2024-25 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[MetalFingaz]

At least they're trying today.
Against West Ham, it was really bad.

Today's much much better against a very solid Forrest.

But, not replacing Edu is the biggest mistake of the last couple of years.

Seen a little bit of "Arteta out" around the internet commentariat, particularly because of some of the recent transfer decisions. Surely this isn't a broad view among the fanbase?

[Baseline81]

Seen a little bit of "Arteta out" around the internet commentariat, particularly because of some of the recent transfer decisions. Surely this isn't a broad view among the fanbase?

When you consider the amount Arteta has been given (£700m+), all he has is an FA cup in fives seasons. How much longer do you give him? I do not understand when I hear or read how "no one else is out there" to replace him.

One could argue the season was derailed once Saka went down, but fans, even the neutral, have said the team needs an actual striker. Yet, Arteta remains firm on Havertz.

[wco81]

At least they're trying today.
Against West Ham, it was really bad.

Today's much much better against a very solid Forrest.

But, not replacing Edu is the biggest mistake of the last couple of years.

Seen a little bit of "Arteta out" around the internet commentariat, particularly because of some of the recent transfer decisions. Surely this isn't a broad view among the fanbase?

No need to rush Saka back now, though maybe they still entertain hopes about the UCL.

[The_Brecht]

At least they're trying today.
Against West Ham, it was really bad.

Today's much much better against a very solid Forrest.

But, not replacing Edu is the biggest mistake of the last couple of years.

Seen a little bit of "Arteta out" around the internet commentariat, particularly because of some of the recent transfer decisions. Surely this isn't a broad view among the fanbase?

Only idiots would call for sacking Arteta.
From what I've seen online it's the typical accounts who are looking for clicks and views.
I don't consider them as fans.

[The_Brecht]

Seen a little bit of "Arteta out" around the internet commentariat, particularly because of some of the recent transfer decisions. Surely this isn't a broad view among the fanbase?

When you consider the amount Arteta has been given (£700m+), all he has is an FA cup in fives seasons. How much longer do you give him? I do not understand when I hear or read how "no one else is out there" to replace him.

One could argue the season was derailed once Saka went down, but fans, even the neutral, have said the team needs an actual striker. Yet, Arteta remains firm on Havertz.

Considering Arteta took over when Arsenal were completely in the mud and made them a real title contender for three seasons in a row, the criticism is a little over the top.
Also, the claim Arteta didn't want a striker is false. He publicly asked for strikers multiple times.

[Baseline81]

Considering Arteta took over when Arsenal were completely in the mud and made them a real title contender for three seasons in a row, the criticism is a little over the top.
Also, the claim Arteta didn't want a striker is false. He publicly asked for strikers multiple times.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Arteta bring in both Jesus and Havertz? It was his doing as to why a better striker wasn't bought sooner. Which leads me to this past summer -- were Calafiori, Merino (who's been playing as a striker the last two matches) and Sterling even needed when those funds could have been directed at purchasing the striker? I'll wait while you try to justify those three.

I'm not saying he's a bad manager and needs to be giving the boot, but rather I can see why there are frustrations with him.

[Shaazzam]

Hopefully Onana got his bunches of mistakes out in a single game. woof

[The_Brecht]

Considering Arteta took over when Arsenal were completely in the mud and made them a real title contender for three seasons in a row, the criticism is a little over the top.
Also, the claim Arteta didn't want a striker is false. He publicly asked for strikers multiple times.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Arteta bring in both Jesus and Havertz? It was his doing as to why a better striker wasn't bought sooner. Which leads me to this past summer -- were Calafiori, Merino (who's been playing as a striker the last two matches) and Sterling even needed when those funds could have been directed at purchasing the striker? I'll wait while you try to justify those three.

I'm not saying he's a bad manager and needs to be giving the boot, but rather I can see why there are frustrations with him.

Jesus was a great signing at the time. Injuries have cut his time as a top player short.
Havertz is still a good signing. Now that he's not playing, his importance is showing.

In the previous seasons we struggled with depth in the squad at the back and midfield, so the Calafiori and Merino signings are perfectly responsible squad management. The Sterling move is a bust, but at the time - transfer deadline day - a loan with paying only half his wages was an apportunity. Hindsight is easy.

What bothers me is the fact Arteta asked for a striker in the summer and extra attacking options in january. He didn't get them. Edu was at fault in the summer, especially considering he allowed Smith-Rowe and Nelson to exit the club without getting replacements.
The board didn't replace him so they're to blame for january.

Don't get me wrong, some criticism of Arteta is mandatory. The last two season we played a fluid, attacking system. This season I feel the focus is on control, which leads to a rather boring, predictable style of football in a lot of games. Imo that's the reason why there's been a lot of draws. It also directly influenced the form of players like Odegaard and Martinelli who thrive in a more fluid system.

[Baseline81]

Absolute joke semiautomated offside is debuting this weekend in the FA Cup but no where to be seen when it comes to the PL.

[LDNMagic90]

Poor challenge in the Palace vs Millwall game from the Millwall goalie. Michael Oliver initially didn’t want to give a card but had to go to VAR to send him off. Mateta is now in hospital with a neck injury, it was one of the worst challenges I’ve seen at a professional level.

[MetalFingaz]

Poor challenge in the Palace vs Millwall game from the Millwall goalie. Michael Oliver initially didn’t want to give a card but had to go to VAR to send him off. Mateta is now in hospital with a neck injury, it was one of the worst challenges I’ve seen at a professional level.

Absolutely horrific challenge. No idea what the keeper was thinking. Hope Mateta comes through alright.

[The_Brecht]

Poor challenge in the Palace vs Millwall game from the Millwall goalie. Michael Oliver initially didn’t want to give a card but had to go to VAR to send him off. Mateta is now in hospital with a neck injury, it was one of the worst challenges I’ve seen at a professional level.

Oliver is such a bad ref.
How don't you give a red immediately. He got a clear view.

[Wisky4life]

Well at least Casimiro can have more days to rest. This team is bad. Im ready for Summer Transfers season.

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[Baseline81]

Well at least Casimiro can have more days to rest. This team is bad. Im ready for Summer Transfers season.

Note if Manchester United doesn't win EL, how much will you even have to spend on summer transfers? With as much penny-pinching as the club has done, I wouldn't expect a dramatic overhaul.

[Wisky4life]

If they sell everyone and buy cheap players. Im open to an entire under 25 team next year. Our Academy is good.

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[Shaazzam]

Poor challenge in the Palace vs Millwall game from the Millwall goalie. Michael Oliver initially didn’t want to give a card but had to go to VAR to send him off. Mateta is now in hospital with a neck injury, it was one of the worst challenges I’ve seen at a professional level.

Absolutely horrific challenge. No idea what the keeper was thinking. Hope Mateta comes through alright.

holy ****, thats like movie level horrific

[MetalFingaz]

Raya is a good keeper but I don't know why he shows Bruno 2/3 of the net there. That's a good not great free kick that should be saved.

[The_Brecht]

How are we even behind? Every f'n time against them.
They don't exist, but we can't seem to get it over the line

[The_Brecht]

Lackluster second half by Arsenal so far.
Seems like the belief is gone.

2 massive saves by Raya

[MetalFingaz]

Raya has been massive in the 2nd half.