2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Everyone is getting mad at Mosley because of the offense, but my goodness, these guys aren't hitting OPEN shots. These players have to take responsibility and accountability for that.

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Paolo’s mom was a basketball player… she is not just ‘Paolo’s mom’. She was Washington’s all-time leading scorer and was drafted into the WNBA. She has every right to voice her educated opinion.

There are lots of players with parents who played basketball....but that don't mean they need to air their grievances in public. Not this, this cause a riff between the players because now they think the roles are defined based on whose parents or agents are loudest. That's never a good thing in a team sport.

Eh this isn’t like Lonzo Ball’s father just lashing out nonsense. These are pretty evident and true basketball observations.

The players need to voice that to the coach, not the parents.

[VFX]

Everyone is getting mad at Mosley because of the offense, but my goodness, these guys aren't hitting OPEN shots. These players have to take responsibility and accountability for that.

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

A coach with a shred of knowledge on offense with all of those other things would be nice.

Cleveland fires their bad coach and immediately become unstoppable with largely the same roster.

[Knightro]

Everyone is getting mad at Mosley because of the offense, but my goodness, these guys aren't hitting OPEN shots. These players have to take responsibility and accountability for that.

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

Nothing in life is guaranteed.

But theoretically a different coach would bring some actual tactical acumen and some actual X’s and O’s acumen to the table which Mosley does not currently bring.

[3ddman23]

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

A coach with a shred of knowledge on offense with all of those other things would be nice.

Cleveland fires their bad coach and immediately become unstoppable with largely the same roster.

And funny enough, that bad coach has turned around the pistons...funny how it all works lol

[ORLMagicGirl15]

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

Nothing in life is guaranteed.

But theoretically a different coach would bring some actual tactical acumen and some actual X’s and O’s acumen to the table which Mosley does not currently bring.

Not with this roster construction.

[KillMonger]

It's hard to say what's going on right now... The fix could just be getting some competent players around Paolo and Franz.... But would that change mose philosophy? It might not even be his fault in the sense that at some point some teams just need a different voice.... Could that be the case now? According To JI they at least once already had a players only meeting earlier in the year....some fans starting to question mose....even Franz addressed coaching in his own way..... Now paolos mom? It's not an easy fix that's for sure

Sent from my [Sidekick 5G] using RealGM mobile app

[ORLMagicGirl15]

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

A coach with a shred of knowledge on offense with all of those other things would be nice.

Cleveland fires their bad coach and immediately become unstoppable with largely the same roster.

That same bad coach turned the Pistons around and their offense is great. Roster construction is the key and I don't know if this FO know what it wants.

[VFX]

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

A coach with a shred of knowledge on offense with all of those other things would be nice.

Cleveland fires their bad coach and immediately become unstoppable with largely the same roster.

And funny enough, that bad coach has turned around the pistons...funny how it all works lol

Nowhere to go but up!

[rcklsscognition]

Paolo’s mom having some words about Mosely on X

Read on Twitter

[thelead]

Paolo’s mom was a basketball player… she is not just ‘Paolo’s mom’. She was Washington’s all-time leading scorer and was drafted into the WNBA. She has every right to voice her educated opinion.

There are lots of players with parents who played basketball....but that don't mean they need to air their grievances in public. Not this, this cause a riff between the players because now they think the roles are defined based on whose parents or agents are loudest. That's never a good thing in a team sport.

It does make me wonder if these conversations haven’t already occurred behind closed doors. Like that video of Mike Miller with Weltman. Frustrations are definitely boiling over.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

It's hard to say what's going on right now... The fix could just be getting some competent players around Paolo and Franz.... But would that change mose philosophy? It might not even be his fault in the sense that at some point some teams just need a different voice.... Could that be the case now? According To JI they at least once already had a players only meeting earlier in the year....some fans starting to question mose....even Franz addressed coaching in his own way..... Now paolos mom? It's not an easy fix that's for sure

Sent from my [Sidekick 5G] using RealGM mobile app

Their "Player only meeting" was to tell Suggs to lead the team.

[Ducklett]

I think I'm gonna take a break from this Magic social media before I say stuff I don't wanna. Just think we're making the same mistakes we've been making over the last 10 years. People overreact, team makes dumb decisions personnel and coaching wise, we barely improve or get better, people are like "wtf I didn't ask for this" two seasons later (while asking for it) and we become some re-tread team full of panic moves.

Doesn't help I'm caretaking an elderly family member who has had major health issues lately and the last thing I need on top of a physically taxing and stressful day-to-day is something emotionally taxing like a game.

I'll tune into games here and there but the product isn't fun and the discussion seems reductive and short-sighted.

I am right there with you my friend, Been taking care of my dad for about a decade. Good luck with your family member <3.

[89Magicfan]

There are lots of players with parents who played basketball....but that don't mean they need to air their grievances in public. Not this, this cause a riff between the players because now they think the roles are defined based on whose parents or agents are loudest. That's never a good thing in a team sport.

Eh this isn’t like Lonzo Ball’s father just lashing out nonsense. These are pretty evident and true basketball observations.

The players need to voice that to the coach, not the parents.

Think they have. Think over the last few weeks many things have been voiced and I think it’s all coming to a point where people who give a **** or tired of it.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Weltman really should have made a trade at the trade deadline.

[89Magicfan]

Weltman really should have made a trade at the trade deadline.

Absolutely. Deadline this past off season, he should’ve done a lot more. We were a playoff team who needed experience, shooting, and a starting PG.

[Fortune Teller]

Everyone is getting mad at Mosley because of the offense, but my goodness, these guys aren't hitting OPEN shots. These players have to take responsibility and accountability for that.

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

I’m not sure it’s possible to keep getting guys to do the energy/effort thing for multiple seasons when the shooting is this bad. Eventually players reach a breaking point when there’s no payoff because the shooting is so freaking bad. We’ve all seen the stats. How long are these guys going to kill themselves on defense when they keep clanking it on the other end? Mosley hasn’t changed his coaching, these guys have just worn down. You can see it in their faces. They know what everyone is saying about them. It’s literally one of the worst shooting teams ever. Not to mention the 2 high-energy guys, Moe and Jalen, are out, and that stuff is infectious.

[KillMonger]

Weltman really should have made a trade at the trade deadline.

Yeah that's an understatement... Plus what that doctor said about Suggs today makes it even worse that we didn't do anything

Sent from my [Sidekick 5G] using RealGM mobile app

[MagicTownBaller]

I really like Mosley but even I'm on the fence. He's lost this team and unfortunately bad roster construction can cause that.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

No.

People are getting on Mosley (at least I am) because the things the Magic did really well under him in the past (defense, rebounding, effort, physicality) are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than they were last season and even as recently as like December of this season.

The offense has always been bad, that’s frustrating, but that’s not a new development.

What is a new development is the team unable to get stops. What is a new development is the team getting flat outworked in basically every game.

I’ll say it again… if Mosley can’t get these guys to do those effort/energy/togetherness related things he used to be able to get them to do, then he doesn’t need to be here.

And we're sure another coach can get these guys to do effort/energy/togetherness related things?

Nothing in life is guaranteed.

But theoretically a different coach would bring some actual tactical acumen and some actual X’s and O’s acumen to the table which Mosley does not currently bring.

I don't know if it was you or someone else who said it earlier in the year that the effort on defense was hurting the offense and they can't keep that up much longer. And now it's effecting both. I remembered earlier when we knew a defensive stomping was coming up in the 3rd or 4th quarter, now....nothing. And it's the same team, without Suggs. But if Suggs is that important, if our entire season is down the drain because Suggs is out....then our roster construction is horrible.