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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Post#1161 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Mar 4, 2025 11:59 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is the norm for Heat fans, we’re too good for every star

Not at all, just speaking plainly. And I'd argue the inverse, you're willing to go for a lesser option because you feel the clock ticking on Bam's prime.

I really like Bam, I think he's special offensively, but a bit overrated offensively due to era. I think if he entered the league 20 years ago, he's an 18/9 guy with really good defense, maybe 3-4 assists a game as well, and just like in this era you wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd option on a true contender. And the 25 a game thing is never going to happen, but I still think he's a defensive cornerstone that can be a pillar of a championship squad. Just don't think desperately throwing assets at KD is the answer as it effectively puts us in the same situation we willingly opted not to be in with Jimmy, and I don't think 37-38 year old KD is going to be that much better than Jimmy when you factor in defense and everything else.

Also KD is not the panacea some seem to think he is, outside of joining a 73 win squad he has failed to have great postseason success, and had plenty of injury problems (averaged 42 games played a season last 5 years not including this one). He's got pretty numbers and a smooth game, but if this team was serious about sacrificing the future for a 2 year window with a rapidly aging vet and they gave up Jimmy to just try again with KD, THAT would be the point I'm done with the front office. I may not always agree with the moves, but be consistent with what you're doing.
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Post#1162 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:16 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Maybe I'm being too picky but I feel like going for KD is settling for the single mom with 3 kids from 3 different baby daddy's who just wants to lock up a provider, and yeah she still looks decent for her late 30's with the money she spent on surgery but you know she's nothing like what she was, and you give up the chance for anything better now and in the near future, with no loyalty from her beyond what's in your bank account.


So what are the Heat in this example?

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Post#1163 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:26 am

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Maybe I'm being too picky but I feel like going for KD is settling for the single mom with 3 kids from 3 different baby daddy's who just wants to lock up a provider, and yeah she still looks decent for her late 30's with the money she spent on surgery but you know she's nothing like what she was, and you give up the chance for anything better now and in the near future, with no loyalty from her beyond what's in your bank account.


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something bad obviously, this franchise has never earned anything and owes all its success to Wade/LeBron
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Post#1164 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:42 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is the norm for Heat fans, we’re too good for every star

Not at all, just speaking plainly. And I'd argue the inverse, you're willing to go for a lesser option because you feel the clock ticking on Bam's prime.

I really like Bam, I think he's special offensively, but a bit overrated offensively due to era. I think if he entered the league 20 years ago, he's an 18/9 guy with really good defense, maybe 3-4 assists a game as well, and just like in this era you wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd option on a true contender. And the 25 a game thing is never going to happen, but I still think he's a defensive cornerstone that can be a pillar of a championship squad. Just don't think desperately throwing assets at KD is the answer as it effectively puts us in the same situation we willingly opted not to be in with Jimmy, and I don't think 37-38 year old KD is going to be that much better than Jimmy when you factor in defense and everything else.

Also KD is not the panacea some seem to think he is, outside of joining a 73 win squad he has failed to have great postseason success, and had plenty of injury problems (averaged 42 games played a season last 5 years not including this one). He's got pretty numbers and a smooth game, but if this team was serious about sacrificing the future for a 2 year window with a rapidly aging vet and they gave up Jimmy to just try again with KD, THAT would be the point I'm done with the front office. I may not always agree with the moves, but be consistent with what you're doing.


i don’t see us sacrificing our young & picks for grandpa KD. The only way we’d take him
Is on the cheap. Much rather us go all in on a younger star for a wider window of contending. KD doesn’t guarantee anything.
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Post#1165 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:11 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is the norm for Heat fans, we’re too good for every star

Not at all, just speaking plainly. And I'd argue the inverse, you're willing to go for a lesser option because you feel the clock ticking on Bam's prime.

I really like Bam, I think he's special offensively, but a bit overrated offensively due to era. I think if he entered the league 20 years ago, he's an 18/9 guy with really good defense, maybe 3-4 assists a game as well, and just like in this era you wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd option on a true contender. And the 25 a game thing is never going to happen, but I still think he's a defensive cornerstone that can be a pillar of a championship squad. Just don't think desperately throwing assets at KD is the answer as it effectively puts us in the same situation we willingly opted not to be in with Jimmy, and I don't think 37-38 year old KD is going to be that much better than Jimmy when you factor in defense and everything else.

Also KD is not the panacea some seem to think he is, outside of joining a 73 win squad he has failed to have great postseason success, and had plenty of injury problems (averaged 42 games played a season last 5 years not including this one). He's got pretty numbers and a smooth game, but if this team was serious about sacrificing the future for a 2 year window with a rapidly aging vet and they gave up Jimmy to just try again with KD, THAT would be the point I'm done with the front office. I may not always agree with the moves, but be consistent with what you're doing.

Damn you make a lot of sense here. I agree that we’ll most likely not get involved with KD unless it’s at a bargain price. The team will also be very conscience with the tax too. Hence why Butler is a goner and not getting 60 million for the next few years
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Post#1167 » by TroubleS0me » Wed Mar 5, 2025 2:29 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Maybe I'm being too picky but I feel like going for KD is settling for the single mom with 3 kids from 3 different baby daddy's who just wants to lock up a provider, and yeah she still looks decent for her late 30's with the money she spent on surgery but you know she's nothing like what she was, and you give up the chance for anything better now and in the near future, with no loyalty from her beyond what's in your bank account.


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Post#1168 » by TroubleS0me » Wed Mar 5, 2025 2:29 am

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Post#1170 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:15 am

Trade for Trae Young at a good price or keep flexibility open for 2026. Save the assets for a timeline player that coincides with what we have here. Coughing up our limited assets for an aged KD making 60 plus mil a year into his twilight years is not it. Same as it was with Butler
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Post#1171 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:16 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Maybe I'm being too picky but I feel like going for KD is settling for the single mom with 3 kids from 3 different baby daddy's who just wants to lock up a provider, and yeah she still looks decent for her late 30's with the money she spent on surgery but you know she's nothing like what she was, and you give up the chance for anything better now and in the near future, with no loyalty from her beyond what's in your bank account.


Lmao @KD the single mum w/ 3kids. it’s as close as you can get :lol:

Then some heat fans are desperate men who wanna shop lift the pootie. Heat org the classy type looking for a more appropriate suitor.
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Post#1172 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:30 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is the norm for Heat fans, we’re too good for every star

Not at all, just speaking plainly. And I'd argue the inverse, you're willing to go for a lesser option because you feel the clock ticking on Bam's prime.

I really like Bam, I think he's special offensively, but a bit overrated offensively due to era. I think if he entered the league 20 years ago, he's an 18/9 guy with really good defense, maybe 3-4 assists a game as well, and just like in this era you wouldn't want him as more than a 3rd option on a true contender. And the 25 a game thing is never going to happen, but I still think he's a defensive cornerstone that can be a pillar of a championship squad. Just don't think desperately throwing assets at KD is the answer as it effectively puts us in the same situation we willingly opted not to be in with Jimmy, and I don't think 37-38 year old KD is going to be that much better than Jimmy when you factor in defense and everything else.

Also KD is not the panacea some seem to think he is, outside of joining a 73 win squad he has failed to have great postseason success, and had plenty of injury problems (averaged 42 games played a season last 5 years not including this one). He's got pretty numbers and a smooth game, but if this team was serious about sacrificing the future for a 2 year window with a rapidly aging vet and they gave up Jimmy to just try again with KD, THAT would be the point I'm done with the front office. I may not always agree with the moves, but be consistent with what you're doing.


Y’all gotta stop pretending I’m a Bam only fan, I dispute the nonsense when I see it as he is my favorite player, our best player and cornerstone, who is on my favorite team. I would bomb someone’s neighborhood over Wade though…….

Regardless of it being Bam, yes I do believe when you have a top 20 or so player entering his prime you should be trying to maximize that window as much as possible, especially when they’ve showed you several times already they can anchor deep playoff runs with elite defense and also take over games offensively as well. I don’t view KD as the final piece, I don’t view Trae as the final piece, etc. I view them as the bridge to the final piece, we land either my first though is “ok what’s next, what’s the move that will put us over the top”, “who wants to come play with Bam and KD in Miami under Spo and how do we make it happen”

I agree he will likely never average 25 but it’s more of a schematics things than anything else, Spo doesn’t want him averaging 25 he wants him anchoring elite defenses, rebounding, setting screens and playmaking to get guys open and getting in where he fits in scoring wise. It’s why lesser players are more involved offensively than he is, there is no reason Wiggins should be more involved offensively for instance but he is.
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Post#1173 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:32 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Trade for Trae Young at a good price or keep flexibility open for 2026. Save the assets for a timeline player that coincides with what we have here. Coughing up our limited assets for an aged KD making 60 plus mil a year into his twilight years is not it. Same as it was with Butler


Trae & a back up C wld be ok
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Post#1174 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:33 am

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“Well it’s March I guess it’s time to make the way too late push for Bam to win DPOY”

Best defender in the world again by the way.
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Post#1175 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:36 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:https://hoopshype.com/lists/2026-nba-free-agent-rankings-the-best-players-available-next-year/

Paolo Banchero agent is Mike Miller :o


Haha that would be a wild pickup, great young player but overrated right now. There’s no way someone his size should be a bad defender and score with the terrible efficiency he has. Franz is their best player right now.
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Post#1176 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:57 am

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Post#1177 » by jbsays » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:17 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:https://hoopshype.com/lists/2026-nba-free-agent-rankings-the-best-players-available-next-year/

Paolo Banchero agent is Mike Miller :o


Magic have locked up all their young guys. They're going to lock him up. He's only 22 and could still be playing at Duke this season. Scored 22 in the 4th last night. Magic have been decimated by injuries this season. Wagner, Suggs, and Banchero have all missed significant amount of games.
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Post#1178 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:01 pm

Hawks and Magic both lost yesterday. Almost 2 full games up on both as we lock into the 7th seed play in. Pistons 8 games over .500 so the 6th seed looks to be out of reach
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Post#1179 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:03 pm

We are in a great spot for the playoffs.

We will likely end up as the 7th or 8th seed.

That matches us against Cleveland or Boston.

Its our year boys and girls.
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Post#1180 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:26 pm

DayofMourning wrote:We are in a great spot for the playoffs.

We will likely end up as the 7th or 8th seed.

That matches us against Cleveland or Boston.

Its our year boys and girls.

White Hot playoffs generates good revenue even in a gentleman’s sweep lol. The bright side is tanking in peace in 2026 with our pick free and clear. Tank for Dybansta, Peterson, or Cam Boozer

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