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2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#701 » by winsomme2 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:10 pm

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winsomme2 wrote:I find Ian Jackson difficult to assess. He definitely does not create for his teammates at UNC but his ball handling skills make me think that he could develop that part of his game as a pro. I love his ability to attack the rim and make shots but I agree he is limited at the moment by not showing an ability to get assists...

I think one of the bigger misconceptions I'm seeing from folks with this year's draft class is that Ian Jackson can't create for teammates.

I'm not saying he's elite at it, but I don't really consider it much of a weakness.

First off, he's a scorer. That's his job, and the main thing he's in there to do is score. And usually, with younger players (who are only freshmen) who are *this* good at scoring (especially if they're athletic, can handle the ball, drive to the basket and shoot it well from the perimeter), chances are they aren't great passers.

With all players, they progress differently. Some are good shooters and later on (like sophomore/junior year or maybe not till they get to the NBA), they'll improve their defense. Some guys are good passers but can't shoot. A freshman probably isn't going to be good at everything..and if they are, they're probably going to be a top 5 pick.

Any prospect still there when we're picking in like the 28-40 range will of course have some areas where they aren't so great.

Secondly, I do think Jackson's passing is a bit underrated, as I touch on here:

https://the-center-hub.com/2025/01/14/prospect-evaluation-ian-jackson/

Lastly, assists can be a misleading stat. A guy can make a good pass to keep the offense flowing early on in the possession but then he might not happen to be the last guy who passes the ball that possession so doesn't get the assist..maybe he gets a hockey assist (which I've sene a few times this season from jackson) but those aren't recorded anywhere. Or maybe he makes a good pass but his teammate drops the ball and turns it over, or misses an open shot or has a good look near the basket but gets fouled - in any of those scenarios, the player doesn't get an assist.

For my part I know very little about the guy, he's more an example of an archetype. And again, what I am saying isn't about can a SG create a scoring opportunity once or thrice a game, but is the guy capable of being an actual PG/ball handler.

And if the answer to the latter is no, then several years of transactions say they don't value this type much at all. guy has to be able to check other boxes, like being able to guard the 1 and/or the 3 consistently and effectively.


The honest answer for me with Ian Jackson running an offense is that we just don't know. He certainly isn't doing it now so you'd have to project it based on skills. Like Hal mentioned, he's a scorer because that's what his team needs him to be and he's really good at it.

For me, ball handling is essential and honestly it is a diminished skill in the NBA right now. There aren't many players that I can say are elite ball handlers.

As for Jackson, he definitely piques my interest because he not only can handle the ball but can do so through heavy traffic. Again like Hal mentioned, he does show an ability to create for teammates at times just not his main focus.

Scouting is so important with guys like this who aren't currently playing like the player you would hope for them to become as a pro. One question would be, does he have a work ethic like JB and will relentlessly work at his game as a pro or will he more focus on the stuff he is already good at because that's what he likes...?

One thing we aren't mentioning here is his defense. He definitely shows flashes of being a really good defender. Overall, I would not be at all disappointed with him if Brad targeted him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#702 » by phincsfan » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:25 pm

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phincsfan wrote:If the C's end up with the 28th slot and Boogie or Labaron are still on the board when they pick I would be VERY HAPPY :nod:

In the end it comes down to a full team effort, but when I watch PG's who can drive against us I always wish we had one of those toys.

Maxey, Brunson, Kyrie, Mitchell are fun to watch them slice and dice.


I like guards who relentlessly attack the rim too. It's more of an old school type player that disappeared some during the surge of threes but is starting to make a comeback.

I grew up on the playground legends like Iverson, Marbury, kenny Anderson....and truth be told, I've was ecstatic when we traded for Kyrie and really am still bothered by how that all turned out.

I would love for the Cs to have a player with that skillset and have been watching more footage of the players you mentioned.

Have you watched Xaivian Lee? He's a really fun watch and has that old school game.


I see a G-League all star in Lee at best
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#703 » by winsomme2 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:48 pm

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phincsfan wrote:If the C's end up with the 28th slot and Boogie or Labaron are still on the board when they pick I would be VERY HAPPY :nod:

In the end it comes down to a full team effort, but when I watch PG's who can drive against us I always wish we had one of those toys.

Maxey, Brunson, Kyrie, Mitchell are fun to watch them slice and dice.


I like guards who relentlessly attack the rim too. It's more of an old school type player that disappeared some during the surge of threes but is starting to make a comeback.

I grew up on the playground legends like Iverson, Marbury, kenny Anderson....and truth be told, I've was ecstatic when we traded for Kyrie and really am still bothered by how that all turned out.

I would love for the Cs to have a player with that skillset and have been watching more footage of the players you mentioned.

Have you watched Xaivian Lee? He's a really fun watch and has that old school game.


I see a G-League all star in Lee at best


It will be a difficult transition physically in the NBA for sure and agree that it could end up not working out for him. Finding the right team will be important for him IMO.

For college though, he's very entertaining to watch.
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Post#704 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:57 pm

I haven’t been big on the concept of trading up in this draft coming up. You know, I thought trading down in 2023 was the right move to replenish the seconds.
I thought the Baylor Scheierman pick was fine, his limited rookie yr mins have exposed his lack of athleticism, but he still may be okay. But maybe he’s gonna be JR Giddens, he’ll be 25 years next fall.

This upcoming draft, we’ve got #28 + #31 and I’m starting to think we need to target a higher level prospect and try to move up and get a prospect with a higher probability of being an impact player.

Six weeks ago, I was 100% just make two picks to take two swings. Now I’m like let’s MOVE UP, try to get to #16 or something where a draft night slider may be available. We need AN ACTUAL GUY, like this years Podz, Jaquez, Whitmore type.
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Post#705 » by Hal14 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:44 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:I haven’t been big on the concept of trading up in this draft coming up. You know, I thought trading down in 2023 was the right move to replenish the seconds.
I thought the Baylor Scheierman pick was fine, his limited rookie yr mins have exposed his lack of athleticism, but he still may be okay. But maybe he’s gonna be JR Giddens, he’ll be 25 years next fall.

This upcoming draft, we’ve got #28 + #31 and I’m starting to think we need to target a higher level prospect and try to move up and get a prospect with a higher probability of being an impact player.

Six weeks ago, I was 100% just make two picks to take two swings. Now I’m like let’s MOVE UP, try to get to #16 or something where a draft night slider may be available. We need AN ACTUAL GUY, like this years Podz, Jaquez, Whitmore type.

Maybe..but at the same time:

a) we don't really have any playing time available to give some rookie with 0 NBA experience, so why the urgency to trade up, why this big need for AN ACTUAL GUY, when we have probably the deepest, most talented roster in the league, with our top 9 rotation players set in stone

b) Whitmore kind of sucks, POdz and Jaquez are both cooling off this season after strong rookie campaigns. These guys are not studs.

Meanwhile, solid players who went pick 27 or later, or didn't even get drafted: Gobert, Time LOrd, Pritchard, Brunson, Butler, Jokic, Middleton, Hauser, Kornet, D-white, Bane, etc. Meanwhile guys like James Bouknight, Johnny Davis and Romeo Langford all went in the lottery.

It just takes good scouting and player development (and a little bit of luck) to find gems at pick 27 or later.

Teams with this kind of talent and depth, coming off an NBA title typically do not trade up to get a higher 1st round pick.
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Post#706 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:13 pm

Hal14 wrote:Maybe..but at the same time:

a) we don't really have any playing time available to give some rookie with 0 NBA experience, so why the urgency to trade up, why this big need for AN ACTUAL GUY, when we have probably the deepest, most talented roster in the league, with our top 9 rotation players set in stone

I think, the luxury tax makes playing guys on rookie deals more critical. Maybe a guy only plays 400 minutes as a rookie, but 2nd year it’s 1000 minutes, 3rd year 1500. I use Christian Braun in Denver as the example he’s in year four, making $3 million and first in minutes for Nuggs this year, just ahead of Jokic. But Cason Wallace, Dereck Lively are two other recent examples of dollar-cost production on rookie salary. Three years ago Jordan Poole was that guy for the Warriors.

Our top nine guys may not all be back. Some are getting old, some are free agents and could leave, and some may be cost cutting victims.

Hal14 wrote: b) Whitmore kind of sucks, POdz and Jaquez are both cooling off this season after strong rookie campaigns. These guys are not studs.

But that level of prospect can be had late teens but may not last to #28. Just using example of guys who slide out of the lottery but not past 25, there have historically been those Kawhi Leonard, Danny Granger, Rajon Rondo blue chip type of prospects who, because of team needs or interviews or intel or whatever, slip on draft night but don’t tend to last past that late-teen range.

Hal14 wrote: Meanwhile, solid players who went pick 27 or later, or didn't even get drafted: Gobert, Time LOrd, Pritchard, Brunson, Butler, Jokic, Middleton, Hauser, Kornet, D-white, Bane, etc. Meanwhile guys like James Bouknight, Johnny Davis and Romeo Langford all went in the lottery.

It just takes good scouting and player development (and a little bit of luck) to find gems at pick 27 or later.

Teams with this kind of talent and depth, coming off an NBA title typically do not trade up to get a higher 1st round pick.

Yes, I agree with this. But our talent evaluation has been lousy lately. I’m not feeling confident, given what we’ve seen, that our scouts and front office will pick the gems. I’d rather get higher in the draft where maybe there is a more obviously translatable type of talent.

Like, I think our front office could nail a pick if a Tari Eason-type of guy slipped to us. I think we’d whiff on a Giannis or Brunson type of guy because that players path to success is more of an outlier path and so harder to foresee. Fundamentally, the archetypes our front office will consider drafting sort of necessitates getting higher up in the draft because we’re never drafting a Gobert or RobWill or Middleton under this regime. I don’t think we’d take a Rondo or an Eddie House type of guy either.

If you only want proven shooters with size and defensive versatility, you need to just get higher up in the draft…

Then again, I like making multiple picks because I like more bites at the apple too…lol
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Post#707 » by 165bows » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:54 pm

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Post#708 » by Hal14 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:23 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Maybe..but at the same time:

a) we don't really have any playing time available to give some rookie with 0 NBA experience, so why the urgency to trade up, why this big need for AN ACTUAL GUY, when we have probably the deepest, most talented roster in the league, with our top 9 rotation players set in stone

I think, the luxury tax makes playing guys on rookie deals more critical. Maybe a guy only plays 400 minutes as a rookie, but 2nd year it’s 1000 minutes, 3rd year 1500. I use Christian Braun in Denver as the example he’s in year four, making $3 million and first in minutes for Nuggs this year, just ahead of Jokic. But Cason Wallace, Dereck Lively are two other recent examples of dollar-cost production on rookie salary. Three years ago Jordan Poole was that guy for the Warriors.

Our top nine guys may not all be back. Some are getting old, some are free agents and could leave, and some may be cost cutting victims.

Hal14 wrote: b) Whitmore kind of sucks, POdz and Jaquez are both cooling off this season after strong rookie campaigns. These guys are not studs.

But that level of prospect can be had late teens but may not last to #28. Just using example of guys who slide out of the lottery but not past 25, there have historically been those Kawhi Leonard, Danny Granger, Rajon Rondo blue chip type of prospects who, because of team needs or interviews or intel or whatever, slip on draft night but don’t tend to last past that late-teen range.

Hal14 wrote: Meanwhile, solid players who went pick 27 or later, or didn't even get drafted: Gobert, Time LOrd, Pritchard, Brunson, Butler, Jokic, Middleton, Hauser, Kornet, D-white, Bane, etc. Meanwhile guys like James Bouknight, Johnny Davis and Romeo Langford all went in the lottery.

It just takes good scouting and player development (and a little bit of luck) to find gems at pick 27 or later.

Teams with this kind of talent and depth, coming off an NBA title typically do not trade up to get a higher 1st round pick.

Yes, I agree with this. But our talent evaluation has been lousy lately. I’m not feeling confident, given what we’ve seen, that our scouts and front office will pick the gems. I’d rather get higher in the draft where maybe there is a more obviously translatable type of talent.

Like, I think our front office could nail a pick if a Tari Eason-type of guy slipped to us. I think we’d whiff on a Giannis or Brunson type of guy because that players path to success is more of an outlier path and so harder to foresee. Fundamentally, the archetypes our front office will consider drafting sort of necessitates getting higher up in the draft because we’re never drafting a Gobert or RobWill or Middleton under this regime. I don’t think we’d take a Rondo or an Eddie House type of guy either.

If you only want proven shooters with size and defensive versatility, you need to just get higher up in the draft…

Then again, I like making multiple picks because I like more bites at the apple too…lol

I mean, Hauser is arguably better than Braun..and we got Hauser as an UDFA..whereas Braun was the 21st pick.

We also signed Strus as an UDFA..we then waived him to keep Tacko Fall and Javonte Green, but that was Ainge's move. Based on Brad's history of getting guys like Hauser, Drew Peterson, Joe Wieskamp, Taylor Funk, Baylor Scheierman (basically every tall shooter he can get his hands on) I think if it was Brad in charge back then, he keeps Strus on the team. And Strus is perhaps better than a guy like Corey Kispert, who was the 15th pick in the draft.
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Post#709 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:00 pm

Hauser is a great piece and a great find, but the idea of moving up in the draft is you’re hoping for a crack at finding the next Al Horford, Derrick White or Jrue Holiday starting level piece, who can grow with JT over the next five plus years. If you can nab an Alperen Segun, Jalen Johnson or Trey Murphy type of young piece, that’d be the dream of trading up
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Post#710 » by phincsfan » Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:06 pm



Foot injuries and athletes (especially big men) are a red flag IMO. I can't really find any details on it though. I've seen "turf toe" and the date of the injury as 2/15.

I bet he stays in school and collects another year of NIL money.
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Post#711 » by winsomme2 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:48 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Hauser is a great piece and a great find, but the idea of moving up in the draft is you’re hoping for a crack at finding the next Al Horford, Derrick White or Jrue Holiday starting level piece, who can grow with JT over the next five plus years. If you can nab an Alperen Segun, Jalen Johnson or Trey Murphy type of young piece, that’d be the dream of trading up


Tyrese Maxey is another good example. A higher level prospect in the mid teens that might not be there later…. I definitely hear what you’re saying.

I do love the late first/early second rounders though too.

It really comes down to scouting. If they see someone that could become the next Maxey or Sengun, I wouldn’t have a problem with them moving up but there are also great finds where we are now too.

Just gotta pick the right one…
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Post#712 » by winsomme2 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 1:56 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Hauser is a great piece and a great find, but the idea of moving up in the draft is you’re hoping for a crack at finding the next Al Horford, Derrick White or Jrue Holiday starting level piece, who can grow with JT over the next five plus years. If you can nab an Alperen Segun, Jalen Johnson or Trey Murphy type of young piece, that’d be the dream of trading up


Just for discussion a good example in this draft at the moment is Jeremiah Fears vs. Ian Jackson.

Fears is routinely slotted in the mid-teens and Jackson is more late first/early second.

Would it be worth the Cs trading up for Fears or staying where you are and getting two players at 28/31 and potentially getting Ian Jackson in the process...

You can see how important scouting is for something like this.
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Post#713 » by Hal14 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:35 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Hauser is a great piece and a great find, but the idea of moving up in the draft is you’re hoping for a crack at finding the next Al Horford, Derrick White or Jrue Holiday starting level piece, who can grow with JT over the next five plus years. If you can nab an Alperen Segun, Jalen Johnson or Trey Murphy type of young piece, that’d be the dream of trading up


Just for discussion a good example in this draft at the moment is Jeremiah Fears vs. Ian Jackson.

Fears is routinely slotted in the mid-teens and Jackson is more late first/early second.

Would it be worth the Cs trading up for Fears or staying where you are and getting two players at 28/31 and potentially getting Ian Jackson in the process...

You can see how important scouting is for something like this.

I know it was just an example you were throwing out there but I highly doubt we would trade up for Fears.

Brad seems to hate small guards..and he has shown a strong preference (especially over the past 12 months or so) for guys who can shoot.

Fears is a small guard who struggles from deep.
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Post#714 » by winsomme2 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:19 pm

Anybody know anything about Bennett Stirtz?

I hadn’t heard his name before but then just saw him as a first round pick on a mock draft.
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Post#715 » by winsomme2 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:29 pm

Hal14 wrote:
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redslastlaugh wrote:Hauser is a great piece and a great find, but the idea of moving up in the draft is you’re hoping for a crack at finding the next Al Horford, Derrick White or Jrue Holiday starting level piece, who can grow with JT over the next five plus years. If you can nab an Alperen Segun, Jalen Johnson or Trey Murphy type of young piece, that’d be the dream of trading up


Just for discussion a good example in this draft at the moment is Jeremiah Fears vs. Ian Jackson.

Fears is routinely slotted in the mid-teens and Jackson is more late first/early second.

Would it be worth the Cs trading up for Fears or staying where you are and getting two players at 28/31 and potentially getting Ian Jackson in the process...

You can see how important scouting is for something like this.

I know it was just an example you were throwing out there but I highly doubt we would trade up for Fears.

Brad seems to hate small guards..and he has shown a strong preference (especially over the past 12 months or so) for guys who can shoot.

Fears is a small guard who struggles from deep.


Yeah was more just an exercise of looking at players who will be gone by our pick and comparing them to players that should still be available.

That said, I kinda like Fears. Looks like a big time shot maker. His three point shot looks pretty smooth and FT shooting is solid so I could see him improving his 3pt percentage. He also has tremendous burst and ball handling.
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Post#716 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:14 pm

Sam Vecenie big board yesterday. Not a mock, but I'd kinda hate if it went this way since I agree and most of my guys are gone by 28. I might go Adou Thiero in this scenario. I tried, but I can't fully get the "if they could only shoot" guys off my list, lol.

1: Cooper Flagg
2: Dylan Harper
3: Ace Bailey
4: V.J. Edgecombe
5: Kasparas Jakucionis
6: Kon Knueppel
7: Liam McNeeley
8: Derik Queen
9: Collin Murray-Boyles
10: Tre Johnson
11: Jase Richardson
12: Khaman Maluach
13: Asa Newell
14: Nolan Traore
15: Ben Saraf
16: Thomas Sorber
17: Jeremiah Fears
18: Hugo Gonzalez
19: Carter Bryant
20: Rasheer Fleming
21: Egor Demin
22: Noah Penda
23: Joan Beringer
24: Miles Byrd
25: Danny Wolf
26: Johni Broome
27: Noa Essengue
28: Kam Jones
29: Labaron Philon
30: Alex Karaban
31: Alex Toohey
32: Sergio De Larrea
33: Bogoljub Markovic
34: Adou Thiero
35: Nique Clifford
36: JoJo Tugler
37: Tyrese Proctor
38: Braden Smith
39: Ryan Kalkbrenner
40: Max Shulga
41: Isaiah Evans
42: Ian Jackson
43: Boogie Fland
44: Cedric Coward
45: Milos Uzan
46: Tahaad Pettiford
47: Walter Clayton Jr.
48: K.J. Lewis
49: Will Riley
50: Alex Condon
51: Rocco Zikarsky
52: Jamir Watkins
53: Chaz Lanier
54: Wesley Yates III
55: Josh Dix
56: Tomislav Ivisic
57: Hunter Sallis
58: Ben Henshall
59: Dink Pate
60: Darrion Williams
61: Ryan Conwell
62: Yaxel Lendeborg
63: Sion James
64: Maxime Raynaud
65: Alijah Martin
66: Terrance Arceneaux
67: Anthony Robinson
68: Johann Grunloh
69: Michael Ruzic
70: Kadary Richmond
71: J.T. Toppin
72: Micah Peavy
73: Eric Dailey Jr.
74: Chase Hunter
75: Mark Sears
76: Jaland Lowe
77: Xaivian Lee
78: Dailyn Swain
79: Vladislav Goldin
80: Hansen Yang
81: Donovan Dent
82: John Tonje
83: Andrej Stojakovic
84: Nolan Winter
85: Brooks Barnhizer
86: Amari Williams
87: Joshua Jefferson
88: R.J. Luis
89: Koby Brea
90: Izan Almansa
91: Thomas Haugh
92: Zvonimir Ivisic
93: Otega Oweh
94: Ryan Nembhard
95: Eric Dixon
96: Neoklis Avdalas
97: Desmond Claude
98: John Poulakidas
99: Jaxson Robinson
100: Payton Sandfort
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Post#717 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:29 pm

djFan71 wrote:30: Alex Karaban

Karaban shooting splits following some bad nights from field are now 43%/34%/82% on the year. It’s tough to get excited about him with these percentages. If Karaban ends the season <37% from 3, I don’t see him going first round, and, after taking Baylor Scheierman, I can’t see the Celtics drafting him.
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Post#718 » by brackdan70 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:44 pm

djFan71 wrote:Sam Vecenie big board yesterday. Not a mock, but I'd kinda hate if it went this way since I agree and most of my guys are gone by 28. I might go Adou Thiero in this scenario. I tried, but I can't fully get the "if they could only shoot" guys off my list, lol.

1: Cooper Flagg
2: Dylan Harper
3: Ace Bailey
4: V.J. Edgecombe
5: Kasparas Jakucionis
6: Kon Knueppel
7: Liam McNeeley
8: Derik Queen
9: Collin Murray-Boyles
10: Tre Johnson
11: Jase Richardson
12: Khaman Maluach
13: Asa Newell
14: Nolan Traore
15: Ben Saraf
16: Thomas Sorber
17: Jeremiah Fears
18: Hugo Gonzalez
19: Carter Bryant
20: Rasheer Fleming
21: Egor Demin
22: Noah Penda
23: Joan Beringer
24: Miles Byrd
25: Danny Wolf
26: Johni Broome
27: Noa Essengue
28: Kam Jones
29: Labaron Philon
30: Alex Karaban
31: Alex Toohey
32: Sergio De Larrea
33: Bogoljub Markovic
34: Adou Thiero
35: Nique Clifford
36: JoJo Tugler
37: Tyrese Proctor
38: Braden Smith
39: Ryan Kalkbrenner
40: Max Shulga
41: Isaiah Evans
42: Ian Jackson
43: Boogie Fland
44: Cedric Coward
45: Milos Uzan
46: Tahaad Pettiford
47: Walter Clayton Jr.
48: K.J. Lewis
49: Will Riley
50: Alex Condon
51: Rocco Zikarsky
52: Jamir Watkins
53: Chaz Lanier
54: Wesley Yates III
55: Josh Dix
56: Tomislav Ivisic
57: Hunter Sallis
58: Ben Henshall
59: Dink Pate
60: Darrion Williams
61: Ryan Conwell
62: Yaxel Lendeborg
63: Sion James
64: Maxime Raynaud
65: Alijah Martin
66: Terrance Arceneaux
67: Anthony Robinson
68: Johann Grunloh
69: Michael Ruzic
70: Kadary Richmond
71: J.T. Toppin
72: Micah Peavy
73: Eric Dailey Jr.
74: Chase Hunter
75: Mark Sears
76: Jaland Lowe
77: Xaivian Lee
78: Dailyn Swain
79: Vladislav Goldin
80: Hansen Yang
81: Donovan Dent
82: John Tonje
83: Andrej Stojakovic
84: Nolan Winter
85: Brooks Barnhizer
86: Amari Williams
87: Joshua Jefferson
88: R.J. Luis
89: Koby Brea
90: Izan Almansa
91: Thomas Haugh
92: Zvonimir Ivisic
93: Otega Oweh
94: Ryan Nembhard
95: Eric Dixon
96: Neoklis Avdalas
97: Desmond Claude
98: John Poulakidas
99: Jaxson Robinson
100: Payton Sandfort

JT Toppin has really fallen out of favor. I’d consider him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#719 » by 165bows » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:03 pm

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djFan71 wrote:30: Alex Karaban

Karaban shooting splits following some bad nights from field are now 43%/34%/82% on the year. It’s tough to get excited about him with these percentages. If Karaban ends the season <37% from 3, I don’t see him going first round, and, after taking Baylor Scheierman, I can’t see the Celtics drafting him.

He’s an interesting case, should he have his stock discounted and by how much. Counter point is he had a head injury sometime around Christmas and his shooting fell off after that, is he a guy you can grab at a discount due to a slump.

Other piece is is he just struggling as the main guy compared to how he was killing it as part of an elite team. That could go either way considering his role here.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#720 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:49 pm

I've never been on the Karaban caravan, but wouldn't hate it if we picked him. Like Toppin as well. Thiero, Jackson, Nique, JoJo, Proctor. Still some decent choices left.

If it fell that way I'd either trade up, or out of 28. 27 or above on his list i'd pick at 28. I can even talk myself into being excited about Kam on some days, but need to be convinced on the D.

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