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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#81 » by Dubs 707 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 2:45 pm

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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#82 » by DB23 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:55 pm

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cpower wrote:well rockets and clippers all lost tonight...good for us...Lakers are unstoppable on the other hand

I think we matchup great with the Lakers. Their best lineup doesn't use a center and that suits us fine.

Steph/Vando or DFS
Podz/Reaves
Butler/Luka
Kuminga/Lebron
Draymond/Hachimura

You are asking the impossible from Kuminga. I keep reading all of these posts about how the Warriors will be so much better when Kuminga returns. Kuminga has poor court vision and dreadful decision-making. LeBron and the Lakers would eat him alive.


The main hope is that the chemistry looks light years better with butler, he seems to unlock the others. Maybe he can with kuminga to? Might be a long shot. And against the lakers dray would matchup with lebron you’d think.

Somehow, we mainly need kuminga to become a + defender and complement this offense. Has all the physical tools …. Hopefully the head and feel take a leap
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#83 » by AirP. » Wed Mar 5, 2025 7:03 pm

I didn't see a Warrior's season only thread so I'm tossing this in here since it's somewhat related.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#84 » by Onus » Wed Mar 5, 2025 7:21 pm

AirP. wrote:I didn't see a Warrior's season only thread so I'm tossing this in here since it's somewhat related.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#85 » by HiRez » Wed Mar 5, 2025 7:41 pm

DB23 wrote:Somehow, we mainly need kuminga to become a + defender and complement this offense. Has all the physical tools …. Hopefully the head and feel take a leap

You could argue there already was a leap, Kuminga was playing the best ball of his career prior to the injury. And just generally making faster, more definitive decisions, and playing pretty solid defense without a lot of fouling.

Since Dec. 1 (15 games):

29.8 mpg, 20.4 pts, 6.0 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.7 tov, 1.9 pf, 48.2% FG, 40.1% 3FG, 66.0% FT (6.7 FTA/gm)
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#86 » by AirP. » Wed Mar 5, 2025 10:59 pm

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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#87 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Mar 6, 2025 12:00 am

HiRez wrote:
DB23 wrote:Somehow, we mainly need kuminga to become a + defender and complement this offense. Has all the physical tools …. Hopefully the head and feel take a leap

You could argue there already was a leap, Kuminga was playing the best ball of his career prior to the injury. And just generally making faster, more definitive decisions, and playing pretty solid defense without a lot of fouling.

Since Dec. 1 (15 games):

29.8 mpg, 20.4 pts, 6.0 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.7 tov, 1.9 pf, 48.2% FG, 40.1% 3FG, 66.0% FT (6.7 FTA/gm)

Somehow Kuminga's excellent play on both ends of the court before getting hurt is being overlooked by many Warriors fans.

Not surprising since his excellent play was largely overlooked by Warriors fans as it was happening. There's a persistent pessimism that Warriors fans hold for Kuminga that I find perplexing.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#88 » by Jester_ » Thu Mar 6, 2025 12:47 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
HiRez wrote:
DB23 wrote:Somehow, we mainly need kuminga to become a + defender and complement this offense. Has all the physical tools …. Hopefully the head and feel take a leap

You could argue there already was a leap, Kuminga was playing the best ball of his career prior to the injury. And just generally making faster, more definitive decisions, and playing pretty solid defense without a lot of fouling.

Since Dec. 1 (15 games):

29.8 mpg, 20.4 pts, 6.0 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.7 tov, 1.9 pf, 48.2% FG, 40.1% 3FG, 66.0% FT (6.7 FTA/gm)

Somehow Kuminga's excellent play on both ends of the court before getting hurt is being overlooked by many Warriors fans.

Not surprising since his excellent play was largely overlooked by Warriors fans as it was happening. There's a persistent pessimism that Warriors fans hold for Kuminga that I find perplexing.


his 53% TS among other things might be why
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#89 » by statsman » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:40 am

Jester_ wrote:his 53% TS among other things might be why

Also, his cumulative +/- on the season at the time of the injury was worse than any player on the Warriors not named Dennis Schröder, Kyle Anderson, or TJD.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#90 » by floppymoose » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:47 am

The +- might stay rough for a while even if he improves. I think he will be platooning with Butler some and that will hurt his on/off.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#91 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:51 am

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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#92 » by DB23 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:32 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
HiRez wrote:
DB23 wrote:Somehow, we mainly need kuminga to become a + defender and complement this offense. Has all the physical tools …. Hopefully the head and feel take a leap

You could argue there already was a leap, Kuminga was playing the best ball of his career prior to the injury. And just generally making faster, more definitive decisions, and playing pretty solid defense without a lot of fouling.

Since Dec. 1 (15 games):

29.8 mpg, 20.4 pts, 6.0 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.7 tov, 1.9 pf, 48.2% FG, 40.1% 3FG, 66.0% FT (6.7 FTA/gm)

Somehow Kuminga's excellent play on both ends of the court before getting hurt is being overlooked by many Warriors fans.

Not surprising since his excellent play was largely overlooked by Warriors fans as it was happening. There's a persistent pessimism that Warriors fans hold for Kuminga that I find perplexing.


I hope you’re right but I don’t think I’ve seen a game where he’s really stood out defensively. Unlike even podz and moody on that side of the floor.

He has the physical tools to be versatile but we either need him as a long wigginsesque POA defender on guys like Luka or like dray on the interior/closeouts. Not sure he has the feel to be either but would love to be wrong
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#93 » by Jester_ » Thu Mar 6, 2025 12:10 pm

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this is amazing. I knew it was obviously a big leap but didn't realize it was that big

steph in particular is scoring way more inside than he was pre-Jimmy. this is what happens when you have a real ball handler and threat on the floor outside of just him.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#94 » by Onus » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:13 pm

DB23 wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:
HiRez wrote:You could argue there already was a leap, Kuminga was playing the best ball of his career prior to the injury. And just generally making faster, more definitive decisions, and playing pretty solid defense without a lot of fouling.

Since Dec. 1 (15 games):

29.8 mpg, 20.4 pts, 6.0 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.7 tov, 1.9 pf, 48.2% FG, 40.1% 3FG, 66.0% FT (6.7 FTA/gm)

Somehow Kuminga's excellent play on both ends of the court before getting hurt is being overlooked by many Warriors fans.

Not surprising since his excellent play was largely overlooked by Warriors fans as it was happening. There's a persistent pessimism that Warriors fans hold for Kuminga that I find perplexing.


I hope you’re right but I don’t think I’ve seen a game where he’s really stood out defensively. Unlike even podz and moody on that side of the floor.

He has the physical tools to be versatile but we either need him as a long wigginsesque POA defender on guys like Luka or like dray on the interior/closeouts. Not sure he has the feel to be either but would love to be wrong

He had a good defensive game against Kd. I slightly remember another game but I forget against who. He’s had some good possessions as well this year. The issue with jk is consistency. His defense has been better than previous years. If he can have game plan discipline and not get lost on rotations, this is probably the biggest thing as right now everyone is able to fly around rotating to the next man, then he’ll be fine.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#95 » by cpower » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:40 pm

Twolves have a crazy easy schedule.....we need to be careful
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#96 » by statsman » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:25 pm

cpower wrote:Twolves have a crazy easy schedule.....we need to be careful

That and hope the Rockets continue their descend in the standings. Maybe it will come down to the Warriors and TWolves for 5th/6th.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#97 » by Onus » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:34 pm

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cpower wrote:Twolves have a crazy easy schedule.....we need to be careful

That and hope the Rockets continue their descend in the standings. Maybe it will come down to the Warriors and TWolves for 5th/6th.

The grizz will also be dropping without JJJ. They've lost their last 4.

Only 4 games from the 4 seed. 3 games from the 5 seed but if we are tied with Hou we have the tie breaker so really only 2 games from the 5 seed. We can also clinch the tie breaker from memphis later in the year so we could realistically only be 3 games from the 4 seed.

The 4 seed is really a possibility.

Seriously may want to update the title to the 4th seed watch
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#98 » by statsman » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:43 pm

I'm good with 6th Seed Watch. Anything that avoids the play-in route. Make the playoffs and hand over a non-lottery pick to the Heat this offseason to complete the Butler trade.
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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#99 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:53 pm

Current playoff picture as of March 6th.

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Re: 6th Seed Watch 

Post#100 » by Onus » Thu Mar 6, 2025 6:05 pm

AirP. wrote:Current playoff picture as of March 6th.

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If things ended today this would be the hardest road possible for us. Den/Lal/Okc
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