2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

[Slim Charless]

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He grew up in Detroit and probably was watching those Chauncy Billips teams as a kid. We know he's a Lions fan. Cade is the perfect partner for him too. I think that's the best solution for all parties.

Providing we can get our picks from Houston via a KD trade.

[Slim Charless]

Gambo about potential KD trades:

Only team that makes sense to me. They can give us Jalen Green, Jabari Smith and Tari Eason plus two picks - KD gets to play for Udoka and just show up they have leaders - Van Vleet, Brooks plus great players in Thompson and Sengun - Glue guys in place.

I think he would love to play for Udoka

That would be a great trade IMO but in that scenario we would need to trade Beal for sure.

Jabari Smith is now on a tough position because Amen Thompson has stolen his starting spot and we could give him that PF spot here. He is soft and he needs to improve his all-around game but he is talented and has high potential yet.

I like Eason but I think probably the Rockets wouldn't trade him with Jabari out. They would prefer to give us Whitmore, but I would be OK with him too. Microwave scorer.

And Jalen Green + 2 FRPs...I don't know. Probably it's even too good for us because Jalen Green has STAR potential. I think the Rockets will try to give us FVV over Jalen Green.

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

[Rebound Mound]

Gambo about potential KD trades:

Only team that makes sense to me. They can give us Jalen Green, Jabari Smith and Tari Eason plus two picks - KD gets to play for Udoka and just show up they have leaders - Van Vleet, Brooks plus great players in Thompson and Sengun - Glue guys in place.

I think he would love to play for Udoka

That would be a great trade IMO but in that scenario we would need to trade Beal for sure.

Jabari Smith is now on a tough position because Amen Thompson has stolen his starting spot and we could give him that PF spot here. He is soft and he needs to improve his all-around game but he is talented and has high potential yet.

I like Eason but I think probably the Rockets wouldn't trade him with Jabari out. They would prefer to give us Whitmore, but I would be OK with him too. Microwave scorer.

And Jalen Green + 2 FRPs...I don't know. Probably it's even too good for us because Jalen Green has STAR potential. I think the Rockets will try to give us FVV over Jalen Green.

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

If the Rockets trade Jabari, Jalen and/or Tari and two picks for a 37 YO KD with one year under contract (even if he agrees to sigh a longer deal), then I would call them the Suns. One should be stupid to trade two or three young players and draft assets for a 37 yo player, even if he is playing great as KD is playing now.

[JRoy]

HOU isn’t doing that.

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KD will probably play as long or maybe longer than Bron who is 40 currently and showing very few signs of slowing down.

[BobbieL]

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He grew up in Detroit and probably was watching those Chauncy Billips teams as a kid. We know he's a Lions fan. Cade is the perfect partner for him too. I think that's the best solution for all parties.

Providing we can get our picks from Houston via a KD trade.

Come on Devin - ask for a trade! Please

That report about Booker not being traded unless he asks out. Which by the way, is lunacy. Booker on Detroit would be ideal

Durant to Houston

Beal will be the shooting guard next year - see if he can score 30ppg and maybe create a one year option as an expiring

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HOU isn’t doing that.

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Thoughts on this? Would yall shed a tear losing Billups?

[KLEON]

Seeing Luka tear it up with the Lakers, combined with what's going on with this owner snorting our franchise down the drain, really makes me question whether I should continue to have any interest in this league.

I said at the beginning of this season that we needed Bol to step up in order to compete. Based on the stats - because I can't bear to watch this trash- Bol stepped up, but Bud refused to play him until the season was already over.

Meanwhile, if I didn't know anything and you asked whether Durant or Booker was older based on their play, I might guess wrong. Our boy looks washed.

Meanwhile, for all the hate James Jones gets for his draft picks, Ty Jerome is about to win 6MOY while Toumani Camara is the best player on the Blazers.

This franchise is awful. We're about to be the Wizards of the West.

If I'm not out, I might just have to become a troll, because what else is there? Delusion?

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I remember saying a couple years ago that he could be our Steve Nash but ppl laughed at me

[BobbieL]

Gambo about potential KD trades:

Only team that makes sense to me. They can give us Jalen Green, Jabari Smith and Tari Eason plus two picks - KD gets to play for Udoka and just show up they have leaders - Van Vleet, Brooks plus great players in Thompson and Sengun - Glue guys in place.

I think he would love to play for Udoka

That would be a great trade IMO but in that scenario we would need to trade Beal for sure.

Jabari Smith is now on a tough position because Amen Thompson has stolen his starting spot and we could give him that PF spot here. He is soft and he needs to improve his all-around game but he is talented and has high potential yet.

I like Eason but I think probably the Rockets wouldn't trade him with Jabari out. They would prefer to give us Whitmore, but I would be OK with him too. Microwave scorer.

And Jalen Green + 2 FRPs...I don't know. Probably it's even too good for us because Jalen Green has STAR potential. I think the Rockets will try to give us FVV over Jalen Green.

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

I just don't see Houston trading all three of those players: Green, Smith and Eason plus draft picks for Durant.

I agree with you that Whitmore might be the player. I personally would be happy with Green Smith and whatever with two of the Suns own picks back.

[BobbieL]

HOU isn’t doing that.

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Thoughts on this? Would yall shed a tear losing Billups?

Why would Billups leave Portland for the Suns?

[KLEON]

Wait!, the Wiz really considered trading for Beal at the deadline?

[JRoy]

HOU isn’t doing that.

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Thoughts on this? Would yall shed a tear losing Billups?

No. Not at all.

He was a bad hire from day one. Should have hired Becky from SAS

[Saberestar]

Gambo about potential KD trades:

Only team that makes sense to me. They can give us Jalen Green, Jabari Smith and Tari Eason plus two picks - KD gets to play for Udoka and just show up they have leaders - Van Vleet, Brooks plus great players in Thompson and Sengun - Glue guys in place.

I think he would love to play for Udoka

That would be a great trade IMO but in that scenario we would need to trade Beal for sure.

Jabari Smith is now on a tough position because Amen Thompson has stolen his starting spot and we could give him that PF spot here. He is soft and he needs to improve his all-around game but he is talented and has high potential yet.

I like Eason but I think probably the Rockets wouldn't trade him with Jabari out. They would prefer to give us Whitmore, but I would be OK with him too. Microwave scorer.

And Jalen Green + 2 FRPs...I don't know. Probably it's even too good for us because Jalen Green has STAR potential. I think the Rockets will try to give us FVV over Jalen Green.

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

IDK...I think that Dillon Brooks has a pretty high value around the league. He is playing very well this season and he is in his prime.

I would love to get him because he is nice player to have next to Book if we are gonna retain him.

But yeah...we probably want Jalen Green, they probably want us to take FVV and at the end we agree to get Dillon Brooks.

[DirtyDez]

KD is picking his next team Shams said as much. KD has already played multiple seasons with Kyrie & Klay and played with AD on team USA. Houston has better assets but he’ll want to play with more established stars. Unless he thinks hitching his wagon to Wemby and making a playoff run will boost his legacy I see Dallas as the likely landing spot. We don’t have much leverage.

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[Slim Charless]

Gambo about potential KD trades:



That would be a great trade IMO but in that scenario we would need to trade Beal for sure.

Jabari Smith is now on a tough position because Amen Thompson has stolen his starting spot and we could give him that PF spot here. He is soft and he needs to improve his all-around game but he is talented and has high potential yet.

I like Eason but I think probably the Rockets wouldn't trade him with Jabari out. They would prefer to give us Whitmore, but I would be OK with him too. Microwave scorer.

And Jalen Green + 2 FRPs...I don't know. Probably it's even too good for us because Jalen Green has STAR potential. I think the Rockets will try to give us FVV over Jalen Green.

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

IDK...I think that Dillon Brooks has a pretty high value around the league. He is playing very well this season and he is in his prime.

I would love to get him because he is nice player to have next to Book if we are gonna retain him.

But yeah...we probably want Jalen Green, they probably want us to take FVV and at the end we agree to get Dillon Brooks.

I think Amen can do everything he does and then some. Jalen can score and that will be useful with Durant there. FVV is the PG as Reed isn't ready. Brooks is the odd man out.

Take him and Jabari plus our picks. Then hopefully move him to Detroit with Booker. If not, then sure his defense will be fine here if we keep Booker.

[Saberestar]

Wait!, the Wiz really considered trading for Beal at the deadline?

Yeah, it was reported by Gambo that the only two teams willing to get Beal on a deal were the Wizards and the Hawks.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I think these scenarios about getting our picks back from HOU (or the Wiz, for that matter) are a daydream. If I'm a Rockets fan, I'd want to keep the picks. Wouldn't you?

It's been obvious for decades that the best way to build a team is to stockpile draft picks and do your best to roll them forward so you're always bringing in the best young talent at the lowest possible cost. I was shocked that front offices didn't take this approach earlier - but now, it seems to have caught on, with the Thunder, Rockets and Jazz leading the way, with the Spurs positioned to follow.

First came analytics as applied to play style and teambuilding. Now, I think the day has truly arrived as front offices embrace the obvious solution to the problem of avoiding the boom-bust cycle of team building. Sadly, we can't truly join that party for another 6 years.

Is it a silver lining that Ishbia really *can't* tank? Might as well work hard to develop talent that could eventually be valuable in trade if our ceiling is the play-in. Least wasteful way to waste our time, I guess?

[Saberestar]

If they get KD, then they're win now and will value FVV. Brooks seems more likely to move or Jalen. They won't need Brooks, they have Amen for defense. I agree about Eason. Don't see them giving both him and Jabari as they need PF play and someone to play when KD misses games-and he will.

IDK...I think that Dillon Brooks has a pretty high value around the league. He is playing very well this season and he is in his prime.

I would love to get him because he is nice player to have next to Book if we are gonna retain him.

But yeah...we probably want Jalen Green, they probably want us to take FVV and at the end we agree to get Dillon Brooks.

I think Amen can do everything he does and then some. Jalen can score and that will be useful with Durant there. FVV is the PG as Reed isn't ready. Brooks is the odd man out.

Take him and Jabari plus our picks. Then hopefully move him to Detroit with Booker. If not, then sure his defense will be fine here if we keep Booker.

You never have too many good two-way players. Amen + Dillon better than Amen alone.

Not sure about how we would value or how they would value Reed. He is having a (somewhat) disappointment rookie season but he can explode in the future.

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[KdoubleDees23]

Booker to Detroit for Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Isaiah Stewart, and 1st round

KD to Houston for Amen Thompson, Brooks, Adams, and Suns 1st back.

Gives the suns.

PG - this next draft
Beal - Brooks
Thompson - Thompson
Harris - Dunn
Adams - Stewart