2025 NBA Draft Class

[azcatz11]

Liam McNeely has 31 (and counting) tonight against Creighton. He heard your slander. Hope this is the start of some more consistent play the rest of the year.

Nice - that's funny. I like the kid and he's obviously talented. I just had noticed they peeled off a few good wins when he was out...that was all

Keep slandering, if this will make him play like he did tonight. 37 big ones.

I found McNeelys comp. Tristan da Silva. McNeely is a bettter shooter though

[Chi town]

Nice - that's funny. I like the kid and he's obviously talented. I just had noticed they peeled off a few good wins when he was out...that was all

Keep slandering, if this will make him play like he did tonight. 37 big ones.

I found McNeelys comp. Tristan da Silva. McNeely is a bettter shooter though

And 3 years younger.

Liam just hasn’t shown anything on ball. He’d have to become an elite movement shooter to be worth a lottery pick.

[azcatz11]

Keep slandering, if this will make him play like he did tonight. 37 big ones.

I found McNeelys comp. Tristan da Silva. McNeely is a bettter shooter though

And 3 years younger.

Liam just hasn’t shown anything on ball. He’d have to become an elite movement shooter to be worth a lottery pick.

Who would you draft higher - Liam or will Riley?

[Chi town]

I found McNeelys comp. Tristan da Silva. McNeely is a bettter shooter though

And 3 years younger.

Liam just hasn’t shown anything on ball. He’d have to become an elite movement shooter to be worth a lottery pick.

Who would you draft higher - Liam or will Riley?

Riley all day. Liam is a winner and competitor but is very limited. Nothing on ball.

Riley is weak and skinny but has legit on ball chops and playmaking. They can both shoot.

Liam will look better years 1-2 in the league but Riley will get stronger and be better thereafter.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Keep slandering, if this will make him play like he did tonight. 37 big ones.

I found McNeelys comp. Tristan da Silva. McNeely is a bettter shooter though

And 3 years younger.

Liam just hasn’t shown anything on ball. He’d have to become an elite movement shooter to be worth a lottery pick.

it's the system. They have multiple vets with ball handling responsibilities and freshmen just have to play their defined roles. Happened to Castle as well. Though, I never thought of him as anything more than a connective passing 3 and D at the next level anyway but we might have seen more on-ball had he gone elsewhere. I think he's definitely a lottery talent and could go top 10. He'll likely have the same role as Keegan Murray, Dick, Cam Johnson at the next level and while that's a #3 at best but more likely a #4, because everyone needs wings that can shoot I can't imagine he falls out of the lottery.

[Chi town]

Rutgers is so hard to watch. Horribly coached team.

Ace is so misused and his teammates can never get him the ball or look for him. Believe quite a bit of his potential is being hidden there. Is athleticism and hustle flashes more and more. Believe us ceiling is higher than what I’ve been thinking due to how bad his situation is. With Harper there he just takes it himself. Ace doesn’t get those reps.

[JustBuzzin]

Rutgers is so hard to watch. Horribly coached team.

Ace is so misused and his teammates can never get him the ball or look for him. Believe quite a bit of his potential is being hidden there. Is athleticism and hustle flashes more and more. Believe us ceiling is higher than what I’ve been thinking due to how bad his situation is. With Harper there he just takes it himself. Ace doesn’t get those reps.

I say this a lot on the Hornets board. That HC sucks and they clearly lack talent.

Harper is the real deal tho. Bailey will be much better as a pro he has the skill set to be a all-star.

[crows2]

imagine thinking that means anything especially in the middle of February.

2021 Johnson was mocked in the top 10 and he fell to 20
2022 Griffin was mocked in top 10 and he fell to 16
2023 Whitmore was mocked in the top 10 and fell to 20
2024 Knecht mocked top 10 and fell to 17

How many of those were mocked top 5? Ive seen Edgecomb as high as 3 and the season is almost over.

From memory Whitmore had health issues and his pre draft workouts werent great. Knecht might have been the oldest player in the draft which some teams dont like. Jalen Johnson quit Duke in the middle of the season. Quitting on Coach K was seen as a red flag to a lot of people. Those are just odd circumstances which aren't relevant.

If it comes out that VJ has a chronic injury then of course his draft stock could fall. That is true of almost any player.

I have VJ firmly in my top 4 and see him as the best defensive prospect in this draft. The games I have watched he really was a defensive playmaker. Had some takeover moments on defense.
Even if he ends up as someone as Bennedict Mathurin on offense, his defense will be next level IMO.

Also WIll RIley is slowly sneaking into my lottery. I am amazed by his patience on his finishes. How he absorbs contact and then finds a way to finish the play.

Flagg is the best defensive prospect in this class and to argue otherwise is simply disingenuous.

[CptCrunch]

Big board for Feb 2025

Tier 1:
Cooper

Tier 1.5:
Harper

Tier 2:
Bailey
Jaku
VJ

Tier 3:
Queen
Maluach
Tre
Kon
Asa
Traore

Getting #3 means missing out. I think Harper is pretty damn close in terms of a great #1 pick.

[The-Power]

Flagg is the best defensive prospect in this class and to argue otherwise is simply disingenuous.

It's definitely not that clear-cut. To argue that anyone with a different opinion is being disingenuous shows that you're probably not acting rationally in this debate.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Haven't seen a draft like this since 2019 where the top is so good and then it just instantly falls off a cliff.

VJ probably has to be the #3 pick, but man, he projects to be a super average role player who has to play next to a big PG like Cade or Luka.

[Chi town]

Thoughts on Kalbrenner?

See some Brook Lopez.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Rutgers is so hard to watch. Horribly coached team.

Ace is so misused and his teammates can never get him the ball or look for him. Believe quite a bit of his potential is being hidden there. Is athleticism and hustle flashes more and more. Believe us ceiling is higher than what I’ve been thinking due to how bad his situation is. With Harper there he just takes it himself. Ace doesn’t get those reps.

their teammates are legit garbage and coaching doesn't help but some of their issues are due to Ace having tunnel vision and Harper having an inconsistent motor and being a bad, disinterested defender. They do not compliment each other's game at all imho. Regardless, with how talented they're touted as being they shouldn't be this bad but maybe they're just not as talented as we're making them out to be. I can't remember a team with two of the top 3 players ever being on the same bad team before.

[EvanZ]

Adou Thiero seems pretty interesting.

[Chi town]

Rutgers is so hard to watch. Horribly coached team.

Ace is so misused and his teammates can never get him the ball or look for him. Believe quite a bit of his potential is being hidden there. Is athleticism and hustle flashes more and more. Believe us ceiling is higher than what I’ve been thinking due to how bad his situation is. With Harper there he just takes it himself. Ace doesn’t get those reps.

their teammates are legit garbage and coaching doesn't help but some of their issues are due to Ace having tunnel vision and Harper having an inconsistent motor and being a bad, disinterested defender. They do not compliment each other's game at all imho. Regardless, with how talented they're touted as being they shouldn't be this bad but maybe they're just not as talented as we're making them out to be. I can't remember a team with two of the top 3 players ever being on the same bad team before.

Harper is a good scorer but not a great PG yet. He doesn’t even look at Ace most of the time. The teammates all play for themselves and have awful IQ.

Harper and Ace def don’t know how to win yet.

[greg4012]

Haven't seen a draft like this since 2019 where the top is so good and then it just instantly falls off a cliff.

VJ probably has to be the #3 pick, but man, he projects to be a super average role player who has to play next to a big PG like Cade or Luka.

Can someone help me understand why it's basically a foregone conclusion by many that VJ has subpar SG size?

I'd be surprised if he's less than 6'4 without shoes.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Haven't seen a draft like this since 2019 where the top is so good and then it just instantly falls off a cliff.

VJ probably has to be the #3 pick, but man, he projects to be a super average role player who has to play next to a big PG like Cade or Luka.

Can someone help me understand why it's basically a foregone conclusion by many that VJ has subpar SG size?

I'd be surprised if he's less than 6'4 without shoes.

to answer your question most people believe (me included) he'll measure 6'3" at best without shoes.

[CptCrunch]

Haven't seen a draft like this since 2019 where the top is so good and then it just instantly falls off a cliff.

VJ probably has to be the #3 pick, but man, he projects to be a super average role player who has to play next to a big PG like Cade or Luka.

Can someone help me understand why it's basically a foregone conclusion by many that VJ has subpar SG size?

I'd be surprised if he's less than 6'4 without shoes.

Based on NBA Draft notes; https://www.nbadraft.net/players/vj-edgecombe/

> Notes: Measured: 6’3″, 8’3″ standing reach, 188 lbs, 6’5″ wingspan at the 2024 Nike Hoop Summit

Being a +1 aged prospect; less likely for him to grow another inch by age 20-21 like some prospects. If VJ was ideal like 6'7" with 7' wingspan, he would be #2 over Harper.

[Chi town]

Haven't seen a draft like this since 2019 where the top is so good and then it just instantly falls off a cliff.

VJ probably has to be the #3 pick, but man, he projects to be a super average role player who has to play next to a big PG like Cade or Luka.

Can someone help me understand why it's basically a foregone conclusion by many that VJ has subpar SG size?

I'd be surprised if he's less than 6'4 without shoes.

Based on NBA Draft notes; https://www.nbadraft.net/players/vj-edgecombe/

> Notes: Measured: 6’3″, 8’3″ standing reach, 188 lbs, 6’5″ wingspan at the 2024 Nike Hoop Summit

Being a +1 aged prospect; less likely for him to grow another inch by age 20-21 like some prospects. If VJ was ideal like 6'7" with 7' wingspan, he would be #2 over Harper.

That 6’3 without shoes?

I sure hope so.

[Dat2U]

Thoughts on Kalbrenner?

See some Brook Lopez.

Older prospect.Too slow to defend. Dominates weak competition, struggles against better comp. Guys at his age and size should be very dominant by stage.