Cooper Flagg

[Duke4life831]

His rate of improvement is crazy.

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

[JustBuzzin]

His rate of improvement is crazy.

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

[FrodoBaggins]

His rate of improvement is crazy.

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

Can Melo play off-ball? His shooting would be pretty lethal used as a movement C+S guy, no?

[Duke4life831]

His rate of improvement is crazy.

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

Yup. I said this earlier in this thread. I think whoever drafts him, you just put him in the LeBron/Luka situation. Take away any ball dominant players on the team that will be gunning for themselves.

And you just let Flagg take the early bumps and bruises as the high volume ball handler early on. Because if this dude reaches his ceiling, it will be as your primary ball handler and scorer. Just treat him like he’s your PG going forward.

[JustBuzzin]

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

Can Melo play off-ball? His shooting would be pretty lethal used as a movement C+S guy, no?

He can, I just don't think new ownership and our new GM would want him if we were to get Flagg. I think they would tear it down and start with Flagg as the foundation.

Flagg/Miller would be the core and we go from there.

[Duke4life831]

Ya this to me is probably the biggest positive with him. Said it earlier in this thread. Go back to when he was on the U-17 USA team. He was a defender/rebounder. First year at Montverde, similar thing. Mostly his offense was improving, but he was still mainly an elite defensive guy. Last year at Montverde, he all of sudden is their secondary play maker. His jumper and FTs looked better.

Now, he’s full on point forward. And almost at the point where you should just call him a 6’9 PG. Throw in his FT% is in the high 80s and shooting over 41% from 3 over his last 26 games.

His rate of progression is pretty ridiculous to look at over the last 3 years. And his athleticism is improving as well.

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

Can Melo play off-ball? His shooting would be pretty lethal used as a movement C+S guy, no?

I think the bigger question would be, would Melo be willing to play like that? Also what’s his value as primarily an off ball guy? Melo has been a very high usage on ball guy his entire career.

The funny thing is, a healthy Lonzo is kind of an ideal pairing with Flagg. But the idea of a healthy Lonzo is kind of out of the window

[yosemiteben]

Yep he's a real point forward. To the point he should have the ball and run the offense. It's why if Charlotte happens to get the #1 pick we need to consider trading Melo. Give the keys to Flagg and build around him.

I had AK47 as his pro comp coming into the season. I now see him as Grant Hill. That's a major jump from were I had him coming into the season. He's made me a believer.

Can Melo play off-ball? His shooting would be pretty lethal used as a movement C+S guy, no?

He can, I just don't think new ownership and our new GM would want him if we were to get Flagg.

To be clear, there is absolutely zero evidence suggesting this is true.

[JustBuzzin]

Can Melo play off-ball? His shooting would be pretty lethal used as a movement C+S guy, no?

He can, I just don't think new ownership and our new GM would want him if we were to get Flagg.

To be clear, there is absolutely zero evidence suggesting this is true.

You sure?

I mean these people didn't give Melo a supermax. They didn't draft him. You think they cool with Melo playing 40 games a year?

They already tried to trade Mark who was considered part of our core for the future. I think they would do the same for Melo if it was the right deal.

[yosemiteben]

He can, I just don't think new ownership and our new GM would want him if we were to get Flagg.

To be clear, there is absolutely zero evidence suggesting this is true.

You sure?

Yes, there is literally zero evidence suggesting our FO wants to move Melo.

I mean these people didn't give Melo a supermax. They didn't draft him. You think they cool with Melo playing 40 games a year?

It's kind of ironic that you're using that as evidence that they want to move him and build around Miller, given the fact that Melo is going to play many more games than Brandon this season.

They already tried to trade Mark who was considered part of our core for the future. I think they would do the same for Melo if it was the right deal.

They'd move anyone on this roster for "the right deal," that's not evidence that they're trying to move him.

[tmorgan]

If people like the Grant Hill comp more now, I’d consider this…

At age 24, he might be Karl Hill. That’s utterly frightening.

[JustBuzzin]

To be clear, there is absolutely zero evidence suggesting this is true.

You sure?

Yes, there is literally zero evidence suggesting our FO wants to move Melo.

I mean these people didn't give Melo a supermax. They didn't draft him. You think they cool with Melo playing 40 games a year?

It's kind of ironic that you're using that as evidence that they want to move him and build around Miller, given the fact that Melo is going to play many more games than Brandon this season.

They already tried to trade Mark who was considered part of our core for the future. I think they would do the same for Melo if it was the right deal.

They'd move anyone on this roster for "the right deal," that's not evidence that they're trying to move him.

I could be wrong. Never said I was right my friend.

Simmer down.

[Tor_Raps]

This kid is supposed to be in high school man. How badly would he be schooling everyone in college if he played next season there.

[Duke4life831]

This kid is supposed to be in high school man. How badly would he be schooling everyone in college if he played next season there.

Ya something to think about, Flagg is basically as thing of a draft prospect you can be nowadays.

I don’t think many people realize how many OADs are 20 years old for their draft year.

Just to put things into context. Flagg will be just 9 days older as a rookie than LeBron was.

[HotRocks34]

This guy just turned 18.

He's on a totally different level than I originally thought that he was.

[Ice Man]

Since he turned 18, Flagg's shooting percentages are 86/57/47.

[Bernman]

I pray to the ball gods he doesn't end up in Charlotte. LaMelo's a basketball terrorist & that franchise is moribund. I see no signs of a turnaround, unlike DC. Their draft & trades the last yr made much more sense. They've amassed more talent than 2 guys. And they're a lot more apt to get rid of Poole, who they're less tied to. He also has played a support role on a winner, unlike LaMelo.

[JustBuzzin]

I pray to the ball gods he doesn't end up in Charlotte. LaMelo's a basketball terrorist & that franchise is moribund. I see no signs of a turnaround, unlike DC. Their draft & trades the last yr made much more sense. They've amassed more talent than 2 guys. And they're a lot more apt to get rid of Poole, who they're less tied to. He also has played a support role on a winner, unlike LaMelo.

You realize Charlotte can trade Melo right?

Besides Miller is the best sidekick for a player like Flagg. He has his kick out guy waiting for the 3 in Miller.

[tmorgan]

All this Charlotte hate is a little harsh. I dislike their clown shoes PG and criminal PF, but I have no hate for the city and team itself. Cooper’s exactly the kind of player that can turn that franchise around. Plus. If they trade LaMelo, he’ll have a couple years of zero pressure time to establish himself as a star and leader.

This is exactly what happened in Detroit, by the way. Took them a little time to get Jerami Grant’s ego out of the way, but a nice low pressure runaway gave Cade a chance to take off.

[Bernman]

You realize Charlotte can trade Melo right?

Besides Miller is the best sidekick for a player like Flagg. He has his kick out guy waiting for the 3 in Miller.

You realize he's currently on their team having most their usage & he's a recent high pick of theirs, right? Drafting Salaun & trading Richards for a couple 2nds didn't instill confidence they're a well run franchise now.

I realize you want to look for reasons him being a Hornet would be good as a fan. And I hope for your sake the Hornets would actually do things that make sense to turn it around. But I don't have to believe that as a neutral who is rooting for the kid.

[LakerLegend]

No question he comes out this year right?