Agreed. He plays the best defense in the league on Franz and it makes him tentative going to the basketthelead wrote:Mobley is in Franz' head
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Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:To think, we were basically on par with this team last year. They added pieces and got better, we basically did nothing and got worse. Great times to be a magic fan.
The best part is that Weltman's job is likely not even close to being in danger. Infuriating, really.
Two of their core guys got way better year over year and two of the Magic’s core guys got way worse.
Sometimes it’s just that simple.
Hence why standing pat sucks.
Progression isn’t linear, guys don’t always just level up every single season of their career. Rosters aren’t 100% healthy every season. Guys can fall off after they get paid. Lotto picks bust all the time.
I know a lot of us have thousands of posts on here but the realization that this organization isn’t serious about winning a title is a disappointing one. Seems like that changed somewhere between the Dwightmare, Rich DeVos’ health going downhill, and Martins becoming more involved.
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I really can’t stomach another team having a historic 3 pointer game against us. I’ll catch you guys on the next one, God willing.
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Why does Dell fall over so much now trying to rebound?
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bigdogdylan5 wrote:This summer is critical to the front office. They have painted themselves in to a corner it’s their job to fix this.
Now, this is the part where they make an extremely high risk move that compromises our future to try to save their jobs.
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Magic DRTG with Suggs 106.4 3rd in the NBA
Magic DRTG without Suggs 114 15th in the NBA
I mean that's it right there.
Magic DRTG without Suggs 114 15th in the NBA
I mean that's it right there.
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The fact that almost everyone on this forum could have predicted this outcome, shows just how much of a fool weltman and this front office is.
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OrlandoNed wrote:bigdogdylan5 wrote:This summer is critical to the front office. They have painted themselves in to a corner it’s their job to fix this.
Now, this is the part where they make an extremely high risk move that compromises our future to try to save their jobs.
That is what I'm scared of. They obviously feel pressure from the fans as they have referenced it in interviews. Make a big move to solidify a treadmill team and restart the tank in a few years would be so Magic.
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VFX wrote:They honestly deserve to be embarrassed on national TV. I’m not even joking.
They have been embarrassed on national TV like the last 5 times they have been on it.
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thelead wrote:Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:To think, we were basically on par with this team last year. They added pieces and got better, we basically did nothing and got worse. Great times to be a magic fan.
The best part is that Weltman's job is likely not even close to being in danger. Infuriating, really.
Two of their core guys got way better year over year and two of the Magic’s core guys got way worse.
Sometimes it’s just that simple.
they also got a huge coaching upgrade
And they've been very healthy too.
Last year Mitchell, Garland and Mobley combined to miss 82 games.
This year they've only missed 12 combined.
Ty Jerome only played 2 games last year because of ankle surgery. He's a favorite for 6th Man of the Year this year.
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I don’t wanna pay Paolo the max, and I don’t wanna pay Suggs 30mill. We’re in a tough spot
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This is what happens when you depend on the power of friendship instead of good coaching and elite players.
If you see something suspicious, say something suspicious.
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We would loose to Cavs bench players, no need to play starters much
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ibraheim718 wrote:Magic DRTG with Suggs 106.4 3rd in the NBA
Magic DRTG without Suggs 114 15th in the NBA
I mean that's it right there.
Suggs is the defense. No doubt.
Suggs being out isn't why we suck on offense though.

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Nice of Mose to tell them to hit threes there!
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Husky1 wrote:I don’t wanna pay Paolo the max, and I don’t wanna pay Suggs 30mill. We’re in a tough spot
You pay Paolo the max. Period. Suggs too.
What you don’t do is spend gazillions on chaff like KCP, inexplicably blow 2 lotto picks in the same draft and shove every 2nd round pick you have in your rear exit.
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Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:Knightro wrote:
Two of their core guys got way better year over year and two of the Magic’s core guys got way worse.
Sometimes it’s just that simple.
they also got a huge coaching upgrade
And they've been very healthy too.
Last year Mitchell, Garland and Mobley combined to miss 82 games.
This year they've only missed 12 combined.
Ty Jerome only played 2 games last year because of ankle surgery. He's a favorite for 6th Man of the Year this year.
And if we were healthy, do you think we would be 47-10 like the Cavs are?

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Well, Suggs is our volume 3 point shooter, only one we got reallythelead wrote:ibraheim718 wrote:Magic DRTG with Suggs 106.4 3rd in the NBA
Magic DRTG without Suggs 114 15th in the NBA
I mean that's it right there.
Suggs is the defense. No doubt.
Suggs being out isn't why we suck on offense though.
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Yep.... Watching this blow up in weltman's face may be the thing that wakes him up... Of course this is something we knew but executives making millions of dollars are oblivious toBlueBalls wrote:Husky1 wrote:I don’t wanna pay Paolo the max, and I don’t wanna pay Suggs 30mill. We’re in a tough spot
You pay Paolo the max. Period. Suggs too.
What you don’t do is spend gazillions on chaff like KCP, inexplicably blow 2 lotto picks in the same draft and shove every 2nd round pick you have in your rear exit.
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