The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[nzahir]

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man Ben Taylor has fell off so hard to the point that he is grifting gulliable laker fans with a premature video like thjs lol. Ben gotta eat i guess

Whats wrong with TB?

[Ainosterhaspie]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Weird take. Every finals loss came against teams which had much better rosters.

[PistolPeteJR]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Weird take. Every finals loss came against teams which had much better rosters.

“Weird” is not the right word to describe the take. You know that, lol.

If you want to use it to describe the obsession, on the other hand, different story.

[migya]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Weird take. Every finals loss came against teams which had much better rosters.

Probably the first time it's been said Dallas had a better roster. Spurs really didn't either three years later.

[Ainosterhaspie]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Weird take. Every finals loss came against teams which had much better rosters.

Probably the first time it's been said Dallas had a better roster. Spurs really didn't either three years later.

Nah, plenty of people understand that a basketball team is more than the two or three biggest names on the roster.

[migya]

Weird take. Every finals loss came against teams which had much better rosters.

Probably the first time it's been said Dallas had a better roster. Spurs really didn't either three years later.

Nah, plenty of people understand that a basketball team is more than the two or three biggest names on the roster.

Lots of people, most, know that stars make championship teams, more importantly than anything else, which is why most franchises try to get as many as they can.

[RRR3]

Anyone criticizing LeBron for any finals loss besides 2011 utterly deranged. 2011 he should have won though. But he also won when he shouldn’t have in 2016 so it kinda cancels out.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Probably the first time it's been said Dallas had a better roster. Spurs really didn't either three years later.

Nah, plenty of people understand that a basketball team is more than the two or three biggest names on the roster.

Lots of people, most, know that stars make championship teams, more importantly than anything else, which is why most franchises try to get as many as they can.

Well constructed teams win championships. Stars, especially multiple stars are highly overrated as a championship factor, because people for some reason persist in believing, contrary to mountains of evidence, that poorly constructed teams should beat well constructed teams because "count the stars".

[migya]

Nah, plenty of people understand that a basketball team is more than the two or three biggest names on the roster.

Lots of people, most, know that stars make championship teams, more importantly than anything else, which is why most franchises try to get as many as they can.

Well constructed teams win championships. Stars, especially multiple stars are highly overrated as a championship factor, because people for some reason persist in believing, contrary to mountains of evidence, that poorly constructed teams should beat well constructed teams because "count the stars".

Some examples:

Lakers - Chamberlain, West, Baylor, old too
Bucks - Kareem, Oscar
Knicks - Frazier, Monroe, Reed, Debuschere
Lakers - Magic, Kareem, Worthy
76ers - Moses, Erving, Toney, Cheeks
Celtics - Bird, McHale, Parish
Rockets - Olajuwon, Drexler
Lakers - Shaq, Kobe
Spurs - Duncan, Robinson
Heat - Wade, Shaq
Celtics - Garnet, Pierce, Allen
Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh
Warriors - Curry, Klay, KD

[Homer38]

I don’t think even the biggest LeBron fans (myself included) would have ever thought LeBron would be come such a reliable shooter. On that same note who would’ve said that he would be playing like this at 40!

When he had his terrible stretch this year I was very active fighting against the washed claims. I really don’t know why he was so bad but it didn’t seem related to his actual ability that’s why I was confident he would get back to being Bron.

I’m glad I was right and I’m not saying this as a brag that I was right because I’m well aware the major decline is gonna happen at some point and I might be in denial then lol

The crazy thing,LeBron is at 45 3s away to surpass Reggie Miller in all-time 3 points make!

Nobody would predict that 5-10 years ago!

[trickshot]

Lebron did the Westbrook deal and we rightfully called him out but he also pushed for JJ which is looking like a homerun and if Bronny even remotely surpasses any 55th pick from the last 10 years we will be rightfully demanding reparations. Plus Luka is here now, revenge season is in session.

It's early and this is a team that employs LeBron Ramone James, luckily the trade deadline has passed.

yeah this was def the dude.

[dcstanley]

its early and this is lebron james who we have a 22 yr history of seeing how he gets players traded who dare to challenge him.. Luka quiet as kept has had players like dennis smith, porzingis, grant williams and recently tim hardaway jr shipped out for challenging him the same way

something gonna give.. just wait for it


also outside of dwight howard, or arguably a post hamstring cp3.. hardens list of forced traded teammates comes nowhere near the likes of those 2.. lebron has gotten more nba championship level coaches fired than harden could dream of, and according to tim macmahon rumor has it luka had rick carlisle fired lol


SOMETHING GOTTA GIVE

LeBron has gotten more nba championships than Harden could dream of* fixed it for you.

I know you’ll retort with some conspiracies or nonsensical coping, but I know it hurts you that your man-crush will never win a ring.

Your favorite QB also is a low IQ predator and multiple time criminal who gets passed team to team

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

It's a whose who of nba talent that he has played with, and now Luka Doncic after playing with arguably the best defensive center/forward in the game lol

Like what are we doing here. The comparison is garbage just off the lakers roster this year lol


Harden has played with kd and kyrie in 21' but harden damaged his hamstring and never been the same since. Even the biggest harden diehards will tell you that as he has yet to make an all-nba selection since that injury


Im talking about Luka and LeBron butting heads. Which if history is any indication that is pretty much a lock lol. Wait for the high leverage games in the playoffs and the lakers lose a game and LeBron tells rob to do something about "Luka" hogging the ball, and Rob tells LeBron and Klutch.. NO! Just watch, it's all great now but just wait for it


Remember we saw how LeBron wanted kyrie traded in 2017 for Eric Bledsoe lol, which was confirmed by cavs gm Adrian griffin lol. All it takes is one confrontation or "disagreement" just watch

Harden has played with KD, Russ, Dwight, CP3, Russ (again), KD (again), Kyrie, Embiid, Maxey, Kawhi, PG and has a grand total of one finals appearance.

[Heej]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Gonna be a real sad day for this kid when he hops off the 2k MyPlayer and finds out what injuries are.

[Homer38]

LeBron has gotten more nba championships than Harden could dream of* fixed it for you.

I know you’ll retort with some conspiracies or nonsensical coping, but I know it hurts you that your man-crush will never win a ring.

Your favorite QB also is a low IQ predator and multiple time criminal who gets passed team to team

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

It's a whose who of nba talent that he has played with, and now Luka Doncic after playing with arguably the best defensive center/forward in the game lol

Like what are we doing here. The comparison is garbage just off the lakers roster this year lol


Harden has played with kd and kyrie in 21' but harden damaged his hamstring and never been the same since. Even the biggest harden diehards will tell you that as he has yet to make an all-nba selection since that injury


Im talking about Luka and LeBron butting heads. Which if history is any indication that is pretty much a lock lol. Wait for the high leverage games in the playoffs and the lakers lose a game and LeBron tells rob to do something about "Luka" hogging the ball, and Rob tells LeBron and Klutch.. NO! Just watch, it's all great now but just wait for it


Remember we saw how LeBron wanted kyrie traded in 2017 for Eric Bledsoe lol, which was confirmed by cavs gm Adrian griffin lol. All it takes is one confrontation or "disagreement" just watch

Harden has played with KD, Russ, Dwight, CP3, Russ (again), KD (again), Kyrie, Embiid, Maxey, Kawhi, PG and has a grand total of one finals appearance.

and Harden had his first of his many all-time playoffs meltdown in his only finals appearance back in 2012

[Ian Scuffling]

And in Harden's lone trip to the finals, his team was beat by Lebron's team. LOL... This troll is persisitent at least. As for the teams that Lebron's team lost to in the finals, it is ONLY the Mavericks loss that is a legitimate troll point. That's it. But, I'm well aware that logic and consistency is not their strong point. And context? They've never even heard of the word.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Lots of people, most, know that stars make championship teams, more importantly than anything else, which is why most franchises try to get as many as they can.

Well constructed teams win championships. Stars, especially multiple stars are highly overrated as a championship factor, because people for some reason persist in believing, contrary to mountains of evidence, that poorly constructed teams should beat well constructed teams because "count the stars".

Some examples:

Lakers - Chamberlain, West, Baylor, old too
Bucks - Kareem, Oscar
Knicks - Frazier, Monroe, Reed, Debuschere
Lakers - Magic, Kareem, Worthy
76ers - Moses, Erving, Toney, Cheeks
Celtics - Bird, McHale, Parish
Rockets - Olajuwon, Drexler
Lakers - Shaq, Kobe
Spurs - Duncan, Robinson
Heat - Wade, Shaq
Celtics - Garnet, Pierce, Allen
Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh
Warriors - Curry, Klay, KD

Examples of what exactly. You're doing exactly what I'm talking about, listing stars and pretending like that's the whole story. It isn't. It's a team game.

Here's a list of stars: Shaq, Kobe, Malone, Payton. They lost to a team filled with non stars.
How about Durant, Harden Irving.
Pippen, Barkley, Olajuan.
The 80s Pistons beat teams on your list with just one star.
Phoenix right now has multiple stars and is floundering.

Depth matters. Fit matters. Coaching matters. Health matters. Familiarity matters.

[Ian Scuffling]

Trolls attempts have gotten getting weaker and dumber as the years have gone by. I guess when you have nothing, you truly have nothing. Can't wait for tonight's game. How is Luka going to do the Mavericks? Somebody needs to tape a Niko Harrison mask on his locker before the game

[thebigbird]

Imagine being able to be anything you want in life and deciding to become a James Harden fan.

[NBA4Lyfe]

LeBron has gotten more nba championships than Harden could dream of* fixed it for you.

I know you’ll retort with some conspiracies or nonsensical coping, but I know it hurts you that your man-crush will never win a ring.

Your favorite QB also is a low IQ predator and multiple time criminal who gets passed team to team

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

It's a whose who of nba talent that he has played with, and now Luka Doncic after playing with arguably the best defensive center/forward in the game lol

Like what are we doing here. The comparison is garbage just off the lakers roster this year lol


Harden has played with kd and kyrie in 21' but harden damaged his hamstring and never been the same since. Even the biggest harden diehards will tell you that as he has yet to make an all-nba selection since that injury


Im talking about Luka and LeBron butting heads. Which if history is any indication that is pretty much a lock lol. Wait for the high leverage games in the playoffs and the lakers lose a game and LeBron tells rob to do something about "Luka" hogging the ball, and Rob tells LeBron and Klutch.. NO! Just watch, it's all great now but just wait for it


Remember we saw how LeBron wanted kyrie traded in 2017 for Eric Bledsoe lol, which was confirmed by cavs gm Adrian griffin lol. All it takes is one confrontation or "disagreement" just watch

Harden has played with KD, Russ, Dwight, CP3, Russ (again), KD (again), Kyrie, Embiid, Maxey, Kawhi, PG and has a grand total of one finals appearance.

all of those teammates after 2021, mean nothing.. as harden was no longer not an mvp level impact player, he was no longer an all-nba level player either.. but of course you already knew that lol


im sure you are gonna mention harden making the all-star team this year, when he is currently having his worst season shooting and turnover wise since his rookie year

bottomline is harden after 2021 was not a star player and theres eveidence since he was no longer voted to an all-nba team

also westbrook during the 2020 season is one of the most flukish box-score number/ZERO impact seasons in league history. let me check real quick. LOL westbrook had a ws/48 of 0.98 lol, and had a total bpm of 1.4.. and this is a guy who was voted to the all-nba team, lol.. harden should have won mvp based of the vorp per game average alone

[NBA4Lyfe]

LeBron has a losing finals record lol, how is that possible when he has played with by far the most talent by an atg player in the history of the game

Gonna be a real sad day for this kid when he hops off the 2k MyPlayer and finds out what injuries are.

the same lebron fans that are still calling harden a choker post 2021.. when harden aint the same player impact wise

lol