Bulls vs Raptors 7pm CT Feb. 28 2025

[Dan Z]

10th seed looking secure with an incoming pick in the 8-9 range. Mission accomplished!

I’n not what some of you are complaining about. We aren’t going to lose every single game the rest of season. I guess you all don’t care how well some of our young players(mainly Giddey) already on the team are playing. It’s all about extra 2 or 3 percent chance to move up in the lottery.

No Zach. No Vuc. We are being competitive solely on back young players and guy who had not played in 2 seasons. Give me a break!

Competitive? 10th place and 3-7 in the last ten games. 24 total wins (.400).

It's great that Giddey is doing well, but the reason why some of us want to tank is because we're thinking beyond this season. The team is going nowhere this year and needs to add as much talent as it can going forward.

IF Giddey is the Bulls best player next year how far do you think they'll go?

[Muzbar]

This'll be a W for the Bulls.

Ha! Knew it.

I said earlier in the season this team was aiming for the play-in, trading LaVine didn't change that.

We are 2-7 since trading Lavine. And one was an overtime win against one of the few worse teams. The Bulls can’t make the whole putrid East play better.

The Bulls have been in the play-in spot for, pretty much, the entire season. They'll continue to play for the play-in because in the eyes of the front office, this is a good thing because the 'young players' got them there. But is being a 30 win (best case scenario) play-in team really a good thing? For ownerships bank accounts, absolutely it is.

It's just so crazy that if the play-in started today, the Bulls would have the final spot and the 8th pick in the draft (before the lottery).

[Muzbar]

10th seed looking secure with an incoming pick in the 8-9 range. Mission accomplished!

I’n not what some of you are complaining about. We aren’t going to lose every single game the rest of season. I guess you all don’t care how well some of our young players(mainly Giddey) already on the team are playing. It’s all about extra 2 or 3 percent chance to move up in the lottery.

No Zach. No Vuc. We are being competitive solely on back young players and guy who had not played in 2 seasons. Give me a break!

Competitive? 10th place and 3-7 in the last ten games. 24 total wins (.400).

It's great that Giddey is doing well, but the reason why some of us want to tank is because we're thinking beyond this season. The team is going nowhere this year and needs to add as much talent as it can going forward.

IF Giddey is the Bulls best player next year how far do you think they'll go?

I think he means competitive during games, which for the most part is correct, they've been in games almost to the end.

I really hope they move some more players before next season, next years draft could possibly be the best draft class since 2003.

I'm fine with Giddey being the teams best player next season with an improved Matas, but get rid of Vuc, Coby and Pat if you can (and potentially Lonzo).

[WesPeace]

Why was that call on Coby in last second of RT so late? Ref didnt blow the whistle until ball dropped into bucket.. seemed very sus

[CROBulls]

Another fake win under out belt. Two games you need to lose this year was 76ers and Raptors and ofcourse you win both.

I beg you Bulls fans, stop going to games and stop watching this franchise on tv. If you really wanna watch it because for some reason you like this, you watch streams from you know what sites. You can do it.

[Jeffster81]

Don't care about the game. I still lmao that there is a player name Gradey Dick. I know I am out of touch with the NBA. Joey Freshwater and Ron Mexico are impressed.

[Dez]

Why was that call on Coby in last second of RT so late? Ref didnt blow the whistle until ball dropped into bucket.. seemed very sus

Shouldn't have been a whistle in the first place, Coby leaned into the defender.

F***ing refs giving us favourable calls.

[BullChit]

Why was that call on Coby in last second of RT so late? Ref didnt blow the whistle until ball dropped into bucket.. seemed very sus

Shouldn't have been a whistle in the first place, Coby leaned into the defender.

F***ing refs giving us favourable calls.

l

Tin foil hat and cope time.

The NBA want us in the Play In for business purposes BUT when we lose and still end up in the lottery it will be rigged to give us a top 3 pick because they NBA want us to do better for business purposes...

Meaning the Bulls front office get to have their cake and eat it too...

/end tinfoil hat and cope.

[Ice Man]

Febru-Giddey isn't good for the tank. But shrug, it's not as if we would benefit by having all of our young players disappoint. This is fine -- as long as it's not just a one-month flash.

[Jcool0]

Good news is Bulls should lose next 5

[Stratmaster]

I think there is only one person here that would be happy with that.

Disagree, Bulls fans get pumped up about the play-in every year. They'll never get it and this is why Reinsdorf is allowed to keep this franchise in NBA Hell

I said on here. Not the general fan base.

I would be pumped about the play-in if we had any good players and a head coach that knew what he was doing. But the 3 best players the team had are all gone with nothing in return other than Giddey, and Billy is still here.

You think Heat fans were pumped about the play-in?

[Infinity2152]

Disagree, Bulls fans get pumped up about the play-in every year. They'll never get it and this is why Reinsdorf is allowed to keep this franchise in NBA Hell

I said on here. Not the general fan base.

I would be pumped about the play-in if we had any good players and a head coach that knew what he was doing. But the 3 best players the team had are all gone with nothing in return other than Giddey, and Billy is still here.

You think Heat fans were pumped about the play-in?

That's a pretty pessimistic look at our current squad. Would argue Vuc and Lonzo Ball could either/both slot in as 2 of our best 3 players, and they're still here. We got Giddey for trading a bench player. We got a likely lottery first round pick back plus our future picks unlocked for Lavine, plus Collins and Huerter, that's not nothing. Collins is looking good and Huerter's picking it up. As for no good players, Matas, Coby, Smith, Ball, Vucevic are good players depending on what metric you're using. Ayo's been a good player, and could recover. We have probably one contract that could be considered bad, and that's only $18 mill. Huerter and Colins TBD.

Billy should be here. Purpose of a coach is to get the team wins, and not a lot of coaches getting many more wins out of this team with the injuries and poor defensive lineups the last few years and your best playmaker is Debo. You try starting White, Lavine, Debo and Vuc and trying to get your team to stay in games defensively, lmao! Every coach gets their decisions micromanaged by fans, wins are what counts. A team being at/near .500 with maybe the worst defensive starting lineup in the league has to be tough.

[ChettheJet]

Victory snatched from jaws of defeat, the Raptors collectively choked big time. With the rotation they have they really shouldn't be losing to a sub .500 Bulls team.

I think the Bulls, some fans anyway, need to look at TOR and see that just assembling talent isn't enough. They will look like an even better team when Ingram can play next to Barrett, Barnes, Quickley with blue collar Poeltl, then Dick and Robinson coming off the bench. While Quickley can put up numbers what the Raptors really lack is floor leadership and with no veteran presence anywhere else you have to look at the PG position. Up 16 points in the 4th quarter they needed someone to take control of their offense and settle things down so they didn't rush, ran some clock, just got a decent shot and crash the boards against a much smaller defense. But they just don't have that guy to slow everything down and control all the talent they had out there to bring home a win.

Adding Ingram isn't going to do that either. Then they'll have 4 guys surrounding Poeltl seeing their chance to get points and look good in a big win and they'll end up with another loss.

The Bulls with Lonzo, Giddey, Ayo and even Coby have players who understand pace with a lead and time management when a wide open 3 with 16 seconds on the shot clock isn't as good as a layup with 5 seconds left.

[cocktailswith_2short]

I wouldn't call what Toronto has assembled talent . It's Scottie Barnes and that's about it .

[Infinity2152]

I wouldn't call what Toronto has assembled talent . It's Scottie Barnes and that's about it .

So you're really saying Brandon Ingram, Quickley, and RJ Barrett don't count as talented? Their draft status, contracts and stats would disagree.

This season:
Barrett 21, 6, and 6 33 minutes 35% 3pt
Ingram 22, 6, and 5 33 minutes 37% 3pt
Quickley 17, 3 and 5 in 28 minutes 38% 3pt

Barnes 20, 8 and 6 in 35 minutes on 27% 3pt

How is Barnes a tier above the other guys?

We would LOVE to have 3 guys 25 and under, and one 27 year old, putting up those numbers. And they all have good size and athleticism.

[cocktailswith_2short]

I wouldn't call what Toronto has assembled talent . It's Scottie Barnes and that's about it .

So you're really saying Brandon Ingram, Quickley, and RJ Barrett don't count as talented? Their draft status, contracts and stats would disagree.

Barrett 21, 6, and 6 this year 33 minutes 35% 3pt
Ingram 22, 6, and 5 33 minutes 37% 3pt
Quickley 17, 3 and 5 in 28 minutes 38% 3pt
Barnes 20, 8 and 6 in 35 minutes on 27% 3pt

How is Barnes a tier above the other guys?

That core can't even sniff a playoff spot in the putrid east . Draft status and pay rate mean little to me look exhibit a :pat williams .

[Chi town]

Ha! Knew it.

I said earlier in the season this team was aiming for the play-in, trading LaVine didn't change that.

We are 2-7 since trading Lavine. And one was an overtime win against one of the few worse teams. The Bulls can’t make the whole putrid East play better.

The Bulls have been in the play-in spot for, pretty much, the entire season. They'll continue to play for the play-in because in the eyes of the front office, this is a good thing because the 'young players' got them there. But is being a 30 win (best case scenario) play-in team really a good thing? For ownerships bank accounts, absolutely it is.

It's just so crazy that if the play-in started today, the Bulls would have the final spot and the 8th pick in the draft (before the lottery).

We all know it’s Huerter and Collins that are helping a ton.

AK could have traded both Coby and Vuc at the deadline and he didn’t. He’s committed in his eyes to competing mediocrity.

[Chi town]

Coby doing Coby things… Damn it!!!

[Infinity2152]

I wouldn't call what Toronto has assembled talent . It's Scottie Barnes and that's about it .

So you're really saying Brandon Ingram, Quickley, and RJ Barrett don't count as talented? Their draft status, contracts and stats would disagree.

Barrett 21, 6, and 6 this year 33 minutes 35% 3pt
Ingram 22, 6, and 5 33 minutes 37% 3pt
Quickley 17, 3 and 5 in 28 minutes 38% 3pt
Barnes 20, 8 and 6 in 35 minutes on 27% 3pt

How is Barnes a tier above the other guys?

That core can't even sniff a playoff spot in the putrid east . Draft status and pay rate mean little to me look exhibit a :pat williams .

Chet just talked about that above. That's the fallacy here. It takes more than accumulation of talent to win. That team has a Lonzo Ball or Giddey in place of either one of those 4, they win more games. And not because Giddey and Ball are more talented. Who's running the offense for the Raptors? Now that Siakam is gone, who's the defensive leader? 23 year old Barnes? Where's the paint protection? Your main guy, the one you're saying is the only talent, shoots threes worse than Giddey. You have a bunch of talented, really young guys, out there just playing against teams that are more veteran, balanced, and consistent. Going to lose a lot of games.

Pat Williams got $18 mill. Barnes got $44 mill, Ingram's at $38 mill, Quickley's at $33 mill. That's not even the same ballpark. Barrett's at $26 mill, he'd get more than that if he was free agent right now.

[WindyCityBorn]

10th seed looking secure with an incoming pick in the 8-9 range. Mission accomplished!

I’n not what some of you are complaining about. We aren’t going to lose every single game the rest of season. I guess you all don’t care how well some of our young players(mainly Giddey) already on the team are playing. It’s all about extra 2 or 3 percent chance to move up in the lottery.

No Zach. No Vuc. We are being competitive solely on back young players and guy who had not played in 2 seasons. Give me a break!

Competitive? 10th place and 3-7 in the last ten games. 24 total wins (.400).

It's great that Giddey is doing well, but the reason why some of us want to tank is because we're thinking beyond this season. The team is going nowhere this year and needs to add as much talent as it can going forward.

IF Giddey is the Bulls best player next year how far do you think they'll go?

I meant the games have been competitive. I don’t care how many games we win next season. We are rebuilding now.