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Son Goku 25 wrote:Am I seeing a shorter MJ in the making??
https://youtu.be/hLPdLMTgSK4?feature=shared
Bigger Victor Oladipo.

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Doesn't he always do this trip with Bobby? Weird.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Pointgod wrote:
I was with you until I saw KD. Hell no! Horrible match for this team plus he’d never come here. If we drafted Tre I would just start him and trade RJ. Tre would be one of our best shooters as soon as he was drafted.
How is KD a horrible match for this team?
The only thing I can think of is because he’s in the later stages of his career, and I’m not sure we’re at the level to acquire a guy like him yet.
Otherwise KD fits into any roster.
I dont see age being an issue. Wade starts his career with Shaq and won the Cup. Rondo and a few did in their early years.
The question is, who fits with Durrant. Personally I dont see Barnes without 3 and without being a switchable defense to play with Durrant who plays on the same position. If you are trading Barnes for Durrant, the starters of the team does not seem to have that big of an age difference.
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Syd-TK3 wrote:Well time to start looking more into the Noa Essengue's of the world
What about Asa Newell?
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niQ wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Well time to start looking more into the Noa Essengue's of the world
What about Asa Newell?
I wish he was an inch or 2 taller, he'd solidify himself in that 6-9 range for sure imo. I like him for us more than I do Noa, Asa can be a 5/4 combo for us with potential space ability

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I'm guessing people were interested in the Maryland vs Michigan game to see Queen vs Wolf. Just by boxscores, they both played well.
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)

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Psubs wrote:I'm guessing people were interested in the Maryland vs Michigan game to see Queen vs Wolf. Just by boxscores, they both played well.
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)
Condon will rise late and go lottery. I have him #4 currently.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:Psubs wrote:I'm guessing people were interested in the Maryland vs Michigan game to see Queen vs Wolf. Just by boxscores, they both played well.
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)
Condon will rise late and go lottery. I have him #4 currently.
The only thing I worry about with him is the low FG%. A 7 footer being at 50% isn’t great
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:Psubs wrote:I'm guessing people were interested in the Maryland vs Michigan game to see Queen vs Wolf. Just by boxscores, they both played well.
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)
Condon will rise late and go lottery. I have him #4 currently.
The only thing I worry about with him is the low FG%. A 7 footer being at 50% isn’t great
His 2pt% is 55 and Sorber's is 59.6% playing against worse competition.
He's also newish to the sport and is a natural athlete so he will improve.
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Condon looked good tonight.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:
Condon will rise late and go lottery. I have him #4 currently.
The only thing I worry about with him is the low FG%. A 7 footer being at 50% isn’t great
His 2pt% is 55 and Sorber's is 59.6% playing against worse competition.
He's also newish to the sport and is a natural athlete so he will improve.
Not saying he’s a bad player, just that the number needs to come up. I think it will, but right now it’s not great.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Not saying he’s a bad player, just that the number needs to come up. I think it will, but right now it’s not great.
Depends on his shot diet. Getting easy dunks and lay-ups and whatnot to boost your percentages isn't that great of an indicator for scoring. A lot depends on both your teammates and offensive scheme getting you open looks, and how good the opposing defense is.
Mogbo averaged 14.2 PPG with 64 in 2P%, but his shot diet was mainly dunks and lay-ups. Same thing with Maluach now. It's not dependable for high volume scoring or self-shot creation.
Filipowski only shot 55.9 2P% in college (50.9% in his freshman year), but is shooting 60.7 TS% in the NBA now compared to Mogbo's 51.8 TS% on lower volume.
Another example would be Siakam: 54.9 2P% in a weak conference. Offensive versatility and a somewhat reliable bag is probably more important than 2P%. Siakam was already showing post moves, spin moves and mid-range jumpers in college.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:Psubs wrote:I'm guessing people were interested in the Maryland vs Michigan game to see Queen vs Wolf. Just by boxscores, they both played well.
I was able to watch Florida vs Alabama on TV. Firstly Philon played great and was a +12 while everyone else was a - or just above zero and the game was close. I guess Philon could be good but he had zero FT attempts.
Alex Condon is so fit, in the 2nd half he's sprinting down the court jamming lobs. His 2 blocks were both stuffing Nelson on alleyoop attempts. Oh ya, new career high tonight!
In only 30 mins, 27 pts (9 /16, 7/9 FT and 2/4 from deep), 10 rebs, 2 blks and 1 assist (I swear the scorer missed an assist, 1 to).
Florida runs a play where Condon whips a bounce pass to a guard cutting baseline and the guard passes to the C down low. It's like a hockey assist. Also one guard missed a 5 foot floater baseline to rob another assist.
Really need another 1st pick to draft him.
Also Rasheer Fleming with a slow 1st half but found the 3pt stroke in the 2nd half.
19 pts (7/11, 2/2 FT, 3/6 from deep), 7 rebs, 4 stls, 1 blk and 1 ast (1 to)
Condon will rise late and go lottery. I have him #4 currently.
Wowza like Clingan draft position.

Condon didn't start playing serious organized basketball until age 16.

I think he could be like a quicker more agile Poeltl that can hit 3's guard the PnR like a SF. Really I think he could match up against, the Wemby's and Chets as well as well can be.
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5. Harper
6. Bailey
I would take him as the next big after Cooper. OMG, if Duke and Florida meet in the tourney... Condon vs Cooper and Chinyelu vs Maluach.


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JT Toppin with 30 and 14 tonight.
But he can't shoot? 8-9 from the line.
But he can't shoot from distance? 2-2 from three (6-15 over his last 4).
The kid is getting better each game. I am curious where he ends up.
But he can't shoot? 8-9 from the line.
But he can't shoot from distance? 2-2 from three (6-15 over his last 4).
The kid is getting better each game. I am curious where he ends up.
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RoteSchroder wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Not saying he’s a bad player, just that the number needs to come up. I think it will, but right now it’s not great.
Depends on his shot diet. Getting easy dunks and lay-ups and whatnot to boost your percentages isn't that great of an indicator for scoring. A lot depends on both your teammates and offensive scheme getting you open looks, and how good the opposing defense is.
Mogbo averaged 14.2 PPG with 64 in 2P%, but his shot diet was mainly dunks and lay-ups. Same thing with Maluach now. It's not dependable for high volume scoring or self-shot creation.
Filipowski only shot 55.9 2P% in college (50.9% in his freshman year), but is shooting 60.7 TS% in the NBA now compared to Mogbo's 51.8 TS% on lower volume.
There was one move where he tried a left handed hard hook shot and it was so terribly clean off the backboard it went right back to him for the offensive rebound and he put it in.

He outruns everyone in the 4th quarter and makes the right reads on offense and defense. So he's a little raw but his BPM is almost 12. He doesn't try many long 2's. He might be 6'11 Pascal Siakam that can already shoot 3's with an A/T over 2.

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I know figuring out the 5-10 range in the lotto is tough but Jeremiah Fears is a guy I would consider.
I see star potential the way he can handle the ball and get to the line and make good plays. 31 in a high pressure game today against ranked Missouri. I see some Kyrie in him.
I see star potential the way he can handle the ball and get to the line and make good plays. 31 in a high pressure game today against ranked Missouri. I see some Kyrie in him.
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dohboy_24 wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:Should probably start looking at prospects in the 8-15 range instead of the top guys.
Just prepare yourselves.
Umm... the math ain't mathing...
First of all, the draft lottery is the first 14 picks. Pick #15 is awarded to the worst team that still makes the playoffs.
Depending on where we end up in the draft lottery standings, the ping-pong balls could put us in the 7-8-9 range of the draft after the lottery, but it's going to be nearly impossible for us to end up with a pick in the #10 to #14 range.
To end the season at #15 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to finish with a better record than Chicago (+4 wins ahead of us), Atlanta (+8 wins ahead of us), and Orlando (+9 wins ahead of us) to secure the #8 spot in the Eastern conference and avoid the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #15 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #15 pick as a result.
To end the season at #14 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to defy the lottery system entirely since the LA Clippers are currently in the 14th spot with a 32-29 record and winning more games than them would likely put us ahead of both Orlando and Miami in the standings, securing the #7 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and avoiding the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #14 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #14 pick as a result.
To end the season at #13 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to defy the lottery system entirely since Dallas is currently in the 13th spot with a 32-30 record and winning more games than them would likely put us ahead of Orlando and/or Miami in the standings, securing either the #7 or #8 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and avoiding the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #13 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #13 or #14 pick as a result.
To end the season at #12 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to defy the lottery system entirely since Phoenix is currently in the 12th spot with a 29-33 record and winning more games than them would likely put us ahead of Orlando and/or Miami in the standings, securing either the #7 or #8 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and avoiding the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #12 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #12, #13, or #14 pick as a result.
To end the season at #11 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to defy the lottery system entirely since Atlanta/Portland are currently tied for the 11th spot with a 28-34 record and winning more games than them would likely put us ahead of Orlando in the standings, securing the #8 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and avoiding the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #11 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #11, #12, #13, or #14 pick as a result.
To end the season at #10 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to defy the lottery system entirely since Atlanta/Portland are currently tied for the 10th spot with a 28-34 record and winning more games than them would likely put us ahead of Orlando in the standings, securing the #8 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and avoiding the draft lottery altogether.
Considering the above, there is a 0% chance we end the season at #10 in the draft lottery standings and end up with the #10, #11, #12, #13, or #14 pick as a result.
To end the season at #9 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to finish with a better record than San Antonio (+6 wins ahead of us) but doing so would also put us ahead of Chicago (+4 wins ahead of us) in the standings, securing the #10 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and an invite to the play-in tournament.
Should we end the season at #9 in the draft lottery standings, there is a 29% chance we could end up with the #10, #11, #12, or #13 pick and a 0% chance we could end up with the #14 pick.
To end the season at #8 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to finish with a better record than Chicago (+4 wins ahead of us) but doing so would secure the #10 spot in the Eastern conference in the process and an invite to the play-in tournament.
Should we end the season at #8 in the draft lottery standings, there is a 7% chance we could end up with the #10, #11, or #12 pick and a 0% chance we could end up with the #13 or #14 pick.
To end the season at #7 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to end the season with a better record than Brooklyn/Philadelphia (+1 wins ahead of us) but not Chicago (+4 wins ahead of us).
Should we end the season at #7 in the draft lottery standings, there is a 1.3% chance we could end up with the #10 or #11 pick and a 0% chance we could end up with the #12, #13, or #14 pick.
To end the season at #6 in the draft lottery standings, the Raptors would have to end the season with a better record than Brooklyn/Philadelphia (+1 wins ahead of us) but not Chicago (+4 wins ahead of us).
Should we end the season at #6 in the draft lottery standings, there is a 0.2% chance we could end up with the #10 pick and a 0% chance we could end up with the #11, #12, #13, or #14 pick.
You are right but don't over complicate it.
We are most likely picking 8-9 or 15-16. Anything better than 8 is thanks to chicago doing something stupid or the lotto gods giving us a top 4.
Highest probability is 8th pick.
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