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BYU offered more than the other schools. It isn’t a big secret. Doesn’t take away from what Young is building. But they had more cash than other programs.
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If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
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Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
Because Pepperdine is a good as BYU (sitting at a 5 seed according to Lunardi) and plays the same schedule as BYU.
Dybantsa has been clear he wants to win. he could have gone to a blue blood loser trending the wrong direction like Darren Petersen did, but he has said multiple times winning is a priority.
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SeattleJazzFan wrote:Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
Because Pepperdine is a good as BYU (sitting at a 5 seed according to Lunardi) and plays the same schedule as BYU.
Dybantsa has been clear he wants to win. he could have gone to a blue blood loser trending the wrong direction like Darren Petersen did, but he has said multiple times winning is a priority.
BYU is an average program. Idk why you’re pretending like they’re good at winning at anything lol. Not even in my top 50 programs if I was a recruit
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azcatz11 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
Because Pepperdine is a good as BYU (sitting at a 5 seed according to Lunardi) and plays the same schedule as BYU.
Dybantsa has been clear he wants to win. he could have gone to a blue blood loser trending the wrong direction like Darren Petersen did, but he has said multiple times winning is a priority.
BYU is an average program. Idk why you’re pretending like they’re good at winning at anything lol. Not even in my top 50 programs if I was a recruit
I’ve never claimed they are a top 50 program. I’ve not used the term program at all throughout this entire discussion. That’s a term you’ve brought up.
The reality they are a very good college basketball TEAM right now - after this week, probably sitting there with a top 20 ranking. And that’s without Dybantsa. Forget about $$$, Just from a winning standpoint, Dybantsa chose very well.
To be a great program, you have to sustain it over several years, but Dybantsa is concerned with the now. Whether they are a great program is irrelevant to him. He wanted to go a team that would win now. Seems that isn’t as important to a guy like Darren Petersen and that’s okay too.
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Darryn Peterson is going to be playing for one of the best college coaches of all time and a legendary program. It makes no sense to keep throwing him into this to stick up for AJ. They’ll both be fine
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TYO23 wrote:Darryn Peterson is going to be playing for one of the best college coaches of all time and a legendary program. It makes no sense to keep throwing him into this to stick up for AJ. They’ll both be fine
He will be fine. I brought up him and his KU commitment to underscore to difference between committing to a winning program and a winning team. Folks in this thread are underrating the success BYU is having (while at the same time ignoring the struggles a program like Kansas is having) simply because they aren’t a traditionally great program. If NIL didn’t exist, the commitment to BYU would still make a lot of sense simply from the standpoint of playing winning basketball.
Again, money aside, Dybantsa’s goal was to win and prepare for the NBA. He’s in the right place regardless of any NIL deals.
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SeattleJazzFan wrote:TYO23 wrote:Darryn Peterson is going to be playing for one of the best college coaches of all time and a legendary program. It makes no sense to keep throwing him into this to stick up for AJ. They’ll both be fine
He will be fine. I brought up him and his KU commitment to underscore to difference between committing to a winning program and a winning team. Folks in this thread are underrating the success BYU is having (while at the same time ignoring the struggles a program like Kansas is having) simply because they aren’t a traditionally great program. If NIL didn’t exist, the commitment to BYU would still make a lot of sense simply from the standpoint of playing winning basketball.
Again, money aside, Dybantsa’s goal was to win and prepare for the NBA. He’s in the right place regardless of any NIL deals.
I’m a Kansas fan I know about the struggles and most of them are graduating this year. So it won’t affect Darryn.
Either way I look forward to seeing him and Darryn go at it next year.
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SeattleJazzFan wrote:azcatz11 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Because Pepperdine is a good as BYU (sitting at a 5 seed according to Lunardi) and plays the same schedule as BYU.
Dybantsa has been clear he wants to win. he could have gone to a blue blood loser trending the wrong direction like Darren Petersen did, but he has said multiple times winning is a priority.
BYU is an average program. Idk why you’re pretending like they’re good at winning at anything lol. Not even in my top 50 programs if I was a recruit
I’ve never claimed they are a top 50 program. I’ve not used the term program at all throughout this entire discussion. That’s a term you’ve brought up.
The reality they are a very good college basketball TEAM right now - after this week, probably sitting there with a top 20 ranking. And that’s without Dybantsa. Forget about $$$, Just from a winning standpoint, Dybantsa chose very well.
To be a great program, you have to sustain it over several years, but Dybantsa is concerned with the now. Whether they are a great program is irrelevant to him. He wanted to go a team that would win now. Seems that isn’t as important to a guy like Darren Petersen and that’s okay too.
So this is the high point for BYU basketball? A fringe top 25 team? You tried dunking on Kansas and seem to be not self aware in the slightest. After last year's flameout I would expect some humility.
Honestly, I think you're delusional on what you think BYU basketball is and has been
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SeattleJazzFan wrote:TYO23 wrote:Darryn Peterson is going to be playing for one of the best college coaches of all time and a legendary program. It makes no sense to keep throwing him into this to stick up for AJ. They’ll both be fine
He will be fine. I brought up him and his KU commitment to underscore to difference between committing to a winning program and a winning team. Folks in this thread are underrating the success BYU is having (while at the same time ignoring the struggles a program like Kansas is having) simply because they aren’t a traditionally great program. If NIL didn’t exist, the commitment to BYU would still make a lot of sense simply from the standpoint of playing winning basketball.
Again, money aside, Dybantsa’s goal was to win and prepare for the NBA. He’s in the right place regardless of any NIL deals.
Your team was probably better last year and the 5 out failed miserable because BYU only depends on the 3 ball. It's like a watered down version of Alabama. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys lost again in the first round tbh
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azcatz11 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:TYO23 wrote:Darryn Peterson is going to be playing for one of the best college coaches of all time and a legendary program. It makes no sense to keep throwing him into this to stick up for AJ. They’ll both be fine
He will be fine. I brought up him and his KU commitment to underscore to difference between committing to a winning program and a winning team. Folks in this thread are underrating the success BYU is having (while at the same time ignoring the struggles a program like Kansas is having) simply because they aren’t a traditionally great program. If NIL didn’t exist, the commitment to BYU would still make a lot of sense simply from the standpoint of playing winning basketball.
Again, money aside, Dybantsa’s goal was to win and prepare for the NBA. He’s in the right place regardless of any NIL deals.
Your team was probably better last year and the 5 out failed miserable because BYU only depends on the 3 ball. It's like a watered down version of Alabama. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys lost again in the first round tbh
time will tell. the fact is, byu is having a very good season. before they even get Dybantsa. they should be significantly better with him. they have a respected HC and they have shown they are going to be major players in the NIL game. no reason to think they shouldn't be very good in the years to come.
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Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
He wouldn't be developed as good if he had gone to Pepperdine. Also if his priority is "smashing 10s" instead of improving his game during his freshman year that's a red flag already.
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Shock Defeat wrote:Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
He wouldn't be developed as good if he had gone to Pepperdine. Also if his priority is "smashing 10s" instead of improving his game during his freshman year that's a red flag already.
I don't know about you, but at 18 all I cared about was chasing skirts. I'd be worried if he wasn't thinking about that.
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Big J wrote:Shock Defeat wrote:Big J wrote:If it wasn’t about the money he could have gone to Pepperdine and smashed 10s all day long and still been the number one pick. At BYU he has to deal with Mormon chicks telling him to put a ring on it.
He wouldn't be developed as good if he had gone to Pepperdine. Also if his priority is "smashing 10s" instead of improving his game during his freshman year that's a red flag already.
I don't know about you, but at 18 all I cared about was chasing skirts. I'd be worried if he wasn't thinking about that.
It’s similar to the movie varsity blues. Star QB shouldn’t marry an ugly girl means he has no self confidence
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Did anyone catch his interview on KOC's podcast?
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Just getting some time to really look at him. I definitely get what people love, and he looks like a #1 pick to me, but to play some Devil’s advocate:
I don’t think his first step and explosion from a standstill is super elite, but merely just very good. His skill level is high, but when he drives, he seems to have to rely on strength to power past them as he didn’t beat them off the initial step, and they really get into his body.
To his credit though, his ball handling, his ability to handle physicality, and his body control and finishing is fantastic through contact. It might actually ne better for his development that he’s growing up finishing witj lots of contact as opposed to it not happening to him until he gets to the league.
He looks more 6’8 than 6’10 to me, but if he’s only 200 pounds I’d be kinda surprised. He has such a strong and sturdy frame, he might be able to pack on much more weight than people are expecting and be even more physically imposing. He might end up closer to 240 than 220. His final form athleticism might be more scary.
His athleticism is great, even if I have a bit of a question about his quick twitchiness(which isn’t to say it’s bad, but I don’t think it’s all time great or whatever), but he looks so smooth, skilled, and physical that I’m not sure it’s a huge deal.
I definitely get the love for him, but I wanna see him against college competition.
I don’t think his first step and explosion from a standstill is super elite, but merely just very good. His skill level is high, but when he drives, he seems to have to rely on strength to power past them as he didn’t beat them off the initial step, and they really get into his body.
To his credit though, his ball handling, his ability to handle physicality, and his body control and finishing is fantastic through contact. It might actually ne better for his development that he’s growing up finishing witj lots of contact as opposed to it not happening to him until he gets to the league.
He looks more 6’8 than 6’10 to me, but if he’s only 200 pounds I’d be kinda surprised. He has such a strong and sturdy frame, he might be able to pack on much more weight than people are expecting and be even more physically imposing. He might end up closer to 240 than 220. His final form athleticism might be more scary.
His athleticism is great, even if I have a bit of a question about his quick twitchiness(which isn’t to say it’s bad, but I don’t think it’s all time great or whatever), but he looks so smooth, skilled, and physical that I’m not sure it’s a huge deal.
I definitely get the love for him, but I wanna see him against college competition.
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He kind of plays like a smaller KG
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Just getting some time to really look at him. I definitely get what people love, and he looks like a #1 pick to me, but to play some Devil’s advocate:
I don’t think his first step and explosion from a standstill is super elite, but merely just very good. His skill level is high, but when he drives, he seems to have to rely on strength to power past them as he didn’t beat them off the initial step, and they really get into his body.
To his credit though, his ball handling, his ability to handle physicality, and his body control and finishing is fantastic through contact. It might actually ne better for his development that he’s growing up finishing witj lots of contact as opposed to it not happening to him until he gets to the league.
He looks more 6’8 than 6’10 to me, but if he’s only 200 pounds I’d be kinda surprised. He has such a strong and sturdy frame, he might be able to pack on much more weight than people are expecting and be even more physically imposing. He might end up closer to 240 than 220. His final form athleticism might be more scary.
His athleticism is great, even if I have a bit of a question about his quick twitchiness(which isn’t to say it’s bad, but I don’t think it’s all time great or whatever), but he looks so smooth, skilled, and physical that I’m not sure it’s a huge deal.
I definitely get the love for him, but I wanna see him against college competition.
Dubantsa’s first step and explosion are on another level from Flagg so what are we doing here. He has Paul George like smoothness to his game that it doesn’t even look like he’s trying.
Step from free throw line and 360 under both legs. And we’re talking about explosion? Lmao, be serious. Plus Dybantsa has the handle, jumper and craftiness to his game that it doesn’t matter
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Just getting some time to really look at him. I definitely get what people love, and he looks like a #1 pick to me, but to play some Devil’s advocate:
I don’t think his first step and explosion from a standstill is super elite, but merely just very good. His skill level is high, but when he drives, he seems to have to rely on strength to power past them as he didn’t beat them off the initial step, and they really get into his body.
To his credit though, his ball handling, his ability to handle physicality, and his body control and finishing is fantastic through contact. It might actually ne better for his development that he’s growing up finishing witj lots of contact as opposed to it not happening to him until he gets to the league.
He looks more 6’8 than 6’10 to me, but if he’s only 200 pounds I’d be kinda surprised. He has such a strong and sturdy frame, he might be able to pack on much more weight than people are expecting and be even more physically imposing. He might end up closer to 240 than 220. His final form athleticism might be more scary.
His athleticism is great, even if I have a bit of a question about his quick twitchiness(which isn’t to say it’s bad, but I don’t think it’s all time great or whatever), but he looks so smooth, skilled, and physical that I’m not sure it’s a huge deal.
I definitely get the love for him, but I wanna see him against college competition.
I agree on all points you have made, I don't think he's a guarantee superstar like many are proclaiming. I really need to see him against college competition, but I definetly see why some people love him.
Me personally I see a ton of Pascal Siakam in the way he plays. I see a little bit of RJ Barrett/Andrew Wiggins in the way he moves around the court... He plays a little upright, he has a high dribble, and he has bounce in his game.
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I think to the degree that people see lack of explosiveness at times, that a lot of it is just that he needs to add strength to his frame. If he comes up against physically developed defenders he can't just power through. I think that as his body develops he will look better in that respect - but lots of reasons to like him a lot.

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