing with Maxey. ORL has all these great defenders but no backcourt playmakers...just curious as McCain looks like a slightly lesser but very similar Maxey. Both are undersized for SG and both can be targeted defensively (to an extent). As solid as McCain looks as a (injured) rookie, maybe it's a sell-high situation - he might not look as good with more minutes (especially next to Maxey). Just thinking in terms of fit for the long-term.

Anthony Black & DEN 25 frp for McCain?


:lol:
No. Also, how is Anthony Black and a late 1st selling high?
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#613 » by mjkvol » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:12 pm

Skybox wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


I think that's about his trade value right now :lol:

If PHI is looking to re-tool with a high pick, try to move off PG, etc this summer...is there any chance that McCain could be made available (for a price)? He was a fantastic pick (just like Maxey) at his spot, but maybe not the best long-term pairing with Maxey. ORL has all these great defenders but no backcourt playmakers...just curious as McCain looks like a slightly lesser but very similar Maxey. Both are undersized for SG and both can be targeted defensively (to an extent). As solid as McCain looks as a (injured) rookie, maybe it's a sell-high situation - he might not look as good with more minutes (especially next to Maxey). Just thinking in terms of fit for the long-term.

Anthony Black & DEN 25 frp for McCain?


Not a chance. I'm not a big believer in a Maxey/McCain backcourt other than for certain times in a game, but I do see him as a valuable core guy as a 6th man type who can provide instant offense and can step in and start at either guard position. If I'm trading him, it would only be for a major frontcourt or wing upgrade.

The Sixers priority needs to be eliminating George and the rest of the geriatric crew that Morey brought in.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#614 » by Arsenal » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:15 pm

The vultures are circling.
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Post#615 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:36 pm

I’m sticking to my guns in saying that Morey should’ve signed/traded for two “medium” pieces last summer instead of George.

Now, I think the plan needs to be turning him into two average role players and building around Maxey/2025 pick. We’re basically stuck in the same position as we were with Tobias, expect George cares even less.

Anything we get from Embiid moving forward is a bonus, but shouldn’t be relied upon.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#616 » by Skybox » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:42 pm

Arsenal wrote:The vultures are circling.



that's how it works :lol: ...ORL waited too long to recognize the painful truth. I admire PHI and others who go all-in, but sometimes you hit a wall.

I'm not knocking McCain at all...by "sell high", I just meant that he had an awesome, somewhat unexpected debut - perhaps insiders have more concerns about his ceiling, particularly paired with Maxey. Just a thought. It smells a little like Dame/CJ...two awesome players, but maybe a limited ceiling due to their redundancy and shared weaknesses defensively.

Anthony Black is not as flashy, numbers-wise, but he's already a difference-maker defensively and might become much more. ORL already has Suggs and KCP as bigger, defense-first guards and it's become obvious that they need some playmaking in the backcourt (and more volume 3pt shooting) before we sentence Paolo & Franz to a lifetime of crashing into crowds and trying to make something happen on every possession. I figured it was a yin for yang fit trade and the frp was to acknowledge McCain's scoring numbers...even though I believe AB can contribute just as significantly in other ways, plus he's 6'7" and a savage defender.

I really wanted McCain to drop to ORL - but you got a good one.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#617 » by the_process » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:53 pm

Skybox wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Even though I think it's a reasonable stance at this stage, anyone that wants to trade Embiid can still eat a bag of dicks.


I think that's about his trade value right now :lol:

If PHI is looking to re-tool with a high pick, try to move off PG, etc this summer...is there any chance that McCain could be made available (for a price)? He was a fantastic pick (just like Maxey) at his spot, but maybe not the best long-term pairing with Maxey. ORL has all these great defenders but no backcourt playmakers...just curious as McCain looks like a slightly lesser but very similar Maxey. Both are undersized for SG and both can be targeted defensively (to an extent). As solid as McCain looks as a (injured) rookie, maybe it's a sell-high situation - he might not look as good with more minutes (especially next to Maxey). Just thinking in terms of fit for the long-term.

Anthony Black & DEN 25 frp for McCain?


You can do better than that offer.
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Post#618 » by Negrodamus » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:17 pm

Skybox wrote:
Arsenal wrote:The vultures are circling.



that's how it works :lol: ...ORL waited too long to recognize the painful truth. I admire PHI and others who go all-in, but sometimes you hit a wall.

I'm not knocking McCain at all...by "sell high", I just meant that he had an awesome, somewhat unexpected debut - perhaps insiders have more concerns about his ceiling, particularly paired with Maxey. Just a thought. It smells a little like Dame/CJ...two awesome players, but maybe a limited ceiling due to their redundancy and shared weaknesses defensively.

Anthony Black is not as flashy, numbers-wise, but he's already a difference-maker defensively and might become much more. ORL already has Suggs and KCP as bigger, defense-first guards and it's become obvious that they need some playmaking in the backcourt (and more volume 3pt shooting) before we sentence Paolo & Franz to a lifetime of crashing into crowds and trying to make something happen on every possession. I figured it was a yin for yang fit trade and the frp was to acknowledge McCain's scoring numbers...even though I believe AB can contribute just as significantly in other ways, plus he's 6'7" and a savage defender.

I really wanted McCain to drop to ORL - but you got a good one.


If you asked any team in the league if they would take the year one and rookie grouping of Lillard and McCollum right now, most would 10000% do it. The problem they ran into was peaking at the same time as the best team arguably in NBA history was peaking. Additionally, the team around them was generally not good enough: Nurkic, Aminu, Gary Trent, Old Carmelo were the third "stars" of those teams.

I'm not trading a guy who even has the upside of McCollum (which I think McCain has a higher ceiling) for basically a career role player, but that's just me.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#619 » by mjkvol » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:23 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I’m sticking to my guns in saying that Morey should’ve signed/traded for two “medium” pieces last summer instead of George.

Now, I think the plan needs to be turning him into two average role players and building around Maxey/2025 pick. We’re basically stuck in the same position as we were with Tobias, expect George cares even less.

Anything we get from Embiid moving forward is a bonus, but shouldn’t be relied upon.


Yeah, you and I might have been the two loudest voices here against signing George, of which I saw zero upside if the plan was competing for a title. Spreading that money out would have created a worst case scenario of having tradeable pieces in the event of a reset at the deadline or summer 2025.

What bothered me most was this being seen as the "only" option, one that was pushed and celebrated by the ignorant national media, with their star obsession. Even now, you see articles suggesting that the Sixers tank and "allow Embiid and George to get fully healthy", essentially doing 2025 all over again. Insanity defined.
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Re: ** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread ** 

Post#620 » by Mik317 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:51 pm

every decision has been win asap no matter what at every junction. Every addition has been a guy who was good or won before and the "justification" was well even if its not perfect Biid will drag them to 50 wins and who knows maybe we get lucky in the playoffs.

Biid demise came early and here we are lol. Morey pivoted to younger unknowns at the deadline and after on the market but should have been doing so since he got here...and previous regimes as well. And when you had servicable youth..he let them walk because his braindead coaches refused to play them.

Its been death by a thousand cuts for years now...
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