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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger talking about being in awe of Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#21 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:23 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Djoker wrote:^ Arnold looks like a midget next to these guys. Saw the pic before but still crazy!


Yeah, thats wild. Arnold used to be face (probably still is) of Strongmen world championship. Beside Basketball, we Lithuanians are just randomly also very good at strongmen competitions, and we used to have this guy Žydrūnas Savickas, Big Z, who was worlds strongest man at a time, around 10-15 years ago. Žydrūnas wasn't very tall, around 6'3 or 6'4, but he was super massive as you could imagine and he met Arnold many times, and Arnold looks tiny next to him. I remember some 140 pound dude interviewing Žydrūnas and asking about Arnold and his stature, character, And Žydrūnas says that from his perspective, Arnold is as tiny as the reporter, great guy, but tiny man to Žydrūnas Savickas. :) So there is always levels to this, funny to think that to these men like Wilt, Andre, all people must have looked like children.

P.S. I know nothing of lift weighting, but if strongest guys do 120 pounds there, I imagined Wilt would probably do even moee than 150-170. That man was way beyond even the strongest regular men. Sadly, never got a chance to watch him play, two strongest players I have ever seen myself were Shad and Sofoklis, the next guy would be a very very distant third.
Arnold was more known for being a body builder, not a power lifter. Despite the Arnold classic carrying his namesake.

Arnold and Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) were going for looks. Most power lifters might even have a gut, not 6 pack abs.

Also, power lifters do WAY more than 120 pounds, most guys on this forum can lift 120 pounds on any of the 3 main lifts, without training.

In Met-Rx those guys were doing squating and dead lifting 750 pounds (340 kg) for reps.
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Post#22 » by LuDux1 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:32 pm

-Luke- wrote:Lithuania declares war on the USA. In the official declaration they write “We have 5 tanks, 5 airplanes, 10 ships and 1000 soldiers”. The USA writes back “We have 10,000 tanks, 20,000 airplanes, 20,000 ships and a million soldiers”. In response, Lithuania writes “We must withdraw our declaration of war. We don't have room for so many prisoners”.


Lithuanian parliamentarian proposes to declare war on Russia. Everyone is aghast, so the guy says "Look at living standards of Sweden, Finland, German, Turkey,, all the countries that lost to Russsia" Now everyone votes for it except https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vytautas_Landsbergis "What if we win?"

I think I heard this one on humour show Bicycle Show (Dviračio Šou) years ago
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger talking about being in awe of Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#23 » by sashaturiaf » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:42 pm

Wilt's frame and athleticism reminds me of a Giannis that's 7'2, and with a pretty reliable fadeaway in the post.

Yeah he'd absolutely wreck this current era.
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Post#24 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:53 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Arnold was more known for being a body builder, not a power lifter. Despite the Arnold classic carrying his namesake.

Arnold and Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) were going for looks. Most power lifters might even have a gut, not 6 pack abs.

Also, power lifters do WAY more than 120 pounds, most guys on this forum can lift 120 pounds on any of the 3 main lifts, without training.

In Met-Rx those guys were doing squating and dead lifting 750 pounds (340 kg) for reps.


No, I know Arnold wasn't a strongmen or anything, he is not even close to looking like one, but he is super famous and somehow became mascot of Worlds Strongmen championship. I work at water park now, and I have to check on the gym there, they have a gym, and the gym has pictures of prime Arnold, it has that picture of him flexing biceps to two old ladies on the bench, and on the exit door, it has Arnold from T2, and it says - Face when I am leaving the gym - I'll be back. :lol: Arnold is still idol to all the guys who work on their bodies, even tho Arnold was roided up the ass of course, but it doesn't matter, he is one of most famous people on earth.

I said this few days ago talking about Lukas fat helping him, that I do not really believe fat helps in Basketball, and it only helps in one sport - strongmen. Fat somehow helps in Strongmen competitions, most of these top tier strongmen are very fat, and they lose all the fat after retiring. Same happened to Savickas, he was huge, you wouldn't really even see muscle tone on him when he was worlds strongest man, but after retiring, he lost insane amount of weight, and I mean he still enormous, but now he only has muscle on, he looks almost like Bane from DC.
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I think maybe they carry fat so they would never lose any muscle mass, because these athletes do super training at least twice a day? I don't know, thats what I figured, I do not know anything about that strength training.
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger talking about being in awe of Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#25 » by slick_watts » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:54 pm

i'm sure wilt was a strong person but all these tales are embellished.
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Post#26 » by Handlez » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:00 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:Get to da chopper


Lol I heard that many times as I was falling asleep last night with TV on.

Must've been on predator.
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Post#27 » by Jasen777 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:39 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Djoker wrote:^ Arnold looks like a midget next to these guys. Saw the pic before but still crazy!


Yeah, thats wild. Arnold used to be face (probably still is) of Strongmen world championship. Beside Basketball, we Lithuanians are just randomly also very good at strongmen competitions, and we used to have this guy Žydrūnas Savickas, Big Z, who was worlds strongest man at a time, around 10-15 years ago. Žydrūnas wasn't very tall, around 6'3 or 6'4, but he was super massive as you could imagine and he met Arnold many times, and Arnold looks tiny next to him. I remember some 140 pound dude interviewing Žydrūnas and asking about Arnold and his stature, character, And Žydrūnas says that from his perspective, Arnold is as tiny as the reporter, great guy, but tiny man to Žydrūnas Savickas. :) So there is always levels to this, funny to think that to these men like Wilt, Andre, all people must have looked like children.

P.S. I know nothing of lift weighting, but if strongest guys do 120 pounds there, I imagined Wilt would probably do even moee than 150-170. That man was way beyond even the strongest regular men. Sadly, never got a chance to watch him play, two strongest players I have ever seen myself were Shad and Sofoklis, the next guy would be a very very distant third.
Arnold was more known for being a body builder, not a power lifter. Despite the Arnold classic carrying his namesake.

Arnold and Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) were going for looks. Most power lifters might even have a gut, not 6 pack abs.

Also, power lifters do WAY more than 120 pounds, most guys on this forum can lift 120 pounds on any of the 3 main lifts, without training.

In Met-Rx those guys were doing squating and dead lifting 750 pounds (340 kg) for reps.


120 was for a triceps extension and for reps presumably. I don't know how good that is considered nowdays but you obviously can't move nearly as much weight in a triceps extension as you can in a squat/dead lift/bench.
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger talking about being in awe of Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#28 » by Me Like Lakers » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:49 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Arnold was more known for being a body builder, not a power lifter. Despite the Arnold classic carrying his namesake.

Arnold and Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) were going for looks. Most power lifters might even have a gut, not 6 pack abs.

Also, power lifters do WAY more than 120 pounds, most guys on this forum can lift 120 pounds on any of the 3 main lifts, without training.

In Met-Rx those guys were doing squating and dead lifting 750 pounds (340 kg) for reps.


No, I know Arnold wasn't a strongmen or anything, he is not even close to looking like one, but he is super famous and somehow became mascot of Worlds Strongmen championship. I work at water park now, and I have to check on the gym there, they have a gym, and the gym has pictures of prime Arnold, it has that picture of him flexing biceps to two old ladies on the bench, and on the exit door, it has Arnold from T2, and it says - Face when I am leaving the gym - I'll be back. :lol: Arnold is still idol to all the guys who work on their bodies, even tho Arnold was roided up the ass of course, but it doesn't matter, he is one of most famous people on earth.

I said this few days ago talking about Lukas fat helping him, that I do not really believe fat helps in Basketball, and it only helps in one sport - strongmen. Fat somehow helps in Strongmen competitions, most of these top tier strongmen are very fat, and they lose all the fat after retiring. Same happened to Savickas, he was huge, you wouldn't really even see muscle tone on him when he was worlds strongest man, but after retiring, he lost insane amount of weight, and I mean he still enormous, but now he only has muscle on, he looks almost like Bane from DC.
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I think maybe they carry fat so they would never lose any muscle mass, because these athletes do super training at least twice a day? I don't know, thats what I figured, I do not know anything about that strength training.

Basically, it's really hard to bulk at the same time you control/reduce body fat. So, if your objective is only to gain strength, you won't mind as much for aesthetic.
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger talking about being in awe of Wilt Chamberlain's strength 

Post#29 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:54 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Yeah, thats wild. Arnold used to be face (probably still is) of Strongmen world championship. Beside Basketball, we Lithuanians are just randomly also very good at strongmen competitions, and we used to have this guy Žydrūnas Savickas, Big Z, who was worlds strongest man at a time, around 10-15 years ago. Žydrūnas wasn't very tall, around 6'3 or 6'4, but he was super massive as you could imagine and he met Arnold many times, and Arnold looks tiny next to him. I remember some 140 pound dude interviewing Žydrūnas and asking about Arnold and his stature, character, And Žydrūnas says that from his perspective, Arnold is as tiny as the reporter, great guy, but tiny man to Žydrūnas Savickas. :) So there is always levels to this, funny to think that to these men like Wilt, Andre, all people must have looked like children.

P.S. I know nothing of lift weighting, but if strongest guys do 120 pounds there, I imagined Wilt would probably do even moee than 150-170. That man was way beyond even the strongest regular men. Sadly, never got a chance to watch him play, two strongest players I have ever seen myself were Shag and Sofoklis, the next guy would be a very very distant third.


Yao was in their same level strength wise. Even when Yao was a rookie, Shaq couldn't move him off his spot, or back him down.
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Post#30 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:54 pm

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MavsDirk41 wrote:Get to da chopper


Lol I heard that many times as I was falling asleep last night with TV on.

Must've been on predator.


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Predator is such a good movie, its a cliche to say, but they really aint making films like they did, nowadyas, all that jungle would be blue screen stage and CGI. Even Peter Jackson scrapped all he did with LOTR and went blue screen studio with the hobbit.
Not to mention the characers. It is basically a slasher movie, but instead of helpless teens it is squad of manliest commandos ever put tohether, being hunted down.

crazy to see their initial idea for the monster and that suit, good job they figured that wouldn't work, Predator look became iconic.

P.S. I kinda lIked Adrien Brody movie, I think it was pretty good. Alse the last one with female native american was very good. Nowadays I watch like 1 new movie per few years, but I watched that, it was great. Alien vs Predator requiem is one of the biggest pieces of *** I have ever seen.
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Post#31 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:56 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Yao was in their same level strength wise. Even when Yao was a rookie, Shaq couldn't move him off his spot or back him down.


Yao had crazy strong legs, I would not say he was as strong as Shaq or Sofoklis, at least not offensively, but it was hard to push him on defense. Yao is the guy who is hard to push, but he aint't pushing very hard himself. Shaq and Sofoklis were inpossible to push, but they would also just mall everyone in their way.
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Post#32 » by Bankai » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:42 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Predator is such a good movie, its a cliche to say, but they really aint making films like they did, nowadyas, all that jungle would be blue screen stage and CGI. Even Peter Jackson scrapped all he did with LOTR and went blue screen studio with the hobbit.
Not to mention the characers. It is basically a slasher movie, but instead of helpless teens it is squad of manliest commandos ever put tohether, being hunted down.


I grew up with 90's idea of masculinity. I remember when Expendables 2 came out, I reviewed it as "Your Father's Avengers". :lol:
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Post#33 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:01 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:Predator is such a good movie, its a cliche to say, but they really aint making films like they did, nowadyas, all that jungle would be blue screen stage and CGI. Even Peter Jackson scrapped all he did with LOTR and went blue screen studio with the hobbit.
Not to mention the characers. It is basically a slasher movie, but instead of helpless teens it is squad of manliest commandos ever put tohether, being hunted down.


I grew up with 90's idea of masculinity. I remember when Expendables 2 came out, I reviewed it as "Your Father's Avengers". :lol:


Never watched expendables movies. I have seen very very few movies in General, starting from like year 2002... Nowadays I was just keeping up with MARVEL movies, I was a big fan of MCU, but like many casuals, I dropped off after Endgame, seen Guardians 3, seen new Spiderman and I have seen Multiverse of madness, all 3 movies I liked, but I just lost passion.

Many years ago, most probably do not remember, my avatar was Alfred Hitchcock's face... I am a big Hitchcock fan, but I do not pretend to be cinema snob at all. My favorite movie ever is Brandon Fraziers Mummy and thats it, I am not ashamed of it.
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Post#34 » by Bankai » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:10 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Never watched expendables movies. I have seen very very few movies in General, starting from like year 2002... Nowadays I was just keeping up with MARVEL movies, I was a big fan of MCU, but like many casuals, I dropped off after Endgame, seen Guardians 3, seen new Spiderman and I have seen Multiverse of madness, all 3 movies I liked, but I just lost passion.

Many years ago, most probably do not remember, my avatar was Alfred Hitchcock's face... I am a big Hitchcock fan, but I do not pretend to be cinema snob at all. My favorite movie ever is Brandon Fraziers Mummy and thats it, I am not ashamed of it.

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Im like the only guy in my circle who really liked The Mummy 1 and 2. :nod:
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Post#35 » by D.Brasco » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:50 pm

slick_watts wrote:i'm sure wilt was a strong person but all these tales are embellished.


What tale? It's litterally Arnold talking about a dinner he had with Wilt and Andre and them easily picking him up. There is literally a photo in this thread of them doing just that.

What exactly did Arnold say that was unbelievable? He even admitted Wilt was cheap and never liked to pay.
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Post#36 » by slick_watts » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:59 pm

D.Brasco wrote:
slick_watts wrote:i'm sure wilt was a strong person but all these tales are embellished.


What tale? It's litterally Arnold talking about a dinner he had with Wilt and Andre and them easily picking him up. There is literally a photo in this thread of them doing just that.

What exactly did Arnold say that was unbelievable? He even admitted Wilt was cheap and never liked to pay.


i don't believe that wilt could easily lift arnold's dead weight like a baby. the photo captures a moment where arnold is allegedly being lifted up by wilt and andre, we don't know if they lifted him to that position, if he leapt, or even if he was held up for any length of time.

wilt's handshake with shaq posted in this thread and elsewhere is a great example of the wilt mythology. it's just a handshake.
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Post#37 » by UcanUwill » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:02 pm

Bankai wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Never watched expendables movies. I have seen very very few movies in General, starting from like year 2002... Nowadays I was just keeping up with MARVEL movies, I was a big fan of MCU, but like many casuals, I dropped off after Endgame, seen Guardians 3, seen new Spiderman and I have seen Multiverse of madness, all 3 movies I liked, but I just lost passion.

Many years ago, most probably do not remember, my avatar was Alfred Hitchcock's face... I am a big Hitchcock fan, but I do not pretend to be cinema snob at all. My favorite movie ever is Brandon Fraziers Mummy and thats it, I am not ashamed of it.

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Im like the only guy in my circle who really liked The Mummy 1 and 2. :nod:


I do not like Mummy 2 at all, thats one of my original let downs, first sequel I probably watched where I thought - wow, this sucks. I was such a huge fan of the first one, but second one they just bring non sense, like Evelyn being reincarnation of Anck-su-Namus ancient rival, they don't even explain well why Anck-su-Namu is alive, I think shes just reincarnation too, cause wahtever, the whole book of the dead sequence is so rushed, it is just such a quick sequel non sense, not a fan. I know it has more sequels that supposedly far worse, they recast Rachel Weisz, wich is a crime, if you can't get Rachel Weisz you just do not do the damn movie, but it was straight to DVD, so I barely count those tho. It is like Home Alone sequels post Home alone 3, which also sucked balls by the way, but at least its not later ones :lol: Home Alone 3 is written by John Hughes, can you believe that?

I also, was never really a fan of original Mummy movie strangely enough, I mean the one with Boris Karloff. That is one golden Age universal monster movie that I think is pretty damn boring, tho of course revolutionary at the time, and the only Universal monster that was totally original IP.

I know my favorite movie is a remake, and thats weird to think, but yeah, I love Mummy 1999.
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Post#38 » by D.Brasco » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:17 pm

slick_watts wrote:
D.Brasco wrote:
slick_watts wrote:i'm sure wilt was a strong person but all these tales are embellished.


What tale? It's litterally Arnold talking about a dinner he had with Wilt and Andre and them easily picking him up. There is literally a photo in this thread of them doing just that.

What exactly did Arnold say that was unbelievable? He even admitted Wilt was cheap and never liked to pay.


i don't believe that wilt could easily lift arnold's dead weight like a baby. the photo captures a moment where arnold is allegedly being lifted up by wilt and andre, we don't know if they lifted him to that position, if he leapt, or even if he was held up for any length of time.

wilt's handshake with shaq posted in this thread and elsewhere is a great example of the wilt mythology. it's just a handshake.


Why would it be hard to believe that Andre and Wilt couldn't lift Arnold without him jumping first? Arnold was probably around 230 lbs at the time; not too difficult for men the size of Wilt and Andre to lift him at one arm apiece. Mass scales up with height; it would be like two 6-foot-tall guys lifting a child.

Do you really think Arnold is in on a grand conspiracy to exaggerate Wilt's strength to the public?
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Post#39 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:22 pm

Memories wrote:Even by today’s standards, Wilt would be the most freakish athlete in the NBA today. Ridiculously strong, very fast (helps due to him being a track runner), huge body, long arms, BIG hands.

The only thing more dangerous than him on the court in today’s NBA, would have been him OFF THE COURT with social media and dating apps. Dude would probably legit have had sex with over 10K women today. :lol:


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Post#40 » by slick_watts » Sat Mar 1, 2025 7:36 pm

D.Brasco wrote:Why would it be hard to believe that Andre and Wilt couldn't lift Arnold without him jumping first? Arnold was probably around 230 lbs at the time; not too difficult for men the size of Wilt and Andre to lift him at one arm apiece. Mass scales up with height; it would be like two 6-foot-tall guys lifting a child.


the way wilt's strength is described by arnold (and others) is that he could easily lift him up as a dead weight, which i don't think is realistic. i don't think the photo of them holding arnold up is proof of anything. they could both together definitely lift him, it's the ease at which it is claimed they could do so that i have an issue with. just watch strong men lifting 250 pound stones. and a human body is even more unwieldy than that.

D.Brasco wrote:Do you really think Arnold is in on a grand conspiracy to exaggerate Wilt's strength to the public?


it's not a conspiracy, it's just an old man telling stories and embellishing a mythological figure. lots of old men do that.

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