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Post#1601 » by Archx » Mon Mar 3, 2025 1:40 am

If anyone is interested how Nico completely screwed up the roster in just 1 week, this is an excellent read.

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Post#1602 » by kanofwindHK » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:45 am

Teffer10 wrote:With this being Brown's last game as a Mav, I think we should get Sharp on a 2way and dump Kelly. He should have been there already.

Now Lakers will sign Brown and pour more salt on our wounds.

Mavs choose Kai Jones instead
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Post#1603 » by boogiezen » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:57 am

Watch Nico will trade the young asset in Lively plus depth for 37-year-old KD in the off-season.
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Post#1604 » by Teffer10 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:05 am

boogiezen wrote:Watch Nico will trade the young asset in Lively plus depth for 37-year-old KD in the off-season.

Lively, PJ, and Christie should be untouchable in any KD trade. I wouldnt even want our 2025 pick included.
Klay/Naji/Gafford/Omax/Hardy would be about the most I would offer if I'm Nico.
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Post#1605 » by Bob8 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:28 am

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boogiezen wrote:Watch Nico will trade the young asset in Lively plus depth for 37-year-old KD in the off-season.

Lively, PJ, and Christie should be untouchable in any KD trade. I wouldnt even want our 2025 pick included.
Klay/Naji/Gafford/Omax/Hardy would be about the most I would offer if I'm Nico.


Suns expect and will get a lot more. Nico will at least needed to include PJ and 2-3 FRPs.

Suns new owner destroyed Suns in 1 season. I expect the same from Nico and Mavs owners. Even the situation is similar. Suns had great young core and have won 64 games in previous RS, new owner comes and he's the smartest person in the room. Mavs went to the Finals. Somehow that was a trigger for both franchises to gamble everything away. Suns are dead for the next decade, trading for KD will be just the last nail in the Mavs coffin.
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Post#1606 » by ACMFFL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:41 am

Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market
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Post#1607 » by Bob8 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:48 am

ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market


It depends how this playoffs go. Rockets might be willing to pay a lot, if they fail, which is very probable. And they can afford to get KD with al the assets they have, including Suns FRPs. The same goes with Mavs, Nico will be very motivated to go all in. He can't afford another bad season. He said himself that he doesn't care what happens after few years, so KD with few years left is perfect player for him.
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Post#1608 » by ACMFFL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:50 am

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ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market


It depends how this playoffs go. Rockets might be willing to pay a lot, if they fail, which is very probable. And they can afford to get KD with al the assets they have, including Suns FRPs. The same goes with Mavs, Nico will be very motivated to go all in. He can't afford another bad season.


I think Rockets would move PHX picks only for Book, not for KD who doesnt fit their timeline.

In this new apron environment we are living now I dont think there are a lot of suitors willing to pay premium assets for a 37 years old supermax player

In a vacuum Mavs should not even consider to pay anything more than Klay/PJ/Gaff/1FRP, but ofc everything could happen under this pathetic management.
Not even my favourite path, it doesnt work anymore to build your team around 3 supermax players with little depth, just the most likely and logical outcome imo.
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Post#1609 » by Bob8 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:07 am

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ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market


It depends how this playoffs go. Rockets might be willing to pay a lot, if they fail, which is very probable. And they can afford to get KD with al the assets they have, including Suns FRPs. The same goes with Mavs, Nico will be very motivated to go all in. He can't afford another bad season.


I think Rockets would move PHX picks only for Book, not for KD who doesnt fit their timeline.

In this new apron environment we are living now I dont think there are a lot of suitors willing to pay premium assets for a 37 years old supermax player

In a vacuum Mavs should not even consider to pay anything more than Klay/PJ/Gaff/1FRP, but ofc everything could happen under this pathetic management.
Not even my favourite path, it doesnt work anymore to build your team around 3 supermax players with little depth, just the most likely and logical outcome imo.


Suns will foremost want some picks back and eventually some young talent. Klay/PJ/Gaff don't help them rebuild or contend, so I doubt that will be enough. Rockets are in great position to contend and still have young core, even if they trade for KD. They would rather had Booker and pay more for him, but on the other hand KD is better player at the moment and cheaper too, they can for sure offer more than Mavs, unless our idiot will offer Lively and/or all picks for him. I'm sure he will need to pay more than Lakers did for Luka.
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Post#1610 » by ACMFFL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 12:58 pm

Idk they could retool around Book with that package, and considering that their 2026 pick is owned by multiple teams (last favorable of MEM/ORL/PHX/WAS) they can't even properly tank, and Ishbia looks too stubborn and delusional to tear down the team.

But yeah, we cant rule out anything, all of Lively/Christie/2029 LAL 1st/2031 DAL 1st will be safe with a competent FO, but that's not Dallas. I'm afraid too we end up overpaying big time for granpa KD.
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Post#1611 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:44 pm

I prefer to pay for Booker over 37yo KD.

Irving-Booker-PJ-AD-Lively is a good lineup.
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Post#1612 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:26 pm

The Durant situation is tricky. One is his age, obviously, but at 37 he's still good for 27 ppg, and still a star compared to whatever Dallas has in the roster outside of Kyrie and AD. He will cost a lot to get, duh because he's not a role player. You're not getting Dorian Finney Smith. That's Kevin Durant. You're not going to leave the guy wide open. You still need to guard him.

The tricky part is teams like OKC are also in the mix. If OKC gets him then you get a tougher road ahead. Everybody else gets better. Might as well be you than them, for me. Kyrie, KD, and AD still makes you a contender. If the goal is to win a ring, and Nico already placed his chips on the table, might as well go all in. My two cents.
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Post#1613 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:27 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:I prefer to pay for Booker over 37yo KD.

Irving-Booker-PJ-AD-Lively is a good lineup.



Hmmmm. Booker is an interesting angle. Never thought about this.

But with Booker, PJ is most likely included in the mix.
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Post#1614 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:28 pm

ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market



I'd add another FRP just to beat OKC's offer.

KD + Kyrie + AD still puts you in a really good position for a finals run. No matter what other people say.

I think if you are able to get Kevin Durant and keep Christie and Lively, you take it.

If you put yourself in the opposing team's shoes, you have to guard KD's fadeaway jumper that's 10 feet high on release, then you have to worry about Kyrie and AD running around. You don't want that problem in a 7 game series.
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Post#1615 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:40 pm

arkuo wrote:The Durant situation is tricky. One is his age, obviously, but at 37 he's still good for 27 ppg, and still a star compared to whatever Dallas has in the roster outside of Kyrie and AD. He will cost a lot to get, duh because he's not a role player. You're not getting Dorian Finney Smith. That's Kevin Durant. You're not going to leave the guy wide open. You still need to guard him.

The tricky part is teams like OKC are also in the mix. If OKC gets him then you get a tougher road ahead. Everybody else gets better. Might as well be you than them, for me. Kyrie, KD, and AD still makes you a contender. If the goal is to win a ring, and Nico already placed his chips on the table, might as well go all in. My two cents.


KD is 1 injury away to end of career and his defense at 37 yo is almost vanished.

But ok, Mavs are done for a decade so try a miracle could have sense.

Honestly it's a suicide and Suns/Nets/Phila should teach how NOT build a contender.

It's all a no sense, i can't believe it.
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Post#1616 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:04 pm

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arkuo wrote:The Durant situation is tricky. One is his age, obviously, but at 37 he's still good for 27 ppg, and still a star compared to whatever Dallas has in the roster outside of Kyrie and AD. He will cost a lot to get, duh because he's not a role player. You're not getting Dorian Finney Smith. That's Kevin Durant. You're not going to leave the guy wide open. You still need to guard him.

The tricky part is teams like OKC are also in the mix. If OKC gets him then you get a tougher road ahead. Everybody else gets better. Might as well be you than them, for me. Kyrie, KD, and AD still makes you a contender. If the goal is to win a ring, and Nico already placed his chips on the table, might as well go all in. My two cents.


KD is 1 injury away to end of career and his defense at 37 yo is almost vanished.

But ok, Mavs are done for a decade so try a miracle could have sense.

Honestly it's a suicide and Suns/Nets/Phila should teach how NOT build a contender.

It's all a no sense, i can't believe it.


Yeah Mavs are done when Kyrie and AD retire. Nico placed all his chips on the table now. Might as well go all in. If holding back for the future was an option for him, his dumbass would have kept Luka.

It's not total suicide. KD and Kyrie worked together i BKN. It's just that Kyrie has issues with the vaccine and media kept hounding him about Jews that ran him out of town. But for those games they had together, it was similar to Luka with Kai. The problem here is with AD if he's willing to accept the Kevin Love / Chris Bosh role. And that is sacrificing a lot if you ask me. But if he's willing to, oh boy that is still a team you don't want to see in a seven game series.
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Post#1617 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:09 pm

Nico sacrificed the whole franchise's future by trading away Luka. So trying to get KD is almost a must-do for him now. He already made his bed. We know how this is gonna go. He can't stop right before he crosses the finish line. You gotta go all in now. With those 3 earning so much, I couldn't care less to be honest. Let Dumont and Adelson pay for the bill. They signed off on that trade, didn't they. So they have to bring out the check book now. Baseball has the Steinbrenners of New York. I'd like to see Dumont walk the talk. Pay them.
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Post#1618 » by arkuo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:14 pm

Getting AD and KD on top of Kyrie is Dumont's penalty for skipping out on paying the supermax to Luka. I don't see why I should help them save money.

Pay KD. Walk the talk.
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Post#1619 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:15 pm

arkuo wrote:Nico sacrificed the whole franchise's future by trading away Luka. So trying to get KD is almost a must-do for him now. He already made his bed. We know how this is gonna go. He can't stop right before he crosses the finish line. You gotta go all in now. With those 3 earning so much, I couldn't care less to be honest. Let Dumont and Adelson pay for the bill. They signed off on that trade, didn't they. So they have to bring out the check book now. Baseball has the Steinbrenners of New York. I'd like to see Dumont walk the talk. Pay them.


Yes i agree with your post, Harrison will be forced to go all in. No matter what (and i'm scared about how many assets he will trade).
And i'm not even so sure what Kyrie will do this summer.

But it's a 99% failure. Let's be honest.
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Post#1620 » by ACMFFL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:24 pm

arkuo wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:Honestly I doubt expiring 37 years old KD would fetch more than PJ/Gaff/Klay/1FRP on the market



I'd add another FRP just to beat OKC's offer.

KD + Kyrie + AD still puts you in a really good position for a finals run. No matter what other people say.

I think if you are able to get Kevin Durant and keep Christie and Lively, you take it.

If you put yourself in the opposing team's shoes, you have to guard KD's fadeaway jumper that's 10 feet high on release, then you have to worry about Kyrie and AD running around. You don't want that problem in a 7 game series.


I dont think OKC is interested in adding a supermax player, and Idk if KD would want to come back to Oklahoma. But I agree, I can see Mr. Harrison throwing in an additional pick.
I feel Mavs are his favourite destination considering that he would still be the main guy here in Dallas and ofc his freindship with Kyrie. And on paper it looks like a legit contender.

It's a huge, gargantuan risk for the Mavs, adding another aging injury prone player under this incompetent medical staff makes me very nervous, but at this juncture KD to Dallas feels inevitable.
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