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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#401 » by the_process » Wed Mar 5, 2025 2:07 pm

phillynative wrote:Raptors next 5 games are jazz and wizards twice plus the sixers. Should be able to grab the 5th spot soon


Need BKN to stumble into a couple wins. Those f****** are tanking hard.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#402 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 5, 2025 2:47 pm

Lose Embiid for the season and then next game PG is taking a rest day while Maxey injures his back for an unspecified amount of time. Very next game PG injures his groin. Incredible tanking by the Sixers.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#403 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:26 pm

Andre Drummond had 6 rebounds in the first 6 minutes of the game. Finished the game with 7. Sounds like somebody got him to get with the program.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#404 » by the_process » Wed Mar 5, 2025 10:30 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:Andre Drummond had 6 rebounds in the first 6 minutes of the game. Finished the game with 7. Sounds like somebody got him to get with the program.


We should want Drummond to get stats. This way he opts out.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#405 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:24 am

Hard for me to root for a tank, it builds no culture for this team other than just losing. NN is fired, as soon as this season is over as Brett should've been.

We do have to tank this season, but I will not tolerate it next season. Jojo have your damn surgery yesterday, I don't know why that has not happened. PG have your damn surgery too. I know ownership is trying to grind out money, but that might be the stupidest move I've ever seen with our current roster.

Just let them try next season, please.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#406 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:29 am

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FlyingArrow wrote:Andre Drummond had 6 rebounds in the first 6 minutes of the game. Finished the game with 7. Sounds like somebody got him to get with the program.


We should want Drummond to get stats. This way he opts out.


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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#407 » by eyeatoma » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:31 am

ivysixer2000 wrote:Hard for me to root for a tank, it builds no culture for this team other than just losing. NN is fired, as soon as this season is over as Brett should've been.

We do have to tank this season, but I will not tolerate it next season. Jojo have your damn surgery yesterday, I don't know why that has not happened. PG have your damn surgery too. I know ownership is trying to grind out money, but that might be the stupidest move I've ever seen with our current roster.

Just let them try next season, please.


Problem is there likely is no surgery. If you listened to a few pods you'd know that it's pretty hopeless at this point. At some point you have to think about life after basketball. Honestly think its better if he retired medically and the Sixers got their exception.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#408 » by MVP1992 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:43 am

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Post#409 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:58 am

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ivysixer2000 wrote:Hard for me to root for a tank, it builds no culture for this team other than just losing. NN is fired, as soon as this season is over as Brett should've been.

We do have to tank this season, but I will not tolerate it next season. Jojo have your damn surgery yesterday, I don't know why that has not happened. PG have your damn surgery too. I know ownership is trying to grind out money, but that might be the stupidest move I've ever seen with our current roster.

Just let them try next season, please.


Problem is there likely is no surgery. If you listened to a few pods you'd know that it's pretty hopeless at this point. At some point you have to think about life after basketball. Honestly think its better if he retired medically and the Sixers got their exception.


I have not listened to pods. This team hasn't been worth me spending that time on them at this point, plus don't do that stuff anyway.

If he can't play next season, then yeah this franchise is done for years, again. I'm hoping beyond hope, but it sounds like a pipe dream.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#410 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:59 am

MVP1992 wrote:Do NBA teams have insurance to recover salary paid out to medically retired players?

If so, the premiums would be astronomical on Embiid's risk factor.


If you have the money, anything is possible.

You can even trade Anthony Davis for Luka Doncic.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#411 » by MVP1992 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:06 am

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Post#412 » by eyeatoma » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:12 am

MVP1992 wrote:Do NBA teams have insurance to recover salary paid out to medically retired players?

If so, the premiums would be astronomical on Embiid's risk factor.


Yes, if Embiid can't play next year, and a league doctor verifies that he can't then he would get his money, and his contract would be off the books. But it would be another year for that to happen.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#413 » by MVP1992 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 6:11 am

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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#414 » by eyeatoma » Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:08 am

MVP1992 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:Do NBA teams have insurance to recover salary paid out to medically retired players?

If so, the premiums would be astronomical on Embiid's risk factor.


Yes, if Embiid can't play next year, and a league doctor verifies that he can't then he would get his money, and his contract would be off the books. But it would be another year for that to happen.



I understand the cap relief.

I'm talking about Sixers ownership claiming a loss by an insurance company to cover some or all of the loss due to paying Embiid out if he medically retires.

If no such insurance policy exists, they'd obviously claim his pay out as a tax deduction, but still, it's a massive loss to ownership considering they'd be also paying replacement players with that cap space.
Ah yeah not sure about that.

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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#415 » by M2J » Thu Mar 6, 2025 10:26 am

eyeatoma wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:Hard for me to root for a tank, it builds no culture for this team other than just losing. NN is fired, as soon as this season is over as Brett should've been.

We do have to tank this season, but I will not tolerate it next season. Jojo have your damn surgery yesterday, I don't know why that has not happened. PG have your damn surgery too. I know ownership is trying to grind out money, but that might be the stupidest move I've ever seen with our current roster.

Just let them try next season, please.


Problem is there likely is no surgery. If you listened to a few pods you'd know that it's pretty hopeless at this point. At some point you have to think about life after basketball. Honestly think its better if he retired medically and the Sixers got their exception.



1. The pods have no idea what they're talking about. I think Ricky Sanchez was using Wade playing through the pain as an example, but they're situations are completely different. Wade had his meniscus completely removed in college. If cartilage is an issue, and it might just be.... Pain management and getting rid of the swelling is possible.

But I think he's going to try and play


according to Chandler Parsons of Run It Back, he talked with Embiid, and says there might be a way to avoid major surgery. Embiid is thinking about following NBA legend Kobe Bryant’s footsteps, and getting shots in his knees in Germany.


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/philadelphia-76ers/news/joel-embiid-considering-route-nba-legend-took-deal-persistent-knee-injury/65a875d1c3799963723c9b9a
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#416 » by the_process » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:03 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:Hard for me to root for a tank, it builds no culture for this team other than just losing. NN is fired, as soon as this season is over as Brett should've been.

We do have to tank this season, but I will not tolerate it next season. Jojo have your damn surgery yesterday, I don't know why that has not happened. PG have your damn surgery too. I know ownership is trying to grind out money, but that might be the stupidest move I've ever seen with our current roster.

Just let them try next season, please.


Problem is there likely is no surgery. If you listened to a few pods you'd know that it's pretty hopeless at this point. At some point you have to think about life after basketball. Honestly think its better if he retired medically and the Sixers got their exception.



1. The pods have no idea what they're talking about. I think Ricky Sanchez was using Wade playing through the pain as an example, but they're situations are completely different. Wade had his meniscus completely removed in college. If cartilage is an issue, and it might just be.... Pain management and getting rid of the swelling is possible.

But I think he's going to try and play


according to Chandler Parsons of Run It Back, he talked with Embiid, and says there might be a way to avoid major surgery. Embiid is thinking about following NBA legend Kobe Bryant’s footsteps, and getting shots in his knees in Germany.


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/philadelphia-76ers/news/joel-embiid-considering-route-nba-legend-took-deal-persistent-knee-injury/65a875d1c3799963723c9b9a


Spike Eskin has strongly intimated that the information about Jo's injury he has is from the team.

Which lines up with Morey's actions with Jo's extension. If all the docs are telling you no structural damaage it's just weakened and he will require some extra time off and learning to play through pain, then you wouldn't consider that a huge risk. The problem, of course, is Sadboi Joel. He does not have a grind it out personality. If the chips are down? Joel folds. We've seen this time and again. Morey keeps betting on the talent, which just isn't enough.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#417 » by sixers hoops » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:23 pm

MVP1992 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:Do NBA teams have insurance to recover salary paid out to medically retired players?

If so, the premiums would be astronomical on Embiid's risk factor.


Yes, if Embiid can't play next year, and a league doctor verifies that he can't then he would get his money, and his contract would be off the books. But it would be another year for that to happen.


Almost every contract in the NBA is insured, but I imagine it wasn’t easy to get Embiid’s extension insured. My guess is that it is insured, but I’m assuming it wasn’t cheap.
I understand the cap relief.

I'm talking about Sixers ownership claiming a loss by an insurance company to cover some or all of the loss due to paying Embiid out if he medically retires.

If no such insurance policy exists, they'd obviously claim his pay out as a tax deduction, but still, it's a massive loss to ownership considering they'd be also paying replacement players with that cap space.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#418 » by sixers hoops » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:31 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:
Yes, if Embiid can't play next year, and a league doctor verifies that he can't then he would get his money, and his contract would be off the books. But it would be another year for that to happen.


Almost every contract in the NBA is insured, but I imagine it wasn’t easy to get Embiid’s extension insured. My guess is that it is insured, but I’m assuming it wasn’t cheap.
I understand the cap relief.

I'm talking about Sixers ownership claiming a loss by an insurance company to cover some or all of the loss due to paying Embiid out if he medically retires.

If no such insurance policy exists, they'd obviously claim his pay out as a tax deduction, but still, it's a massive loss to ownership considering they'd be also paying replacement players with that cap space.


I just read a note in an article that his 2015 contract was not insured for foot injuries. Considering that, you would think an insurance company would be hard-pressed to insure his knees. However, they prob make so much money off NBA teams that I assumed the Sixers would somehow get his contract insured. Worst case scenario, Harris pays out of pocket, which wouldn’t break him. He should be pretty pissed at Morey though.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#419 » by the_process » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:36 pm

I remember reading something about the insurer(s) for the NBA is/are allowed to drop 5 players every year from contract coverage? Don't know if that's still applicable or any changes have been made to that. However, with the risk... you have to imagine Jo would be one of the 5.

That said, team still has to spend to the floor, which is basically the cap. Also, the team could theoretically have outside insurance on Jo's contract.
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Re: Tank Watch 2025 

Post#420 » by sixers hoops » Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:12 pm

the_process wrote:I remember reading something about the insurer(s) for the NBA is/are allowed to drop 5 players every year from contract coverage? Don't know if that's still applicable or any changes have been made to that. However, with the risk... you have to imagine Jo would be one of the 5.

That said, team still has to spend to the floor, which is basically the cap. Also, the team could theoretically have outside insurance on Jo's contract.

When he signed that extension, he looked injured coming out of the playoffs. We all knew he had a degenerative knee condition. I would be shocked if anyone would insure his contract, outside of it being more of a team wide or league wide policy.

Nevertheless, it’s just a matter of insurance paying it vs Harris paying it.

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