Teams Expected To Operate With More Caution Extending Their Own Players

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Teams Expected To Operate With More Caution Extending Their Own Players 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:30 pm

Because the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement has made it more difficult for teams to carry players who are either injured or no longer productive at a large salary on their roster, teams are expected to operate more cautiously on extensions for their own players than they have over the past few years. Evidence of this approach, at least on some level, came when the Dallas Mavericks traded away Luka Doncic ahead of an offseason in which he could be offered a five-year, $345 million supermax. The Mavericks were reportedly as afraid of Doncic signing the supermax as they were of him rejecting it.


The Philadelphia 76ers have become a cautionary tale as they now have Joel Embiid and Paul George on immovable contracts after they were expecting to be a title contender. Meanwhile, the Phoenix Suns have a roster they cannot repair due to second apron constraints despite a pair of All-NBA talents in Kevin Durant and Devin Booker because their third max contract player, Bradley Beal, isn't the player he was just a few years ago.


"The heart of why the Mavericks didn't pay Luka Doncic, or traded Luka Doncic, was because they didn't want to pay him," said Brian Windhorst on Unsportsmanlike. "At the end of the day, they did not think a $300 million investment was smart in Luka. We could spend hours debating whether that's true or not, but that's what they saw.


"The idea that we are in an era where you just take all your players on your roster and just immediately pay them the max just no matter what... That era, I believe, is coming to a close. I believe we are just at the beginning of seeing teams getting, especially that second max contract, and just instantaneously handing it to them [is over]. And so when we watch guys in the middle of their careers... let's see how these playoffs go and let's see when some of these extensions come up whether those extensions get done. We're in a new era right now where you cannot make a mistake on a big contract, which is the lesson that the Sixers and the Suns to a certain extent are learning right now."


Ja Morant, Trae Young, Darius Garland and Jaren Jackson Jr. are amongst some of the high profile players who will be eligible for contract extensions this offseason.


 

Via Brian Windhorst/ESPN

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Post#2 » by Darthlukey » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:57 pm

I wonder what this means for Kyrie this offseason?
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Post#3 » by beefman » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:21 pm

Darthlukey wrote:I wonder what this means for Kyrie this offseason?


he'll opt in and likely won't get another long contract. the bigger question is, if durant wants a long term deal, will he get it? some teams may not be willing to go longer than 3 years given his age.
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Post#4 » by the_process » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:55 pm

Windy, you're wrong. PG and Embiid are both moveable. Of course you will have to take back bad money. As just one example, Miami would obviously give Rozier, Duncan Robinson, and a protected pick for PG. The Lakers have a bunch of mediocre contracts they would aggregate as well. The Nets have a ton of cap room and want to make a splash. The Hornets are young and cost controlled and could use a vet even if just to sell tickets.

Teams being afraid of the aprons does not mean guys aren't movable.

The Suns being screwed has everything to do with that NTC that the Wizards gave Beal.
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Post#5 » by Vegeta10176 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 11:04 pm

the_process wrote:Windy, you're wrong. PG and Embiid are both moveable. Of course you will have to take back bad money. As just one example, Miami would obviously give Rozier, Duncan Robinson, and a protected pick for PG. The Lakers have a bunch of mediocre contracts they would aggregate as well. The Nets have a ton of cap room and want to make a splash. The Hornets are young and cost controlled and could use a vet even if just to sell tickets.

Teams being afraid of the aprons does not mean guys aren't movable.

The Suns being screwed has everything to do with that NTC that the Wizards gave Beal.


I agree that the beal NTC stuffed suns to the hilt as Butler would of improved them a lot. Paul George is moveable only if you give up draft compensations the lakers and miami are not doing the deal you suggested.. PG may be better next season if this is mostly injury related and it can be fixed.
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Post#6 » by the_process » Wed Mar 5, 2025 11:13 pm

Vegeta10176 wrote:
the_process wrote:Windy, you're wrong. PG and Embiid are both moveable. Of course you will have to take back bad money. As just one example, Miami would obviously give Rozier, Duncan Robinson, and a protected pick for PG. The Lakers have a bunch of mediocre contracts they would aggregate as well. The Nets have a ton of cap room and want to make a splash. The Hornets are young and cost controlled and could use a vet even if just to sell tickets.

Teams being afraid of the aprons does not mean guys aren't movable.

The Suns being screwed has everything to do with that NTC that the Wizards gave Beal.


I agree that the beal NTC stuffed suns to the hilt as Butler would have improved them a lot. Paul George is moveable only if you give up draft compensations the lakers and miami are not doing the deal you suggested.. PG may be better next season if this is mostly injury related and it can be fixed.


It doesn't matter honestly because Morey is stubborn as **** and so is going to run this crap back.

But I fully and completely disagree you couldn't trade George and/or Embiid for bad contracts and protected picks.
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Post#7 » by uconn83 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 12:35 am

the Tobias Harris max contract should never of been a thing
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Post#8 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:04 am

Well that ends that conspiracy theory stuff regarding the Lalers and Luka. The Mavericks are just chicken sh**.
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Re: Teams Expected To Operate With More Caution Extending Their Own Players 

Post#9 » by Pickled Prunes » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:17 am

the_process wrote:
Vegeta10176 wrote:
the_process wrote:Windy, you're wrong. PG and Embiid are both moveable. Of course you will have to take back bad money. As just one example, Miami would obviously give Rozier, Duncan Robinson, and a protected pick for PG. The Lakers have a bunch of mediocre contracts they would aggregate as well. The Nets have a ton of cap room and want to make a splash. The Hornets are young and cost controlled and could use a vet even if just to sell tickets.

Teams being afraid of the aprons does not mean guys aren't movable.

The Suns being screwed has everything to do with that NTC that the Wizards gave Beal.


I agree that the beal NTC stuffed suns to the hilt as Butler would have improved them a lot. Paul George is moveable only if you give up draft compensations the lakers and miami are not doing the deal you suggested.. PG may be better next season if this is mostly injury related and it can be fixed.


It doesn't matter honestly because Morey is stubborn as **** and so is going to run this crap back.

But I fully and completely disagree you couldn't trade George and/or Embiid for bad contracts and protected picks.

PG and Embiid are bad contracts with upside. The only way picks are coming back is if the contracts are just as bad but with less upside. Possible but not probable. Embiid is owed $67m for the 28/29 season. He'll be 35 when he's sitting out the 2029 playoffs. PG is owed $57m for the 27/28 season. He'll be 38 in 2028 and likely watching from the broadcast booth. I think PG will play it out, but Embiid might be eligible for a medical retirement before all is said and done!
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Re: Teams Expected To Operate With More Caution Extending Their Own Players 

Post#10 » by Vegeta10176 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 6:25 am

uconn83 wrote:the Tobias Harris max contract should never of been a thing

That whole trade was insane.. They had enough with embiid Butler and simmons.. At the end of the day they missed the ecf by 1 shot in game 7 at the buzzer by kawhi.. they probably could of won it all and was there best chance but Butler was the guy to keep not harris what a joke..
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Re: Teams Expected To Operate With More Caution Extending Their Own Players 

Post#11 » by tien90802 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 9:52 am

Vegeta10176 wrote:
uconn83 wrote:the Tobias Harris max contract should never of been a thing

That whole trade was insane.. They had enough with embiid Butler and simmons.. At the end of the day they missed the ecf by 1 shot in game 7 at the buzzer by kawhi.. they probably could of won it all and was there best chance but Butler was the guy to keep not harris what a joke..


The score was tied at 90-90.

How’d they miss the ECF by one shot?

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