2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft
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I wouldn’t trade down, even if Embiid and George are reliable.
We already have too much depth—we’re even projected to re-sign Eric Gordon, Andre Drummond, and Kelly Oubre while still having a $14M exception for Yabusele. You got a log jam already at the guard positions. I also think we have a decent wing depth with George, Oubre and Edwards.
A rookie is unlikely to contribute right away, so if we’re drafting, we need a balance—someone who can either make an immediate impact, become a core piece, or be a valuable trade asset to help clear our books. The best players who fit that mold are usually at the top of the lottery.
We already have too much depth—we’re even projected to re-sign Eric Gordon, Andre Drummond, and Kelly Oubre while still having a $14M exception for Yabusele. You got a log jam already at the guard positions. I also think we have a decent wing depth with George, Oubre and Edwards.
A rookie is unlikely to contribute right away, so if we’re drafting, we need a balance—someone who can either make an immediate impact, become a core piece, or be a valuable trade asset to help clear our books. The best players who fit that mold are usually at the top of the lottery.
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Not only do we need the pick to hit, but we need a top three pick. The positional need is SF/PF and they will likely go top three: Flagg, Harper, Bailey.
If we have the pick and those three are gone, I feel like the pick will be traded.
If we have the pick and those three are gone, I feel like the pick will be traded.
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We need to continue building up an organic and cost controlled stable of talent.
After finding Maxey in the 20s
McCain outside the lottery
Edwards and Council as a UDFAs
There's absolutely no reason to be turning our noses up at a 5th or 6th overall pick.
Morey and his staff have proven to be astute at drafting and identifying legitimate NBA talent with upside. I'm expecting two more cogs in the first and second this year.
After finding Maxey in the 20s
McCain outside the lottery
Edwards and Council as a UDFAs
There's absolutely no reason to be turning our noses up at a 5th or 6th overall pick.
Morey and his staff have proven to be astute at drafting and identifying legitimate NBA talent with upside. I'm expecting two more cogs in the first and second this year.
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It's all about who's available. If we land at pick 4-6 it depends if a star is available. If yes pull the trigger.
If not explore trade options to bank ammo for future deals. I'd even do that at #3 since I"m not sold on Bailey as a star.
If not explore trade options to bank ammo for future deals. I'd even do that at #3 since I"m not sold on Bailey as a star.
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stormi wrote:We need to continue building up an organic and cost controlled stable of talent.
After finding Maxey in the 20s
McCain outside the lottery
Edwards and Council as a UDFAs
There's absolutely no reason to be turning our noses up at a 5th or 6th overall pick.
Morey and his staff have proven to be astute at drafting and identifying legitimate NBA talent with upside. I'm expecting two more cogs in the first and second this year.
100% agree. Unless we're getting multiple future picks from a likely lottery team I'm keeping and using this pick. Worst case scenario is trading the pick for some 'win-now' player, which would be a fireable offense.
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been more noise about George deciding to stop his stupid podcast "to focus on getting my body right, getting mentally right" now, and why anyone would be okay with a 34-year old veteran signing a max deal and that not being understood from the outset?
We all know he had no desire to come here in the first place and just took the only offer he had for a 4-year max, and now he almost confirms how little he cared about being the best he could be mentally and physically, and there's no blowback or any real reaction to it? I find that nothing short of bizarre.
We all know he had no desire to come here in the first place and just took the only offer he had for a 4-year max, and now he almost confirms how little he cared about being the best he could be mentally and physically, and there's no blowback or any real reaction to it? I find that nothing short of bizarre.
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mjkvol wrote:I'd like to know why there hasn't been more noise about George deciding to stop his stupid podcast "to focus on getting my body right, getting mentally right" now, and why anyone would be okay with a 34-year old veteran signing a max deal and that not being understood from the outset?
We all know he had no desire to come here in the first place and just took the only offer he had for a 4-year max, and now he almost confirms how little he cared about being the best he could be mentally and physically, and there's no blowback or any real reaction to it? I find that nothing short of bizarre.
Because nobody cares anymore. Eagles won the SB and Sixers have been so terrible everyone has tuned out.
It's all over lol.
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mjkvol wrote:I'd like to know why there hasn't been more noise about George deciding to stop his stupid podcast "to focus on getting my body right, getting mentally right" now, and why anyone would be okay with a 34-year old veteran signing a max deal and that not being understood from the outset?
We all know he had no desire to come here in the first place and just took the only offer he had for a 4-year max, and now he almost confirms how little he cared about being the best he could be mentally and physically, and there's no blowback or any real reaction to it? I find that nothing short of bizarre.
It's an hour a week, and then he's got a team of guys that do the rest of the work. The podcast wasn't interring with ****. Dealing with the public backlash of it might have been.
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Givony has Tre over Kasparas now
If im that good in scoring, i dont think i would passing it to my teammates too
If im that good in scoring, i dont think i would passing it to my teammates too
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Type of game I'm waiting for from him. Take over. I hope he cooks this March and flies up boards.
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stormi wrote:76ciology wrote:I haven’t fully thought it through, but if we’re not rebuilding and just looking to draft an impact player who complements our core, Collin Murray-Boyles makes a strong case.
Embiid can’t jump. Yabu can’t jump. Boyles brings energy on defense, rebounds well, and provides some rim protection. Someone who can anchor the defense.
He’s also quick enough and has wing level playmaking and ball-handling to keep the pace up and maintain offensive flow. He fits a similar role to Oubre (who shoots 28% from three), giving us a player who can curl into the paint, cut well in those dribble handoff actions, and run two-man actions with Maxey when Embiid is out.
If we ever move on from Embiid, Murray-Boyles looks like a Draymond Green clone—defense, playmaking, IQ, and size (CBM with elite ht to ws ratio too) —all there. He could be a great complement to Maxey and McCain, much like Draymond is to Curry.
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Man.. if he develops a jumper.
I'm taking him at #6 as it stands.
CMB is 6 months younger than Queen and has TWO years of better production (on worse teams).
Flagg
Harper
CMB
Kasparas/Edgecombe/Queen
Bailey/Jase/Maluach/Knueppel/Tre
Haven't seen enough of Asa Newell and Noa Essengue
My issue with CMB is that he moves like a C at 6'7. Smart player, fills the stat sheet; but a bit lumbering. If he could be an SF, I'd be more exciting.
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Not sure if he's going to the draft, but this is a deeper sleeper to me. Scoring better to close out the year and shooting well from three. He looks a little like Kyle Anderson in the way he moves, but he generates steals at a ridiculous rate (4.2 STL%) so there is athleticism just not vertically. Generates assists (20 AST%), rebounds well (23.2 DRB%). Kind of a jack of all trades type player. Need to see his measured height/wingspan for me to be comfortable saying I'd take him in the second round.
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Maxime Raynaud is becoming must draft in the 2nd round. His game is pretty special. Game clinching dunk today against SMU.
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Negrodamus wrote:Maxime Raynaud is becoming must draft in the 2nd round. His game is pretty special. Game clinching dunk today against SMU.
He moves pretty well for a 7'1" guy. If he can be a legit stretch-5 that's super valuable in the spacing-obsessed NBA.
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Negrodamus wrote:stormi wrote:76ciology wrote:I haven’t fully thought it through, but if we’re not rebuilding and just looking to draft an impact player who complements our core, Collin Murray-Boyles makes a strong case.
Embiid can’t jump. Yabu can’t jump. Boyles brings energy on defense, rebounds well, and provides some rim protection. Someone who can anchor the defense.
He’s also quick enough and has wing level playmaking and ball-handling to keep the pace up and maintain offensive flow. He fits a similar role to Oubre (who shoots 28% from three), giving us a player who can curl into the paint, cut well in those dribble handoff actions, and run two-man actions with Maxey when Embiid is out.
If we ever move on from Embiid, Murray-Boyles looks like a Draymond Green clone—defense, playmaking, IQ, and size (CBM with elite ht to ws ratio too) —all there. He could be a great complement to Maxey and McCain, much like Draymond is to Curry.
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Man.. if he develops a jumper.
I'm taking him at #6 as it stands.
CMB is 6 months younger than Queen and has TWO years of better production (on worse teams).
Flagg
Harper
CMB
Kasparas/Edgecombe/Queen
Bailey/Jase/Maluach/Knueppel/Tre
Haven't seen enough of Asa Newell and Noa Essengue
My issue with CMB is that he moves like a C at 6'7. Smart player, fills the stat sheet; but a bit lumbering. If he could be an SF, I'd be more exciting.
He’s an undersized 4-5 at 6’7” but he plays bigger than his size with his 7’3” wingspan.
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He moves like a 3-4, creating mismatches—too quick for bigs, too strong for wings. The problem is he gets blocked often and isn’t a reliable shooter yet. His archetype works well alongside combo guards like Maxey and McCain. If Embiid is just going to settle for threes and slack on defense, he could complement him too.
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76ciology wrote:Negrodamus wrote:stormi wrote:
I'm taking him at #6 as it stands.
CMB is 6 months younger than Queen and has TWO years of better production (on worse teams).
Flagg
Harper
CMB
Kasparas/Edgecombe/Queen
Bailey/Jase/Maluach/Knueppel/Tre
Haven't seen enough of Asa Newell and Noa Essengue
My issue with CMB is that he moves like a C at 6'7. Smart player, fills the stat sheet; but a bit lumbering. If he could be an SF, I'd be more exciting.
He’s an undersized 4-5 at 6’7” but he plays bigger than his size with his 7’3” wingspan.
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He moves like a 3-4, creating mismatches—too quick for bigs, too strong for wings. The problem is he gets blocked often and isn’t a reliable shooter yet. His archetype works well alongside combo guards like Maxey and McCain. If Embiid is just going to settle for threes and slack on defense, he could complement him too.
Yea I suppose he could be a Pascal Siakam type, but he’s still not quite as tall nor agile. The numbers say yes for me, but the eye test is lacking. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t pick him in our range if we’re landing the pick.
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Negrodamus wrote:76ciology wrote:Negrodamus wrote:
My issue with CMB is that he moves like a C at 6'7. Smart player, fills the stat sheet; but a bit lumbering. If he could be an SF, I'd be more exciting.
He’s an undersized 4-5 at 6’7” but he plays bigger than his size with his 7’3” wingspan.
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He moves like a 3-4, creating mismatches—too quick for bigs, too strong for wings. The problem is he gets blocked often and isn’t a reliable shooter yet. His archetype works well alongside combo guards like Maxey and McCain. If Embiid is just going to settle for threes and slack on defense, he could complement him too.
Yea I suppose he could be a Pascal Siakam type, but he’s still not quite as tall nor agile. The numbers say yes for me, but the eye test is lacking. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t pick him in our range if we’re landing the pick.
I probably have 5-6 guys ahead of him.
1- Cooper
2- Harper
3- Tre
4- Edgecombe
5- Kasparas
6- CMB or Newell
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I’m to the point where #2 on the big board is between Harper and Fears for me. Fears is so blazing fast. He’s going to be a problem in the league.
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Thoughts on trading #6 to Charlotte for Tidjane Salaun?
Salaun was the 6th pick in last year's class and won't even turn 20 until August.
Salaun was the 6th pick in last year's class and won't even turn 20 until August.
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Negrodamus wrote:I’m to the point where #2 on the big board is between Harper and Fears for me. Fears is so blazing fast. He’s going to be a problem in the league.
Fears' stats look great but he's likely 6'3" in shoes with a 6'3" wingspan. I'd hope we can find a similar-level prospect with positional size if we get a top pick.






