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Post#101 » by vvoland » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:44 am

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vvoland wrote:Jk was 35% from deep for the last month before his injury. If he can keep it in that range, podz's shooting is less important if his floor game (and defense) continues to shine

It will be nearly 60 days and 25 missed games before JK is active for a game again. He's going to have a lot of rust, little stamina, and no game legs. His 3-pt shot will revert to the mean. And please don't have JK shoot corner 3s. He's 30.3% on corner 3s so far this season.


So weird how his shooting splits break out. If I remember correctly, he was 20% from one corner and 40% from the other.
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Post#102 » by Onus » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:49 am

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Great points. Podz shot has definitely started trended down again. Although he is still shooting it with confidence and he’s playing great basketball all-around. And I think Kerr also wants Steph with Buddy if possible, but prefers Podz as the better all-around player… which is sort of why we have seen Steph be the guy that plays with Buddy and the 2nd unit more often than not.

I think either way the minutes breakdown stays about the same. Podz will get close to 30 minutes as a starter or reserver. Buddy around 20 depending on if the shot is going in. And more importantly, they are both important parts of the consistent rotation (also Moody, JK, etc).

Podz was given a ton of grenades this game. Jimmy wasn't even attacking which forced Podz to more self creation against set defenses which he hasn't thrived in.

One of my fears about having to trust podz in a big spot is he hasn't shot well in clutch situations and I don't really trust him shooting wide open shots. Which we will obviously need.

This was always my biggest thing about acquiring Jimmy. I don't think his game is matchup proof. He didn't have great games against Denver in the finals and I'm worried about how he's going to be able to attack the lakers plethora of larger wings.


No one is matchup proof but Jimmy is close, especially if his shot ever returns. I'm watching the clippers attack Luka, sporadically, and when they do, they get whatever they want. Jimmy hunting Luka in the playoffs is something I'll enjoy watching. Especially as much as Luka likes to foul + Jimmy's ability to draw them.

Re: podz, I agree. Against the magic, he got a bunch of grenades but, on balance, his shot just doesn't fall, outside that one stretch around January. If he can't find it, he may become harder to fit in lineups with Jimmy and dray, unless those two start shooting it from deep, which both have in the past. Jk was 35% from deep for the last month before his injury. If he can keep it in that range, podz's shooting is less important if his floor game (and defense) continues to shine

Yea we should be able to hunt Luka but the lakers are still playing good defense behind him. Jimmy likes to use strength. The one thing Luka has is strength.

Podz is going to get a lot of minutes moving forward but he does so much on the court it really is so odd that the one thing everyone thought he was coming into the league (shooter) is the one thing that’s really holding him back from exploding.
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Re: Could it be Magic? 

Post#103 » by Zvaart » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:13 am

thunderdunk wrote:This was a game won by Steph and QP. Butler, Moses, Dray, and Podz (the other four starters) shot 8-32 in the game. And Buddy was 1-5. Without Steph and QP, this is a bad loss. QP led the team with +22. Not bad for a late 2nd rounder. Sad that Podz can't shoot the 3 as well as our BU center. But, on the positive side, QP is really impressing at this point.


And kerr. He was good this time with in-game adjustments.

It was strange to hear the mvp chants when curry was shooting his last fts of the game.these orlando guys really love Him.


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Post#104 » by vvoland » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:21 am

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Onus wrote:Podz was given a ton of grenades this game. Jimmy wasn't even attacking which forced Podz to more self creation against set defenses which he hasn't thrived in.

One of my fears about having to trust podz in a big spot is he hasn't shot well in clutch situations and I don't really trust him shooting wide open shots. Which we will obviously need.

This was always my biggest thing about acquiring Jimmy. I don't think his game is matchup proof. He didn't have great games against Denver in the finals and I'm worried about how he's going to be able to attack the lakers plethora of larger wings.


No one is matchup proof but Jimmy is close, especially if his shot ever returns. I'm watching the clippers attack Luka, sporadically, and when they do, they get whatever they want. Jimmy hunting Luka in the playoffs is something I'll enjoy watching. Especially as much as Luka likes to foul + Jimmy's ability to draw them.

Re: podz, I agree. Against the magic, he got a bunch of grenades but, on balance, his shot just doesn't fall, outside that one stretch around January. If he can't find it, he may become harder to fit in lineups with Jimmy and dray, unless those two start shooting it from deep, which both have in the past. Jk was 35% from deep for the last month before his injury. If he can keep it in that range, podz's shooting is less important if his floor game (and defense) continues to shine

Yea we should be able to hunt Luka but the lakers are still playing good defense behind him. Jimmy likes to use strength. The one thing Luka has is strength.

Podz is going to get a lot of minutes moving forward but he does so much on the court it really is so odd that the one thing everyone thought he was coming into the league (shooter) is the one thing that’s really holding him back from exploding.



I don't trust that defense, at all. Looking at the last month where they are "the number one defense in the league" as I keep hearing on podcasts and outside of Denver, I can't find a good team. Indy without Turner and the two clipper wins, sure but they're not super impressive. Let's see if LA can keep up that defensive energy for the sprint that will be the last 25 games and the playoffs. Particularly as teams gameplan against that defense come playoff time. Between Luke and Reaves they have two players that are worse defensively than anyone in our top 8, even hield.
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Re: Could it be Magic? 

Post#105 » by Onus » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:41 am

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No one is matchup proof but Jimmy is close, especially if his shot ever returns. I'm watching the clippers attack Luka, sporadically, and when they do, they get whatever they want. Jimmy hunting Luka in the playoffs is something I'll enjoy watching. Especially as much as Luka likes to foul + Jimmy's ability to draw them.

Re: podz, I agree. Against the magic, he got a bunch of grenades but, on balance, his shot just doesn't fall, outside that one stretch around January. If he can't find it, he may become harder to fit in lineups with Jimmy and dray, unless those two start shooting it from deep, which both have in the past. Jk was 35% from deep for the last month before his injury. If he can keep it in that range, podz's shooting is less important if his floor game (and defense) continues to shine

Yea we should be able to hunt Luka but the lakers are still playing good defense behind him. Jimmy likes to use strength. The one thing Luka has is strength.

Podz is going to get a lot of minutes moving forward but he does so much on the court it really is so odd that the one thing everyone thought he was coming into the league (shooter) is the one thing that’s really holding him back from exploding.



I don't trust that defense, at all. Looking at the last month where they are "the number one defense in the league" as I keep hearing on podcasts and outside of Denver, I can't find a good team. Indy without Turner and the two clipper wins, sure but they're not super impressive. Let's see if LA can keep up that defensive energy for the sprint that will be the last 25 games and the playoffs. Particularly as teams gameplan against that defense come playoff time. Between Luke and Reaves they have two players that are worse defensively than anyone in our top 8, even hield.

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Re: Could it be Magic? 

Post#106 » by vvoland » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:01 am

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Onus wrote:Yea we should be able to hunt Luka but the lakers are still playing good defense behind him. Jimmy likes to use strength. The one thing Luka has is strength.

Podz is going to get a lot of minutes moving forward but he does so much on the court it really is so odd that the one thing everyone thought he was coming into the league (shooter) is the one thing that’s really holding him back from exploding.



I don't trust that defense, at all. Looking at the last month where they are "the number one defense in the league" as I keep hearing on podcasts and outside of Denver, I can't find a good team. Indy without Turner and the two clipper wins, sure but they're not super impressive. Let's see if LA can keep up that defensive energy for the sprint that will be the last 25 games and the playoffs. Particularly as teams gameplan against that defense come playoff time. Between Luke and Reaves they have two players that are worse defensively than anyone in our top 8, even hield.

Didn’t they smack the Celtics?


Yes, but that was with AD
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Re: Could it be Magic? 

Post#107 » by vvoland » Sat Mar 1, 2025 8:03 am

According to the Athletic's Slam n jam podcast, in the Orlando game, Steph had a true shooting of 95%, making it the most efficient 50+pt game in NBA history. Can anyone check if that's true?
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Post#108 » by watch1958 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 8:21 am

vvoland wrote:According to the Athletic's Slam n jam podcast, in the Orlando game, Steph had a true shooting of 95%, making it the most efficient 50+pt game in NBA history. Can anyone check if that's true?

Kyrie had 101 in a 50 point game in 2022
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Post#109 » by watch1958 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 8:25 am

vvoland wrote:According to the Athletic's Slam n jam podcast, in the Orlando game, Steph had a true shooting of 95%, making it the most efficient 50+pt game in NBA history. Can anyone check if that's true?

Actually, Steph had a 92.9 in a 51 point game, so this wasn’t his most efficient.
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