NBA Trade Thread #11

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People's dreams never ends. This certainly applies to Bulls fans.

Man, who wants their dreams to end? None of us can actually affect what happens, so why not be optimistic? What's the worst that can happen? Bulls are bad next year. Expected, great, we get another high draft pick. Bulls are great next year. Great, our team full of young guys and our new rookie are beating veteran NBA teams. We still get a draft pick, it's just lower.

The other view. Bulls are bad, "All our young players suck, we overpaid Giddey and Pat, fire AK!". Bulls are good, "Great, we should be tanking, here we go making the playin again! Fire AK!"

We say "Hey, Giannis might be available summer 2026!". None of us are selling our houses betting on it. We don't even expect it to happen, lol. But we can dream.

I say "Giddey's going to be great next year!". I'm not going to be sad if he isn't. But I bet I'm happier all season than the guys who think all the Bulls suck, management sucks, coaching sucks. Don't know why they're even following or watching, I wouldn't watch something to complain and be miserable. But that's just my POV. The glass half empty vs glass half full perspective can greatly affect your appreciation of things in life.

It's sports. We're supposed to be enjoying it.

Amen, Brother.

[kodo]

Kai Jones waived, possible reclamation project? No idea what all the drama was about.

Watch on YouTube

[Infinity2152]

Kai Jones waived, possible reclamation project? No idea what all the drama was about.

Watch on YouTube

Isn't that the guy waived by the Hornets a couple of years ago for going on X and talking crazy? People said he was acting like he was on drugs. Was quoted saying he's better than Lamelo and Brandon Miller to media. Then he asked to be traded. Mav's headache now.

We're a young team with little vet leadership, nobody to check him. Extra dangerous for us to take on a personality headache. He's talented, though.

[Hangtime84]

Some people just don’t want to really work and just want the perks that come from the job’s attention it brings.

He would be labeled a sports lifestyle player.

[Muzbar]

Kai Jones waived, possible reclamation project? No idea what all the drama was about.

Oh gosh no, would rather go after Marjon Beauchamp.

[chrbal]

Kai Jones waived, possible reclamation project? No idea what all the drama was about.

Oh gosh no, would rather go after Marjon Beauchamp.

Because he’s 6’7”?

[Muzbar]

Kai Jones waived, possible reclamation project? No idea what all the drama was about.

Oh gosh no, would rather go after Marjon Beauchamp.

Because he’s 6’7”?

Because he's not a complete mental case.

Also, yes.

[Donkedave]

Can anyone see Vucevic getting traded over the summer or a draft?

Where does he go and what do you think the return is?
Could it be a 2fa1 out or in?

Or can we tie into the Durant trade somehow. Think he’s gonna from PHX

[sco]

Can anyone see Vucevic getting traded over the summer or a draft?

Where does he go and what do you think the return is?
Could it be a 2fa1 out or in?

Or can we tie into the Durant trade somehow. Think he’s gonna from PHX

I'm skeptical, but others here think he'll somehow net a first. The only way I see that happening is by us taking back a longer contract in the deal.

[ChettheJet]

With Vuc, it's best to worry less about the return and more about him being gone. Yes he puts up a double double for you, and he's a decent passer but when have the Bulls ever listened to Stacey King and run the offense through him on the high or low post? Never, so let's look at they type of play Jalen Smith and Zach Collins have brought. Neither is going to get 20 points very often but they rebound on both ends as well as Vuc, they both run the floor a LOT better, they rotate and come out high on defense a lot better. Get me another low cost guy like them so we're 3 deep at center.

For at least next season they don't need to get a center back in a trade for Vuc so if they can get a shooter at the 2, 3, 4 don't rule out somebody with a 2 year contract if you're dealing with a team with extra shooters and maybe has a stockpile of draft picks who can afford to give one in a year or two from now, less for Vuc but clearing that other salary.

The question I've got is with Ayo out for the year do the Bulls have the option to sign a FA or bring up a G League guy to get to 15 active players? There must be some SF/PF out there who can shoot the ball that they're aware of who could come in and they could see how he is in the locker room and limited minutes.

[sco]

With Vuc, it's best to worry less about the return and more about him being gone. Yes he puts up a double double for you, and he's a decent passer but when have the Bulls ever listened to Stacey King and run the offense through him on the high or low post? Never, so let's look at they type of play Jalen Smith and Zach Collins have brought. Neither is going to get 20 points very often but they rebound on both ends as well as Vuc, they both run the floor a LOT better, they rotate and come out high on defense a lot better. Get me another low cost guy like them so we're 3 deep at center.

For at least next season they don't need to get a center back in a trade for Vuc so if they can get a shooter at the 2, 3, 4 don't rule out somebody with a 2 year contract if you're dealing with a team with extra shooters and maybe has a stockpile of draft picks who can afford to give one in a year or two from now, less for Vuc but clearing that other salary.

The question I've got is with Ayo out for the year do the Bulls have the option to sign a FA or bring up a G League guy to get to 15 active players? There must be some SF/PF out there who can shoot the ball that they're aware of who could come in and they could see how he is in the locker room and limited minutes.

Even if they do, I doubt they will. They have Huerter, Terry, Carter, and THT who all can fill that role/minutes.

[Rose2Boozer]

Oh gosh no, would rather go after Marjon Beauchamp.

Because he’s 6’7”?

Because he's not a complete mental case.

Also, yes.

Already signed a two way with the Knicks. That's a good landing spot for him. The Bulls have enough wasted potential on their roster.

[Muzbar]

Because he’s 6’7”?

Because he's not a complete mental case.

Also, yes.

Already signed a two way with the Knicks. That's a good landing spot for him. The Bulls have enough wasted potential on their roster.

Yep. JT Thor would have been a decent get too.

Oh well.

[sco]

Because he's not a complete mental case.

Also, yes.

Already signed a two way with the Knicks. That's a good landing spot for him. The Bulls have enough wasted potential on their roster.

Yep. JT Thor would have been a decent get too.

Oh well.

Meh, we have too many bodies on the current roster to sort through anyway. I would like to see either Huerter bump Coby to the 6th man role to see how that works for the rest of the season (doubtful though). It could bump up Huerter's trade value.

Honestly, I'd be happy to trade both guys in the offseason, and open the door to find a more legit off-ball scoring option.

[kodo]

Can anyone see Vucevic getting traded over the summer or a draft?

Where does he go and what do you think the return is?
Could it be a 2fa1 out or in?

Or can we tie into the Durant trade somehow. Think he’s gonna from PHX

I'm skeptical, but others here think he'll somehow net a first. The only way I see that happening is by us taking back a longer contract in the deal.

Yeah no way, he might have gotten a 1st earlier this year when he was on fire but he's back to earth now.

I think the best possible case for a Vuc trade is going for an overlooked young player versus a draft pick. Vuc isn't going to get you a high pick, and a 25th-30th pick does nothing for us. Giddey was a good buy low candidate. Huerter & Collins look like good buy low guys in a super short sample size.

Who knows when you can get another Zubac. He's one of the best non-star centers in the league IMO and he was traded for Mike Muscala. The only reason they wanted Muscala was he was 6' 10" and could hit 3s. Vuc also hits 3s.

[sco]

Can anyone see Vucevic getting traded over the summer or a draft?

Where does he go and what do you think the return is?
Could it be a 2fa1 out or in?

Or can we tie into the Durant trade somehow. Think he’s gonna from PHX

I'm skeptical, but others here think he'll somehow net a first. The only way I see that happening is by us taking back a longer contract in the deal.

Yeah no way, he might have gotten a 1st earlier this year when he was on fire but he's back to earth now.

I think the best possible case for a Vuc trade is going for an overlooked young player versus a draft pick. Vuc isn't going to get you a high pick, and a 25th-30th pick does nothing for us. Giddey was a good buy low candidate. Huerter & Collins look like good buy low guys in a super short sample size.

Who knows when you can get another Zubac. He's one of the best non-star centers in the league IMO and he was traded for Mike Muscala. The only reason they wanted Muscala was he was 6' 10" and could hit 3s. Vuc also hits 3s.

I actually like a late first as a way to pick up a C prospect (and probably not before that). There are often good late 1sts that yield decent C prospects. I saw my man Wolf from UofM recently mocked at 25. I'd be happy with that.

[Dan Z]

I'm skeptical, but others here think he'll somehow net a first. The only way I see that happening is by us taking back a longer contract in the deal.

Yeah no way, he might have gotten a 1st earlier this year when he was on fire but he's back to earth now.

I think the best possible case for a Vuc trade is going for an overlooked young player versus a draft pick. Vuc isn't going to get you a high pick, and a 25th-30th pick does nothing for us. Giddey was a good buy low candidate. Huerter & Collins look like good buy low guys in a super short sample size.

Who knows when you can get another Zubac. He's one of the best non-star centers in the league IMO and he was traded for Mike Muscala. The only reason they wanted Muscala was he was 6' 10" and could hit 3s. Vuc also hits 3s.

I actually like a late first as a way to pick up a C prospect (and probably not before that). There are often good late 1sts that yield decent C prospects. I saw my man Wolf from UofM recently mocked at 25. I'd be happy with that.

The only way I see a team giving up a first for Vucevic is if the Bulls take on a long term contract.

[Infinity2152]

Most of the posters here want Vuc gone anyway. Period. At the start of the season, if he was traded for expirings, there would have been celebrations. He's a year older. Where we are now, any trade that doesn't bring bad money should be considered a win, imo. Not like we're placing high value on him, shouldn't expect other teams to do so.

I know everybody wants him gone now, but I'd rather get expirings and nothing than taking any contracts past one year and a late first. That's $20 mill expiring next year. A second or two would suit just fine. Don't even want a young player, unless he looks like he has B+, A potential. We have a ton of mid-good young players, give me the cap space.

[Dan Z]

Most of the posters here want Vuc gone anyway. Period. At the start of the season, if he was traded for expirings, there would have been celebrations. He's a year older. Where we are now, any trade that doesn't bring bad money should be considered a win, imo. Not like we're placing high value on him, shouldn't expect other teams to do so.

I know everybody wants him gone now, but I'd rather get expirings and nothing than taking any contracts past one year and a late first. That's $20 mill expiring next year. A second or two would suit just fine.

There was a rumor that the Hawks offered Capela for him. I can see why AK said no (if true), but maybe Atlanta would add a 2nd or a prospect(Bufkin? Other?)? If so Id do it, but its probably too late now.

[Infinity2152]

Most of the posters here want Vuc gone anyway. Period. At the start of the season, if he was traded for expirings, there would have been celebrations. He's a year older. Where we are now, any trade that doesn't bring bad money should be considered a win, imo. Not like we're placing high value on him, shouldn't expect other teams to do so.

I know everybody wants him gone now, but I'd rather get expirings and nothing than taking any contracts past one year and a late first. That's $20 mill expiring next year. A second or two would suit just fine.

There was a rumor that the Hawks offered Capela for him. I can see why AK said no (if true), but maybe Atlanta would add a 2nd or a prospect(Bufkin? Other?)? If so Id do it, but its probably too late now.

Yeah, this trade season was kind of crazy. Seemed like 6 teams were waiting for dominos to fall before they could make a move. How many teams were looking at potential major trades? Offhand, Bulls, Lakers, Suns, Pelicans, Jazz, Raptors, Warriors, Pistons, Spurs, Kings, Hawks, Nuggets.

Wonder what percentage of hardcore fans believe their own GM is the worst or near the worst? Probably a lot, lol. Philly's firing coaches one after another, and there's a strong movement to fire Morey. Fired the GM that got them the #3 pick back to back, then the #1 pick back to back. Between 2014 and 2020, when Morey was hired, Philly drafted Joel Embid, Ben Simmons, Jerami Grant, Jahlil Okafor, Richaun Holmes, Markelle Fultz, Mikal Bridges (traded to Suns), Isaiah Joe, Landrey Shamet, and Tyrese Maxey. Imagine getting fired after adding that much talent to a team. And the best player of the lot was drafted with a number 3 pick, not the number 1.