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Post#21 » by James_Raptors » Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:57 pm

Naysorn wrote:Detroit is balling out rn. Last season they lost 30 in a row. A lot can change in a year.

IQ/Scottie/RJ/Ingram/Gradey + the rooks (Shead, Battle, Ja'Kobe, Mogbo) + the blue chipper (Chomche).

Pair that with a top-5 pick this year? Let's say Khaman Malauch. Oh man, oh man.

We're in a good spot right now. I think we'll be battling with Detroit/Orlando for future of the East very, very soon. Probably next year.

Just need to stay the course with the tank and not fall out of the bottom-5. Ideally, we could get to #4, but I think bottom-3 is out of reach now.

Prepare some new taglines. "We the North" needs a new modern twist.


Nice post. I get the sentiment.
But Chomche is not a blue chipper.
And God help us if we take Maluach 5th.
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Post#22 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:02 pm

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This summer, if we were to sign a 32-year old, a 28-year old and trade a young player for another 32-yeard old, you guys would lose your sh*t. And that's exactly what the Pistons did, which has led to their resurgence (signing Tobias, Malik, and trading Grimes for THJ).


Yeah you so right. Detroit definitely had their resurgence from those guys.

Nothing to do with this

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Of course it helps to have an ALl Star, but Tobias has played the 2nd most minutes on that team. The 3 vets I mentioned are 3 of their top 5 players in MPG.

And no **** Cade is a big deal. But would he be having this season if they were still starting Stewart + Hayes/Ausar instead of Hardaway/Harris/ **** no.

Not to mention Beasley has been amazing there. Hopefully this off-season we can find our own version of that where we grab a vet on the low who way overperforms. I like Shead, but Tyus Jones would be a great get for a backup.

Ty Jerome would be an interesting grab as a starter to if there was an IQ deal and we needed a replacement
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Post#23 » by NBA Sheady » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:12 pm

Naysorn wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:I mean, I love the optimism.

But Chomche is a blue chipper?

Damn right he is. I'm really high on the kid.

The physical tools, the ability to move fluidly at 7'0, how quickly he learns the game, the effort he puts in... I'm going to reserve my actual thoughts on how much star potential I think he has, but yes he is.


Curious because I haven't been paying attention. What are we seeing him learn?
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Post#24 » by elecblue » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:18 pm

You have to add Poeltl. Currently constructed, he is the most irreplaceable player on this team by far.

I hate how much our ceiling is tied to the ping pong balls few months from now, but damn it I’m really to roll next season. Tanking sucks. Good luck to us!
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Duffman100 wrote:I mean, I love the optimism.

But Chomche is a blue chipper?

Damn right he is. I'm really high on the kid.

The physical tools, the ability to move fluidly at 7'0, how quickly he learns the game, the effort he puts in... I'm going to reserve my actual thoughts on how much star potential I think he has, but yes he is.


Curious because I haven't been paying attention. What are we seeing him learn?

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Post#26 » by Naysorn » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:24 pm

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Naysorn wrote:Detroit is balling out rn. Last season they lost 30 in a row. A lot can change in a year.

IQ/Scottie/RJ/Ingram/Gradey + the rooks (Shead, Battle, Ja'Kobe, Mogbo) + the blue chipper (Chomche).

Pair that with a top-5 pick this year? Let's say Khaman Malauch. Oh man, oh man.

We're in a good spot right now. I think we'll be battling with Detroit/Orlando for future of the East very, very soon. Probably next year.

Just need to stay the course with the tank and not fall out of the bottom-5. Ideally, we could get to #4, but I think bottom-3 is out of reach now.

Prepare some new taglines. "We the North" needs a new modern twist.


Nice post. I get the sentiment.
But Chomche is not a blue chipper.
And God help us if we take Maluach 5th.

im not gonna act like a draft expert that was just a name ive heard
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Post#27 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:24 pm

elecblue wrote:You have to add Poeltl. Currently constructed, he is the most irreplaceable player on this team by far.

I hate how much our ceiling is tied to the ping pong balls few months from now, but damn it I’m really to roll next season. Tanking sucks. Good luck to us!

Not just ping pong balls... the pick has to hit to. The odds of that happening are lower than people want to admit to.
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Post#28 » by Naysorn » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:26 pm

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elecblue wrote:You have to add Poeltl. Currently constructed, he is the most irreplaceable player on this team by far.

I hate how much our ceiling is tied to the ping pong balls few months from now, but damn it I’m really to roll next season. Tanking sucks. Good luck to us!

Not just ping pong balls... the pick has to hit to. The odds of that happening are lower than people want to admit to.

dawg our FO took a bad draft like last year and turned 2nd rounders into future winning nba rotation pieces

we'll be fine. drafting and development are our franchise's best attributes.
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Post#29 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:27 pm

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ArthurVandelay wrote:Raptors next year will be better than the Pistons this year.
Raptors next year will also be better than the Pistons next year.

As a bonus forecast: BI will be all-NBA if he plays 65+ games.


I was told Raptors will be the next OKC. Who said that again?


I'm not sure about that comparison. But another forecast: OKC will be better than Toronto....next year 8-)
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Post#30 » by Quattro » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:53 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Naysorn wrote:Detroit is balling out rn. Last season they lost 30 in a row. A lot can change in a year.

IQ/Scottie/RJ/Ingram/Gradey + the rooks (Shead, Battle, Ja'Kobe, Mogbo) + the blue chipper (Chomche).

Pair that with a top-5 pick this year? Let's say Khaman Malauch. Oh man, oh man.

We're in a good spot right now. I think we'll be battling with Detroit/Orlando for future of the East very, very soon. Probably next year.

Just need to stay the course with the tank and not fall out of the bottom-5. Ideally, we could get to #4, but I think bottom-3 is out of reach now.

Prepare some new taglines. "We the North" needs a new modern twist.


Trust what process? Detroit built their teams from sucking for several years and getting 5th picks + 1st overall pick. It's nothing like how Masai has built our team, which is refusal to bottom out and tank. Why would you expose yourself to such blatant error?


We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?
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Post#31 » by Naysorn » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:58 pm

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DelAbbot wrote:
Naysorn wrote:Detroit is balling out rn. Last season they lost 30 in a row. A lot can change in a year.

IQ/Scottie/RJ/Ingram/Gradey + the rooks (Shead, Battle, Ja'Kobe, Mogbo) + the blue chipper (Chomche).

Pair that with a top-5 pick this year? Let's say Khaman Malauch. Oh man, oh man.

We're in a good spot right now. I think we'll be battling with Detroit/Orlando for future of the East very, very soon. Probably next year.

Just need to stay the course with the tank and not fall out of the bottom-5. Ideally, we could get to #4, but I think bottom-3 is out of reach now.

Prepare some new taglines. "We the North" needs a new modern twist.


Trust what process? Detroit built their teams from sucking for several years and getting 5th picks + 1st overall pick. It's nothing like how Masai has built our team, which is refusal to bottom out and tank. Why would you expose yourself to such blatant error?


We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?

yeah his post doesnt make sense cause we have scottie barnes who was a top-5 pick and a top-5 on the way

RJ and ingram were both #2

plus our FO is good at development so i trust our picks at #10 more than detroit at #5. detroit has missed on a lot of top picks. ausar and cade hit, but a lot of others didnt.
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Post#32 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:59 pm

Quattro wrote:
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Naysorn wrote:Detroit is balling out rn. Last season they lost 30 in a row. A lot can change in a year.

IQ/Scottie/RJ/Ingram/Gradey + the rooks (Shead, Battle, Ja'Kobe, Mogbo) + the blue chipper (Chomche).

Pair that with a top-5 pick this year? Let's say Khaman Malauch. Oh man, oh man.

We're in a good spot right now. I think we'll be battling with Detroit/Orlando for future of the East very, very soon. Probably next year.

Just need to stay the course with the tank and not fall out of the bottom-5. Ideally, we could get to #4, but I think bottom-3 is out of reach now.

Prepare some new taglines. "We the North" needs a new modern twist.


Trust what process? Detroit built their teams from sucking for several years and getting 5th picks + 1st overall pick. It's nothing like how Masai has built our team, which is refusal to bottom out and tank. Why would you expose yourself to such blatant error?


We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?


Nah just complaining endlessly.
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Post#33 » by DelAbbot » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:00 pm

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Trust what process? Detroit built their teams from sucking for several years and getting 5th picks + 1st overall pick. It's nothing like how Masai has built our team, which is refusal to bottom out and tank. Why would you expose yourself to such blatant error?


We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?


Nah just complaining endlessly.


You are all denying we will end this season around 8-9th
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Post#34 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:06 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Quattro wrote:
We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?


Nah just complaining endlessly.


You are all denying we will end this season around 8-9th


I still don't think we will. I'm seeing 5-7th right now.
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Post#35 » by Brinbe » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:26 pm

Detroit are just beating expectations and are a feel-good story turning things around after last season and their past few years of being absolute garbage, but that optimism is often short-lived. Look at the Kings last year and where they are now. The Pistons will be in that spot soon where the tide turns once again once their build shows signs of stalling out, and it probably will until Langdon makes some big deal to pair Cade with another star.
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Post#36 » by DelAbbot » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:51 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Nah just complaining endlessly.


You are all denying we will end this season around 8-9th


I still don't think we will. I'm seeing 5-7th right now.


I'm being realistic. We will see by season's end.
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Post#37 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:58 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
You are all denying we will end this season around 8-9th


I still don't think we will. I'm seeing 5-7th right now.


I'm being realistic. We will see by season's end.


To finish 8th, one of Chicago or SA has to catch us
To finish 9th, both would have catch us.

A 5 and 7 game lead on them with not much left (despite our easy schedule). It's unlikley. Possible sure, but not realistic.
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Post#38 » by ontnut » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:58 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Quattro wrote:
We literally have the 5th worst record in the NBA today. Do you ever even try to make sense?


Nah just complaining endlessly.


You are all denying we will end this season around 8-9th

What's "around" 8-9th?
Is 5th around 8th?
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Post#39 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:59 pm

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Post#40 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:04 pm

Naysorn wrote:
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elecblue wrote:You have to add Poeltl. Currently constructed, he is the most irreplaceable player on this team by far.

I hate how much our ceiling is tied to the ping pong balls few months from now, but damn it I’m really to roll next season. Tanking sucks. Good luck to us!

Not just ping pong balls... the pick has to hit to. The odds of that happening are lower than people want to admit to.

dawg our FO took a bad draft like last year and turned 2nd rounders into future winning nba rotation pieces

we'll be fine. drafting and development are our franchise's best attributes.

Sure, but it doesn't mean they are infallible. There are a number of reasons a player can bust, a lot of them outside an organizations control.

Like even if we pick 5. History shows the 5th pick is more often than not a fairly average NBA rotation player. That is just the reality.
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