2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

mkot · Post #1681 » by **mkot** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:46 pm

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Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay? :lol:

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1682 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:50 pm

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Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay?

the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

mkot · Post #1683 » by **mkot** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:02 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
mkot wrote:
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Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay?

the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job? :lol:

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

thamadkant · Post #1684 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:13 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Djedefre wrote:Every project with Booker at the helm has failed for us. Why should anyone think it's going to be different this time. He can not lead us anywhere, he's just not good enough. We don't have enough chips to bring a better player than him, a proper leader, so why even bother trying to 'stay competitive'. It's so foolish. We're losing more and more years in mediocricy. This is preposterous.

Booker is just not a true franchise player! And the fact that do many fans promote him as our franchise player just speaks to why no other teams take us seriously!

He's a great offensive player and talent, and one of my favorite players. But he's more of a 2nd tier 1B star like a Steve Smith, Mitch Richmond or a Brandon Roy before the leg/ knee issues ended his career.

He's just good enough to keep us outside the top of the lottery, but not good enough or truly elite enough to carry this team to a championship.

And even when we help by adding supposed high end star players, it's always older, mostly washed stars that are past their primes or in decline.

Whoa.

Brandon Roy >> Booker.

Booker is a better looking Lavine with a nice looking shot. That is all.

thamadkant · Post #1685 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:14 pm

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Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay?

He meant past deadline, that's how I read that.

So he meant a big move also... not tiny moves.

dremill24 · Post #1686 » by **dremill24** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:35 pm

mkot wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
mkot wrote:
Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay?

the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job?

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

Thats a different Isiah Thomas...

mkot · Post #1687 » by **mkot** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:39 pm

dremill24 wrote:
mkot wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job?

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

Thats a different Isiah Thomas...

Ah okay

I thought it was weird and irony for Isiah Thomas of all people to come out and say the Suns are disconnected and needed to make a move...

Slim Charless · Post #1688 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:50 pm

dremill24 wrote:
mkot wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job?

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

Thats a different Isiah Thomas...

Yeah that's one that played for us.

SunsRback4Good · Post #1689 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:51 pm

mkot wrote:
dremill24 wrote:
mkot wrote:
But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job?

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

Thats a different Isiah Thomas...

Ah okay

I thought it was weird and irony for Isiah Thomas of all people to come out and say the Suns are disconnected and needed to make a move...

Is it any different than Kendrick Perkins giving silly takes? Isiah Thomas can have a voice too even if most disagree with his take. God gave us a voice for a reason and we must use it whether we get a backlash for it or not.

mkot · Post #1690 » by **mkot** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:05 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:
mkot wrote:
dremill24 wrote:
Thats a different Isiah Thomas...

Ah okay

I thought it was weird and irony for Isiah Thomas of all people to come out and say the Suns are disconnected and needed to make a move...

Is it any different than Kendrick Perkins giving silly takes? Isiah Thomas can have a voice too even if most disagree with his take. God gave us a voice for a reason and we must use it whether we get a backlash for it or not.

Yes but he is part of this mess too. It's almost like JJ goes to twitter and says the Suns are disconnected as if he is not responsible

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37880678/chris-paul-surprised-trade-wizards-hints-isiah-thomas-had-role

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1691 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:06 pm

mkot wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
mkot wrote:
Deadline? What deadline? Is he okay?

the trade deadline. He stated "They needed to make a move at the deadline"

But they did. 3 major moves including one with Utah's picks.

I just don't know why he needs to bring this up after the deadline has passed. And I thought he's been in Ishibia's ear in building this superteam, and is he now publicly campaigning for JJ's job?

Oh this offseason is going to be legendary.

He is talking KD or something of that nature. Not the crap trades we made

sunsbum · Post #1692 » by **sunsbum** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:13 pm

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like bring in a shrimpy SG thats only listed as a PG because of size?

SunsRback4Good · Post #1693 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:15 pm

mkot wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
mkot wrote:
Ah okay

I thought it was weird and irony for Isiah Thomas of all people to come out and say the Suns are disconnected and needed to make a move...

Is it any different than Kendrick Perkins giving silly takes? Isiah Thomas can have a voice too even if most disagree with his take. God gave us a voice for a reason and we must use it whether we get a backlash for it or not.

Yes but he is part of this mess too. It's almost like JJ goes to twitter and says the Suns are disconnected as if he is not responsible

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37880678/chris-paul-surprised-trade-wizards-hints-isiah-thomas-had-role

Yes, in a way that makes sense.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1694 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:39 pm

KD to OKC for Hartenstein, Dort & 2 firsts
Booker to Houston for Adams,Brooks,Amen

Suns Run

Booker
Beal - Dort
Brooks - Dort
Amen - Dunn
Hartenstein - Adams

Revived · Post #1695 » by **Revived** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:12 pm

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Slim Charless · Post #1696 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:31 pm

DirtyDez wrote:KD is picking his next team Shams said as much. KD has already played multiple seasons with Kyrie & Klay and played with AD on team USA. Houston has better assets but he’ll want to play with more established stars. Unless he thinks hitching his wagon to Wemby and making a playoff run will boost his legacy I see Dallas as the likely landing spot. We don’t have much leverage.

Gafford/PJ/fillers/29’/31’ 1sts (unprotected)

That's loser talk. Not that I'm calling YOU a loser, but that's what one would say.

They're gonna be a pool of a number of teams that he's fine with and we negotiate with those teams. We do not have to take whatever crumbs Dallas offe4s as they try and save themselves from the Luka nightmare.

Slim Charless · Post #1697 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:38 pm

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Shannon went off in that segment. Thinks that we should get Chet and JDubb in the deal. Lol

Post #1698 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:40 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:KD is picking his next team Shams said as much. KD has already played multiple seasons with Kyrie & Klay and played with AD on team USA. Houston has better assets but he’ll want to play with more established stars. Unless he thinks hitching his wagon to Wemby and making a playoff run will boost his legacy I see Dallas as the likely landing spot. We don’t have much leverage.

Gafford/PJ/fillers/29’/31’ 1sts (unprotected)

That's loser talk. Not that I'm calling YOU a loser, but that's what one would say.

They're gonna be a pool of a number of teams that he's fine with and we negotiate with those teams. We do not have to take whatever crumbs Dallas offe4s as they try and save themselves from the Luka nightmare.

Don't be surprised if you're rudely awakened by KD's actual trade value ie what teams are actually willing to pay for a 37yo player on an expiring contract as opposed to what we expect to get.

Mr Puddles · Post #1699 » by **Mr Puddles** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:40 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:KD to OKC for Hartenstein, Dort & 2 firsts
Booker to Houston for Adams,Brooks,Amen

Suns Run

Booker
Beal - Dort
Brooks - Dort
Amen - Dunn
Hartenstein - Adams

Wait so we trade Booker, but we still play him? That's a bold strategy Cotton, I like it!

Slim Charless · Post #1700 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:46 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:KD is picking his next team Shams said as much. KD has already played multiple seasons with Kyrie & Klay and played with AD on team USA. Houston has better assets but he’ll want to play with more established stars. Unless he thinks hitching his wagon to Wemby and making a playoff run will boost his legacy I see Dallas as the likely landing spot. We don’t have much leverage.

Gafford/PJ/fillers/29’/31’ 1sts (unprotected)

That's loser talk. Not that I'm calling YOU a loser, but that's what one would say.

They're gonna be a pool of a number of teams that he's fine with and we negotiate with those teams. We do not have to take whatever crumbs Dallas offe4s as they try and save themselves from the Luka nightmare.

Don't be surprised if you're rudely awakened by KD's actual trade value ie what teams are actually willing to pay for a 37yo player on an expiring contract as opposed to what we expect to get.

We already saw his value.

Jimmy Butler, Jonathan Kuminga, 2 FRPs and multiple swaps and seconds.