Cleveland/Minnesota Next Year

[bgrep14]

Cleveland: Garland, Bates, and Travers

Minnesota: Reid (S&T), Mcdaniels, and Shannon

Cavs get bigger and add more depth at 3/4 and 4/5

Minnesota gets a young all star PG to play with Edwards that is a similar age.

[Godaddycurse]

Cleveland: Garland, Bates, and Travers

Minnesota: Reid (S&T), Mcdaniels, and Shannon

Cavs get bigger and add more depth at 3/4 and 4/5

Minnesota gets a young all star PG to play with Edwards that is a similar age.

pretty sure cleveland cant stay under 1st apron next year

[Astaluego]

I think Wolves should send Dillingham instead of Shanon... I wouldn't do it for the Cavs anyway, Garland is really good, if the Garland/Donovan duo looks very vulnerable in the Playoffs I'll call Orlando first and offer them Garland/Okoro for Suggs/WCJ

[wolves_89]

I think the Wolves would be much better off if they keep Reid/McDaniels/Shannon and continue to develop Dillingham at PG.

[toooskies]

Cleveland: Garland, Bates, and Travers

Minnesota: Reid (S&T), Mcdaniels, and Shannon

Cavs get bigger and add more depth at 3/4 and 4/5

Minnesota gets a young all star PG to play with Edwards that is a similar age.

pretty sure cleveland cant stay under 1st apron next year

It would take another move to dump Hunter and/or Allen on Brooklyn for no returning salary, as the least impactful way of trying to do it. In which case you're not adding more depth at the 3/4 and 4/5. And that also means not re-signing Ty Jerome, meaning Mitchell is the only PG on the roster. Creating a hole in order to plug it while opening another massive hole.

I'm also going to need, like, a paragraph describing the scenario where Darius Garland would be traded for parts this offseason. "get bigger and add more depth" ain't it.

[jscott]

I don’t see the Wolves doing this. I’d rather have those 3 than Garland.

[shrink]

I agree with the other wolves fans. It’s a fair request, the age is right, the need is there .. but I think MIN says no.

Finding players that want to be in Minnesota has been impossible for most of this franchise’s history. Naz and Jaden are Ant’s two best friends on the team, and they both have plenty of unseen potential, based on their initial roles. The wolves’ core going forward is Ant, Naz and Jaden. I think they stay the course, and have DiVincenzo partner with Ant in the back court.

[mcfly1204]

Yuck, dude. Why would Cleveland be looking to cash in a dollar for change?

[Mr Loggins]

yeah, no reason for Cleveland to trade garland for a bunch of lesser pieces.

[jbk1234]

Yuck, dude. Why would Cleveland be looking to cash in a dollar for change?

Because the O.P. doesn't like Garland and never has. That's it. That's the entire explanation.

[Scoot McGroot]

Cleveland: Garland, Bates, and Travers

Minnesota: Reid (S&T), Mcdaniels, and Shannon

Cavs get bigger and add more depth at 3/4 and 4/5

Minnesota gets a young all star PG to play with Edwards that is a similar age.

Travers and Bates are expiring, and two way players. They hold essentially zero value, and would require multiple agreements on sign and trades. Meaning Minnesota would be hard capped at the first apron. As Cleveland would be here, too, by receiving Naz in a sign and trade. And with McDaniels and Shannon involved, Naz couldn’t even sign a vet minimum and make this deal work legally.


You’ve got a bunch of illegalities here and no real easy way to fix it. Also, stop trading two ways. We’ve only seen one in recent memory, and it was a throw in to Brooklyn in the Schroder deal to GSW because they desperately needed a PG to play immediately.

[winforlose]

McDaniels is playing too well to move. He is developing into a 20/10 SF who also happens to be all NBA defense caliber. Oh, and his contract is sub 30 for the next 2 years. By the offseason if he stays healthy and maintains his transformation, you will realize how easy a no this is for Minnesota.

[life_saver]

Yuck, dude. Why would Cleveland be looking to cash in a dollar for change?

Think you are underrating return Wolves are sending here

[MossbergSwerve]

McDaniels is playing too well to move. He is developing into a 20/10 SF who also happens to be all NBA defense caliber. Oh, and his contract is sub 30 for the next 2 years. By the offseason if he stays healthy and maintains his transformation, you will realize how easy a no this is for Minnesota.

Playing too well to move for one of the best PGs in the NBA? ok lol

[mcfly1204]

Yuck, dude. Why would Cleveland be looking to cash in a dollar for change?

Think you are underrating return Wolves are sending here

You're welcome to, but that does not change the fact that Cleveland would be sending out the best player in the deal for lesser pieces. That's just not a move a contender makes unless Garland demands a trade.

[winforlose]

McDaniels is playing too well to move. He is developing into a 20/10 SF who also happens to be all NBA defense caliber. Oh, and his contract is sub 30 for the next 2 years. By the offseason if he stays healthy and maintains his transformation, you will realize how easy a no this is for Minnesota.

Playing too well to move for one of the best PGs in the NBA? ok lol

All defensive players don’t grow on trees. The ones who get you 20 points on efficient shooting for sub 30 million are unicorns.

[shrink]

Playing too well to move for one of the best PGs in the NBA? ok lol

Where would you rank Garland among the best PGs in the league?

SGA, Luka?, Brunson, Haliburton, Cade Cunningham, Steph, Dame, Maxey, Fox, LaMelo, Herro, Jamal Murray, Trae Young, Ja

There are a lot of “Best PGs in the NBA”

[Scoot McGroot]

McDaniels is playing too well to move. He is developing into a 20/10 SF who also happens to be all NBA defense caliber. Oh, and his contract is sub 30 for the next 2 years. By the offseason if he stays healthy and maintains his transformation, you will realize how easy a no this is for Minnesota.

Playing too well to move for one of the best PGs in the NBA? ok lol

All defensive players don’t grow on trees. The ones who get you 20 points on efficient shooting for sub 30 million are unicorns.

To be fair, he’ll only get you 20 occasionally, not every night. Thats a big difference. If he got you 20 every night while still being an All defensive player, he’d be one of the best players in the nba. Like, he’d be above Ant.

[winforlose]

Playing too well to move for one of the best PGs in the NBA? ok lol

All defensive players don’t grow on trees. The ones who get you 20 points on efficient shooting for sub 30 million are unicorns.

To be fair, he’ll only get you 20 occasionally, not every night. Thats a big difference. If he got you 29 every night while still being a. All defensive player, he’d be one of the best players in the nba. Like, he’d be above Ant.

Not saying he will be a 29, but 20 is looking more and more sustainable. His 3 point shooting is bad to awful, but his 2 point shooting is much better. He also is corner crashing as well putting back some of his own misses. A 7’0 or 6’11 SF who can drop 20 on efficient shooting and play all NBA defense is an all star. Look at his stats since January first.

[shrink]

All defensive players don’t grow on trees. The ones who get you 20 points on efficient shooting for sub 30 million are unicorns.

To be fair, he’ll only get you 20 occasionally, not every night. Thats a big difference. If he got you 29 every night while still being a. All defensive player, he’d be one of the best players in the nba. Like, he’d be above Ant.

Yes, and to be fair, he gets those big nights while other teams’ defenses are scheming to stop Ant.

That said, he’s been terrific lately in an expanded offensive role lately. In his last ten games, he’s averaging

FG% 507, 8.1 RB, 3.2 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.7 BPG, 20.0 PPG. I don’t know if he’ll be All Defense again, but he’s up there.

It is interesting to see McDaniels and Garland in the same trade, because Garland is great, but like I was implying in my last post, he’s no unicorn.