2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

[wadenation305]

Seems Phoenix fell apart after getting Beal. Heat dodged a bullet there with that stat guy.

Some people here were still talking themselves into him just a few weeks ago.

[carnageta]

Butler / Warriors are still in the honeymoon phase. All the fans love him over there for the time being because they're winning. They are a better team with the Wiggins / Jimmy swap but they have too high expectations for him now. When Curry isn't scorching hot and Jimmy isn't able to drop a cool 35+ to carry them to a win, they'll begin hating him too lol. He's not Kevin Durant and right now many Warriors fan think Jimmy is capable of replicating that offensive production if Curry is off.

Playoff Jimmy is the real deal, but we've never actually seen that level of play sustained for the course of anything longer than 4-5 weeks (and there's a really good reason for that - hint: Jimmy can't keep up that level of production without sacrificing his body and getting hobbled).

[Beenie]

Jimmy hate narratives havent cooled off yet eh

[BadMofoPimp]

One Warrior fans analysis of Jimmy last night. One reply stated they expect 20+ the next 2 games from Jimmy.

Jimmy did NOT want the ball in this Orlando game.

People praised him for facilitating, passing. He was passing the ball even when not pressured, like no double coming and he once panicked and threw to a Magic player who was guarding someone beyond the arc.

There was one or two possessions where he had Anthony on him instead of Issac or some other longer wing. He didn't even try to take him.

One time he dribbled into the lane and he had a wide open pull-up from like 5 feet but he kept going trying to get to the rim and someone prevented that.

Seems reluctant to shoot unless it's a layup. He did attempt a couple of 3s but was way off. Maybe something messed up with his hands or shoulders.

Teams are going to get wise and not worry about doubling or hedging towards him.

[Vertical Limit]

This is what id give up for Durant

Andrew Wiggins
JJJ
Duncan Robinson


We trade our long term contract in wiggins, and we take in a year rental of durants expiring deal.

I've give up Jaime, Niko, Duncan, Rozier (expiring - PHX can move him again at ASB), a 2025 1st, future 2nd if we have available.

That's the most I would do. If it isn't enough I'd move on and wouldn't feel bad about it.

I doubt phoenix takes thatbut it would be cool if we somehow end up keeping wiggins, herro ware and bam.. and adding durant..

Herro
Wiggins
durant
Bam
ware

With davion as a sixth man.. you can fill the rest of the roster… thats a deep team with a lot of length

[Kobewade11]

I've give up Jaime, Niko, Duncan, Rozier (expiring - PHX can move him again at ASB), a 2025 1st, future 2nd if we have available.

That's the most I would do. If it isn't enough I'd move on and wouldn't feel bad about it.

I doubt phoenix takes thatbut it would be cool if we somehow end up keeping wiggins, herro ware and bam.. and adding durant..

Herro
Wiggins
durant
Bam
ware

With davion as a sixth man.. you can fill the rest of the roster… thats a deep team with a lot of length

In this hypothetical I think it would be more likely Mitchell starts, Wiggins goes to 6th man, and the lineup you posted probably closes games

[MorbidHEAT]

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Randomly denying a grown ass man the opportunity to indulge in some cookies is crazy work. Doing it to a guy that takes care of himself as much as Lebron did at that time, and probably still does today, is insane.

I agree. But if true, u can look at it this way. If you allow your best player to eat junk food on a team plane, u gotta allow other players to do the same. You can't have two different sets of rules. That's the culture. I'm sure he didn't care about LeBron, who spends millions on his body to stay in the best shape, indulging in some cookies in his private time n space. Looks stupid, I agree. But I wouldn't say insane when the whole team is about the "Culture"

I see what you’re saying, but I think It’s kinda nuts any way you look at it because you already have measures in place to monitor food consumption. If you eat 10 chocolate chip cookies a week but you can still pass the body fat and fitness tests, then what are they actually doing by taking that man’s cookies? If he fails the body fat test, that is where you set the example for the rest of the team.

[oreon]

Randomly denying a grown ass man the opportunity to indulge in some cookies is crazy work. Doing it to a guy that takes care of himself as much as Lebron did at that time, and probably still does today, is insane.

I agree. But if true, u can look at it this way. If you allow your best player to eat junk food on a team plane, u gotta allow other players to do the same. You can't have two different sets of rules. That's the culture. I'm sure he didn't care about LeBron, who spends millions on his body to stay in the best shape, indulging in some cookies in his private time n space. Looks stupid, I agree. But I wouldn't say insane when the whole team is about the "Culture"

I see what you’re saying, but I think It’s kinda nuts any way you look at it because you already have measures in place to monitor food consumption. If you eat 10 chocolate chip cookies a week but you can still pass the body fat and fitness tests, then what are they actually doing by taking that man’s cookies? If he fails the body fat test, that is where you set the example for the rest of the team.

I agree. I know their physical condition is directly linked to their performance as athletes. But I find it weird treating grown men with children like toddlers. I think the other measures are more effective rather than being super control freak. If the player has a low fat index, great conditioning & cardio and is performing at a high level, let him have his cookies.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Pat Riley took away Lebron’s cookies and Michael Finley took away Luka’s Coors Light.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Duncan is going to extend at 9 mil per next year that allows the team to resign Mitchell and stay under the line. It will mirror the Buddy Hield deal. Rozier, Anderson, and JJJ will be fished in trade for some more upgrades.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Need Dipo simply for the vibes.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Need Dipo simply for the vibes.

No open roster spaces.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Need Dipo simply for the vibes.

No open roster spaces.

Cut one of the bums

[marson]

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The schedule ahead looks manageable, and I can see us finishing the year with a 17-6 record, bringing us to 45-37. Given Spo's track
record of succeeding with less talent in the past, it's definitely within reach.

Or maybe just talking out my ass and just end up 7-15 record, and final standing goes 37-45 and just squeak into play-ins.

[SA37]

Duncan is going to extend at 9 mil per next year that allows the team to resign Mitchell and stay under the line. It will mirror the Buddy Hield deal. Rozier, Anderson, and JJJ will be fished in trade for some more upgrades.

Outside for a move for Durant, this seems plausible. It kind of depends on who is available between now and then.

Duncan has improved his game, but Miami could certainly upgrade from him with guys like THJ or Malik Beasley for similar money. Similarly, Miami could upgrade from D Mitchell, but it depends on who becomes available either via FA or trade.

[al bondiga]

Seems Phoenix fell apart after getting Beal. Heat dodged a bullet there with that stat guy.

Some people here were still talking themselves into him just a few weeks ago.

I still think he would have been a super great addition.
But on a different contract Than what he got
To me beal a 2-3 time allstar after he joined the heat from Washington.

baaddd Decision beal

[MettaWorldPanda]

Duncan is going to extend at 9 mil per next year that allows the team to resign Mitchell and stay under the line. It will mirror the Buddy Hield deal. Rozier, Anderson, and JJJ will be fished in trade for some more upgrades.

Outside for a move for Durant, this seems plausible. It kind of depends on who is available between now and then.

Duncan has improved his game, but Miami could certainly upgrade from him with guys like THJ or Malik Beasley for similar money. Similarly, Miami could upgrade from D Mitchell, but it depends on who becomes available either via FA or trade.

We don’t have free agent money to spend next year and allowing Duncan to walk via the ETO makes no sense either since it will leave dead money of 10 mil on the cap. It’s an easy negotiation ploy to renegotiate with Duncan at the starting figure of his guaranteed 9 mil ETO guaranteed figure. I think the organization considers him a lifer and he’ll most likely be game for this. He’s also one of the top performers at Pat Riley’s wife parties lol.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Duncan is going to extend at 9 mil per next year that allows the team to resign Mitchell and stay under the line. It will mirror the Buddy Hield deal. Rozier, Anderson, and JJJ will be fished in trade for some more upgrades.

Outside for a move for Durant, this seems plausible. It kind of depends on who is available between now and then.

Duncan has improved his game, but Miami could certainly upgrade from him with guys like THJ or Malik Beasley for similar money. Similarly, Miami could upgrade from D Mitchell, but it depends on who becomes available either via FA or trade.

We don’t have free agent money to spend next year and allowing Duncan to walk via the ETO makes no sense either since it will leave dead money of 10 mil on the cap. It’s an easy negotiation ploy to renegotiate with Duncan at the starting figure of his guaranteed 9 mil ETO guaranteed figure. I think the organization considers him a lifer and he’ll most likely be game for this. He’s also one of the top performers at Pat Riley’s wife parties lol.

The Heat LOVE Duncan and he has the most chemistry with our best player. I can only see him moved if he’s salary is an absolute must for a star

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?