2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1201 » by lessthanjake » Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:28 pm

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Dr Positivity wrote:I feel like wherever we have Durant on ATL we should drop him like 5 spots. He is one of the biggest cancers in top 30.

He's had some crazy unfortunate luck since leaving Golden State. As far as situations outside his control you can point to: Kyrie, COVID-19 mandates, Harden's extension, injuries, Ben Simmons, the botched summer of 2023 for Phoenix, and now the lingering effects of being a capped out team with an unmovable contract and next to no assets.

Kyrie was definitely not "bad luck" or outside of Durant's control. He chose to team up with a player who, at the time, was probably the most selfish and toxic diva in sports, who quit on a championship/perennial Finals team for the sake of his own ego and had just set the Celtics back several years. He blithely ignored all the glaring red flags with Kyrie and his own lack of any leadership abilities made things worse.

Listing COVID mandates is also a reach when everyone had to play under them. Again, he chose to play with the one diva in the NBA who felt he was above the rules. Some of the other stuff (like being stuck with Ben) is also downstream from his choice to play with Kyrie.

He's less to blame for the mess in Phoenix, but even then, a big reason why they're so screwed right now is because of how much they traded for him. And he's still demonstrating zero leadership ability. He doesn't appear to give a crap about winning anymore and that attitude has also rubbed off on Booker.


I don’t think it’s fair to say “He chose to play with Kyrie” as a way to justify an assertion that Durant himself is a team cancer. There’s definitely a difference between being a cancer yourself and choosing to be on a team with someone who is a cancer. The latter may arguably be bad decision-making, but it is not actually being a team cancer yourself.

All that said, I do think that there’s definitely meaningful circumstantial evidence that Durant himself tends to be a negative for team chemistry.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1202 » by parsnips33 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:26 pm

Jimmy Butler is Iguodala on tramadol
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Post#1203 » by migya » Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:08 am

parsnips33 wrote:Jimmy Butler is Iguodala on tramadol


Certainly working out so far. Could be one of the best moves in a while.
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Post#1204 » by BIGJ1ER » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:54 am

If only they made the butler move when they still had the cp3 contract to move, warriors just still feel too thin and small.

The melton injury is also a crippler, he's a perfect fit next to steph, and GP2 has severely declined post core injury/age stuff. Gone from a world class defender to just merely above average
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Post#1205 » by falcolombardi » Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:33 am

As wild as the ihart/chet duo feels in theory (and mostly in practice too, their defensive rating had been wild before tonight game) there may be rivals against which is a bad -defensive- idea to go too much with them together, which is usually the opposite of the common problem od double big lineups (losing offense)

Minnesota tonight without gobert played a pretty offense/shooting heavy center-less lineup and it seems to have messed up okc defense a lot, minny got lots of open 3's from harstentein cover specially

Against teams like that staggering them more and using harstentin in more of a super backup 20 mins role may be needed...maybe

I trust mark daigneault to figure out basketball defense stuff better than me tho
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Post#1206 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:29 pm

Knicks seem like the relatively non scary 2nd round exit.
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Post#1207 » by Special_Puppy » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:09 pm

Warriors are really intriguing. Curry+Butler and a bunch of great role players is on paper a really strong team.
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Post#1208 » by CKRT » Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:50 pm

So fair warning this will sound incredibly unhinged in the current political climate but since the Luka trade, I've been thinking that LeBron could maybe field the greatest white roster + black superstar ever.

Caruso / Reaves / Delly
Luka / Reaves / Korver / Caruso
LeBron / Luka / Miller / Korver
Love / LeBron / Varejao
Gasol / Big Z / Mozgov / Birdman

Insane guard and wing depth, big rotation is obviously the weakest point but they have enough size on the wings they could go 'small' and still annihilate teams on the boards and not give up much size at all. Team would be 10 deep with situational centers. I don't know how you find enough minutes for everyone at the 1,2, or 3. Obviously some of this is the insane length of LeBron's career and the international game blowing up compared to previous eras but still crazy how good this team would be.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1209 » by Verticality » Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:29 am

I don't think we're a conference finals team this year. Always being good but not enough frustrates.
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Post#1210 » by parsnips33 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:10 pm

The annual period of checking the standings every morning to see how the race out of the West play-ins is going is a ritual I really wish I didn't need to participate in lol

How the hell did the Wolves win that game
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Post#1211 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:19 pm

parsnips33 wrote:The annual period of checking the standings every morning to see how the race out of the West play-ins is going is a ritual I really wish I didn't need to participate in lol

How the hell did the Wolves win that game

Minnesota started trapping Shai and OKC missed like 105 open 3s in a row. Tbh they were all good looks, but I would have liked to see them get J-Dub involved to try and get something going to the basket. At a certain point you could see the misses were getting into people's heads.
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Post#1212 » by Jaqua92 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:33 am

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parsnips33 wrote:The annual period of checking the standings every morning to see how the race out of the West play-ins is going is a ritual I really wish I didn't need to participate in lol

How the hell did the Wolves win that game

Minnesota started trapping Shai and OKC missed like 105 open 3s in a row. Tbh they were all good looks, but I would have liked to see them get J-Dub involved to try and get something going to the basket. At a certain point you could see the misses were getting into people's heads.


Same thing happened in the in season tourney finals. When teams bring that intensity, they struggle... if I was an OKC fan, id be having doubts about getting to the finals.

They lack another ball handler and pick n roll player.

No other shot creators who can attack off the dribble.

I still think Denver will shock people. OKC won't even take them to 7.
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Post#1213 » by Special_Puppy » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:29 am

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parsnips33 wrote:The annual period of checking the standings every morning to see how the race out of the West play-ins is going is a ritual I really wish I didn't need to participate in lol

How the hell did the Wolves win that game

Minnesota started trapping Shai and OKC missed like 105 open 3s in a row. Tbh they were all good looks, but I would have liked to see them get J-Dub involved to try and get something going to the basket. At a certain point you could see the misses were getting into people's heads.


Same thing happened in the in season tourney finals. When teams bring that intensity, they struggle... if I was an OKC fan, id be having doubts about getting to the finals.

They lack another ball handler and pick n roll player.

No other shot creators who can attack off the dribble.

I still think Denver will shock people. OKC won't even take them to 7.


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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1214 » by jalengreen » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:28 am

What's the best passing duo ever? Wondering if LeBron/Luka are up there, even given that it's 40 yr old LeBron. Crazy passes every night
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Post#1215 » by AEnigma » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:06 am

I cannot think of another situation where two top ten all-time passers were starting on the same NBA team, save for maybe the 2018 Rockets… and that was hardly a highlight reel passing combination.

Jason Kidd did share the court with both Nash and KJ in 1998, so I would entertain them as the best trio, but that is a bit too early Nash for me to say it works as the best duo.
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Post#1216 » by Verticality » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:09 am

Turner out. Frustrating
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Post#1217 » by ronnymac2 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:33 am

jalengreen wrote:What's the best passing duo ever? Wondering if LeBron/Luka are up there, even given that it's 40 yr old LeBron. Crazy passes every night


Bird and Walton are up there in terms of court awareness, vision, and creativity.

Stockton and Jackson if you're especially valuing prolific assist men.

Technically, Oscar Robertson and Bob Cousy played like, seven games together.

I'd say yes, LAL's current duo is certainly up there.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1218 » by RCM88x » Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:07 pm

I'm just hoping we don't get Lakers-Nuggets in the first round for like the 6th year in a row.
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Post#1219 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:38 pm

As a Knicks fan, I'm greatly enjoying this season despite knowing we are a clear level below the true contenders. I just don't see anyway we can get by Boston in the 2nd round. These Boston beatdowns are demoralizing because it isn't just them being more talented but they also seem to match up terribly for NY. I wish we were in the CLE side of the bracket. Still hard but doesn't feel hopeless.

But I'm still loving this team.
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Post#1220 » by Special_Puppy » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:23 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:As a Knicks fan, I'm greatly enjoying this season despite knowing we are a clear level below the true contenders. I just don't see anyway we can get by Boston in the 2nd round. These Boston beatdowns are demoralizing because it isn't just them being more talented but they also seem to match up terribly for NY. I wish we were in the CLE side of the bracket. Still hard but doesn't feel hopeless.

But I'm still loving this team.


Knicks are going to have to face Boston eventually unless something really bizarre happens like them losing to the Pacers

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