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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#61 » by thelead » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:34 am

rcklsscognition wrote:He clearly hyperextended his knee with no contact to his thigh yet they said it was a thigh contusion and didn’t even bother to scan it? They don’t have a freaking MRI in the building or nearby? Can’t afford it? What a joke.

We all called it once we saw the replay during the game. How incompetent can the staff really be?
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Post#62 » by KillMonger » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:51 am

man this is really starting to look like the entire operation is incompetent
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#63 » by drsd » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:53 am

We have this for Suggs:
Isolated trochlear fracture in adults is rare


Which followed this for Banchero and then F-Wagner:
Uncommon external abdominal oblique muscle strain
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#64 » by drsd » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:57 am

rcklsscognition wrote:I said it a dozen times the org was lying about his thigh contusion they knew it all along it was a knee injury despite what they say from my guy inside that told me about Franz being healthy. F this team lying sacks of s****


It does seem probable that the Magic did do an MRI (or some other scan) on the leg "a long time ago".

Given that teams own their own MRIs, I would be surprised if all players get a monthly full body scan. Why not.
Multiple MRI scans over a lifetime pose no known long-term health risks.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#65 » by drsd » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:00 am

basketballRob wrote:The Magic are going to be in the waiver market now for a guard. Reminds me of when Jameer went down and we brought in Skip to my Lou.

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Post#66 » by drsd » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:20 am

JF5 wrote:I think they initially diagnosed it as a contusion because it had all the symptoms of a contusion without the Scan. But once he got back onto the court and he still had pain they did the scan and probably caught it in a more comprehensive look.

From what im understanding of this it's a very uncommon and very broad injury. He'll probably be fine long term. But it looks like hes definitely not coming back this season.


To put some dates on this: Suggs went down on Jan 3 and sat ten games. He came back a game where he was not obviously injured new (we all took his 16 minutes played as "minutes restriction"), and sat again from Jan 27. That is when the Magic would have started a battery of tests. There is no way that's not true.

That means the Magic must have know what this injury is for about a month.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#67 » by CarraT » Sat Mar 1, 2025 9:22 am

Can we please rename our franchise to „Orlando Pathetic“?
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CarraT wrote:Can we please rename our franchise to „Orlando Pathetic“?

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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#69 » by I Rasharted » Sat Mar 1, 2025 12:12 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:On the bright side, Jeff gets to use the injury excuse for another year and extend his "evaluation" of the roster.

Ayep. It also tanks whatever trade value Suggs had.

No idea what to think of his actual injury or how long it'll take to come back. Hopefully he comes back sooner than later and at full strength.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#70 » by Skybox » Sat Mar 1, 2025 12:26 pm

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basketballRob wrote:The Magic are going to be in the waiver market now for a guard. Reminds me of when Jameer went down and we brought in Skip to my Lou.

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Post#71 » by Fortune Teller » Sat Mar 1, 2025 12:36 pm

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for Jeff to sign someone to replace Suggs for the remainder of the season.
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Post#72 » by cedric76 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 12:41 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for Jeff to sign someone to replace Suggs for the remainder of the season.


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Post#73 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Mar 1, 2025 12:41 pm

I finally found a doctor who questions what he thinks Suggs injury actually is because there is no such thing as a Trochlea Injury. How can the Magic be this vague? The closest thing he thinks is something like what Lonzo Ball had.

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Post#74 » by Bergmaniac » Sat Mar 1, 2025 1:16 pm

Awful news, I hope he makes a full recovery.

And to the suprise to nobody, the Magic were dishonest again with their injury reporting. I knew things were more serious than a "quad contusion".
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Post#75 » by drsd » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:00 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I finally found a doctor who questions what he thinks Suggs injury actually is because there is no such thing as a Trochlea Injury. How can the Magic be this vague? The closest thing he thinks is something like what Lonzo Ball had.



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Very informative. This is my go-to guy for medical podcasts, and this one was thus super believable!

But: "PRP" is mentioned a bunch without explanation. So I looked that up. If major surgery is the worst case here, the best case is thus:
Platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection is a biologic therapy that can stimulate healing and enhance repair in certain injuries. PRP often is referred to as an orthobiologic, since it is obtained from a patient’s own blood and centrifuged to increase the concentration of platelets to treat orthopaedic injuries and conditions. PRP injection may be a good alternative treatment in the management of tendon, ligament, muscle, and/or cartilage injury.

A PRP treatment is a relatively simple process: The doctor will draw blood then use a centrifuge to produce PRP. PRP contains a mixture of concentrated platelets, including cytokines and growth factors, and has anti-inflammatory properties. The PRP is injected into an injury site to stimulate the healing process. It can also be injected during a surgical process to augment healing and speed recovery.

PRP has been used for years to treat professional athletes and is now increasingly used to help active adolescents and adults with sports and other orthopaedic injuries.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#76 » by CocoaFan » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:05 pm

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JF5 wrote:I think they initially diagnosed it as a contusion because it had all the symptoms of a contusion without the Scan. But once he got back onto the court and he still had pain they did the scan and probably caught it in a more comprehensive look.

From what im understanding of this it's a very uncommon and very broad injury. He'll probably be fine long term. But it looks like hes definitely not coming back this season.


To put some dates on this: Suggs went down on Jan 3 and sat ten games. He came back a game where he was not obviously injured new (we all took his 16 minutes played as "minutes restriction"), and sat again from Jan 27. That is when the Magic would have started a battery of tests. There is no way that's not true.

That means the Magic must have know what this injury is for about a month.
Reports said he was running at practice but no contact. Why would they let him run if they knew. Doesn't make sense.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#77 » by Skybox » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:23 pm

drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I finally found a doctor who questions what he thinks Suggs injury actually is because there is no such thing as a Trochlea Injury. How can the Magic be this vague? The closest thing he thinks is something like what Lonzo Ball had.



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Very informative. This is my go-to guy for medical podcasts, and this one was thus super believable!

But: "PRP" is mentioned a bunch without explanation. So I looked that up. If major surgery is the worst case here, the best case is thus:
Platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection is a biologic therapy that can stimulate healing and enhance repair in certain injuries. PRP often is referred to as an orthobiologic, since it is obtained from a patient’s own blood and centrifuged to increase the concentration of platelets to treat orthopaedic injuries and conditions. PRP injection may be a good alternative treatment in the management of tendon, ligament, muscle, and/or cartilage injury.

A PRP treatment is a relatively simple process: The doctor will draw blood then use a centrifuge to produce PRP. PRP contains a mixture of concentrated platelets, including cytokines and growth factors, and has anti-inflammatory properties. The PRP is injected into an injury site to stimulate the healing process. It can also be injected during a surgical process to augment healing and speed recovery.

PRP has been used for years to treat professional athletes and is now increasingly used to help active adolescents and adults with sports and other orthopaedic injuries.


PRP is not a miracle cure or surgical alternative. It accelerates healing naturally but it’s far from guaranteed (ever). More like “let’s try this first- hopefully, it works”. It also initiates healing and takes weeks to help…just a targeted injection of a concentrated dose of your own healing “powers” drawn out of your blood. It’s definitely not …”There you go- that’ll be the end of that” :o Hopefully, they’ve determined that it’s going to heal, but PRP will help the odds and, perhaps, the time away.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#78 » by three3d » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:37 pm

https://youtu.be/blzUKrmPvwk?si=PrsqMj9wKilH_PLq
2 years ago left knee injured October 7, 2022

https://youtu.be/eIhk-7729tQ?si=BzlSX3SrWN0FNh4
Game two vs Cavs last season left knee injury

Call me crazy but I’m wondering if Suggs had already had a misdiagnosed injury to the left knee. Things just don’t add up as he’s clearly had 3 injuries to that knee already. The first video up from October 7th 2022 calls the injury a “knee capsular sprain” and all the stuff from that diagnosis sounds related to what’s going on now.
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Re: Suggs out indefinitely with a trochlea injury in his left knee 

Post#79 » by pepe1991 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:55 pm

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drsd wrote:
JF5 wrote:I think they initially diagnosed it as a contusion because it had all the symptoms of a contusion without the Scan. But once he got back onto the court and he still had pain they did the scan and probably caught it in a more comprehensive look.

From what im understanding of this it's a very uncommon and very broad injury. He'll probably be fine long term. But it looks like hes definitely not coming back this season.


To put some dates on this: Suggs went down on Jan 3 and sat ten games. He came back a game where he was not obviously injured new (we all took his 16 minutes played as "minutes restriction"), and sat again from Jan 27. That is when the Magic would have started a battery of tests. There is no way that's not true.

That means the Magic must have know what this injury is for about a month.
Reports said he was running at practice but no contact. Why would they let him run if they knew. Doesn't make sense.


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Post#80 » by rcklsscognition » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:22 pm

Suggs’ IG story he writes “I’ll brb”

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