2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

[MettaWorldPanda]

It’s just a matter of time before someone comes available where Presti jumps in and just lets his dick swing and easily trumps everyone else’s offer.

If they don’t win this year it could get really interesting

It will also ruin the trade market again. Hard to compete with a 5-6 pick deal.

[jbsays]

With Herro, Wiggins, and even Jacquez out and the way the roster is constructed I'm not sure how Rozier could not play. Before the deadline I was saying Rozier is playing because Heat have no other ball handler other than Herro. With fully healthy roster I'd try to keep one of Herro or Mitchell on the court and give Laarson minutes. When Herro is on the bench play Mitchell with Laarson or Burks.

It's not looking like the Heat will catch Detroit. So the pick going to OKC is going to ride on the play in.

[jbsays]

And on OKC.... they're built perfectly, but they're also going to have to start paying guys. Jalen Williams is going to get paid and I'd imagine they want to keep him. He's got player option for 25-26 option, but someone is going to throw the max at him so OKC will have to pay up to keep him.

Holgrem will also be off his rookie deal at the same time. I'd imagine they'd want to keep him even with his injury history.

Caruso will be making $20 mil at 33 that season. Cap is rising, but I still think they will have a decision to make there whether they want to keep paying him. They've got 2-3 other guys playing the same position already who will be younger or cheaper.

So with SGA, J Williams, Holgrem, and Hartenstein ($28.5 mil) they've got a lot of money tied up. I think that would make it hard to add another guy making over $30 million without giving one of those guys up.

[batterybro42]

Would you be willing to trade Ware filler and a draft pick for Anthony Davis?

Lol yes in a cocaine heartbeat. That wouldn't be nearly enough to get it done though, unless Nico REALLY wants to get fired.

Kyrie approaching 33 having an ACL he is going to be out 9-12 months, and probably will not be a factor until late in the year for the Mavs next year. On top of that he is on a player option for next season, and I could easily see him opting out to get what will likely be his last big pay day of his career so they may lose him for pretty much nothing. Then you have AD who is also approaching 33 years of age.

Mavs are going to need to reset this thing sooner rather than later. I think Davis is available this summer for a trade.

Kyrie
KD
AD
Trae Young
Lonzo Ball

Are all guys I think will be available this summer for the Heat, and Miami has the assets to get them, it just comes down to if they want to part with them or not

If you are going to push the chips to the middle of the table and go all in on a title run you go get KD or AD, and ask questions later.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s just a matter of time before someone comes available where Presti jumps in and just lets his dick swing and easily trumps everyone else’s offer.

If they don’t win this year it could get really interesting

It will also ruin the trade market again. Hard to compete with a 5-6 pick deal.

They will definitely overpay and have no issue in doing so, gotta hope the rest of the league understands it’s an overpay

[3ammy3uck3ts]

AD is definitely an interesting name, there’s no way Kyrie doesn’t pick up his player option for next season and get $43M or whatever while he’s rehabbing (unless the Mavs just want to extend him big) and Kyrie will be out until late next season which is basically just punting next season away. Does AD want to just waste away in Dallas next season while risking injury? I would doubt it but who knows

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Last night proves everything I argue about on here pretty much in regards to Bam, it’s time for Spo to readjust and take the shackles off Bam on the offensive end, it’s time for first option 18-20 shots a game Bam for every remaining game this season. Without I believe 7 rotation players last night and 3 starters Bam had 34-12-5 on 77TS% while also shooting 3-5 from 3 and almost single handedly won the game against the best team in the league (arguably the best frontcourt defense in the league) on their homecourt and if Terry Rozier wasn’t on the roster it would’ve been a win.

He is the best overall and impactful player on this team (especially when it matters most) and it’s not even close, his offensive game is much more polished than it’s ever been and it’s time to lean in on it and let our star be our star. No more deferring to lesser players, the only player who should have as many shots as him or close to as many is Tyler.

This is not a 1 game sample size reaction either, last year when Jimmy and Herro were both out he averaged like 25-11-4 on high efficiency. When Spo is forced to make Bam the top scoring option Bam comes through.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

The poor roster construction has led to this. Spo has no backup ball handling guard behind Rozier so he feels the need to try and ride it out and hope he figures it out but much to the extreme detriment to the team. If a G league guy comes in and over performs Rozier they can’t even use him in the playoffs due to no roster spots and the deadline coming soon to sign and be playoff eligible. Spo though needs to get over it and figure this out as it seems there has been discussions about sitting Rozier which happened last week only to feel forced putting him back in when guys go down. I wonder if Micky also has a mandate to make it work due to the contract. Like not allowing Butler to sit while the trade talks were going on and him trying to implode the team. Just seems to be some major dysfunction going on which is very unHeat like.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Could also very well be an ego thing with Spo. People are telling him to bench Terry and when he sees a few glimpses like the Knicks and Wiz game it gives him the ammo to do the complete opposite of the noise. The video of the game should be very telling that he continues to shoot this team in the foot

[al bondiga]

And on OKC.... they're built perfectly, but they're also going to have to start paying guys. Jalen Williams is going to get paid and I'd imagine they want to keep him. He's got player option for 25-26 option, but someone is going to throw the max at him so OKC will have to pay up to keep him.

Holgrem will also be off his rookie deal at the same time. I'd imagine they'd want to keep him even with his injury history.

Caruso will be making $20 mil at 33 that season. Cap is rising, but I still think they will have a decision to make there whether they want to keep paying him. They've got 2-3 other guys playing the same position already who will be younger or cheaper.

So with SGA, J Williams, Holgrem, and Hartenstein ($28.5 mil) they've got a lot of money tied up. I think that would make it hard to add another guy making over $30 million without giving one of those guys up.

I say this sga won't win a title in Oklahoma.
He needs to get to a bigger market.
I think. He is a harden type of player

[al bondiga]

herro- Rozier- Jovic for sga? I love hero, but sga here

[VaDe255]

Last night proves everything I argue about on here pretty much in regards to Bam, it’s time for Spo to readjust and take the shackles off Bam on the offensive end, it’s time for first option 18-20 shots a game Bam for every remaining game this season. Without I believe 7 rotation players last night and 3 starters Bam had 34-12-5 on 77TS% while also shooting 3-5 from 3 and almost single handedly won the game against the best team in the league (arguably the best frontcourt defense in the league) on their homecourt and if Terry Rozier wasn’t on the roster it would’ve been a win.

He is the best overall and impactful player on this team (especially when it matters most) and it’s not even close, his offensive game is much more polished than it’s ever been and it’s time to lean in on it and let our star be our star. No more deferring to lesser players, the only player who should have as many shots as him or close to as many is Tyler.

This is not a 1 game sample size reaction either, last year when Jimmy and Herro were both out he averaged like 25-11-4 on high efficiency. When Spo is forced to make Bam the top scoring option Bam comes through.

One good shooting stretch for Bam is not proove of anything.
Looking at his On/Off stats over the last five years, he’s been absolutely atrocious without a quality shot creator on the court. The offensive rating plummets. When paired with Herro, it’s somewhat mid, and of course, Jimmy has always been the main difference maker.



Bam can’t consistently create good quality shots. The way he gets his scoring is usually by someone setting up a mismatch for him — and even then, a lot of the time, he has to settle for a tough jumper. He’s been making them lately, but that’s not how you build a good offense.
His lack of a reliable post game, limited face-up scoring package, and inability to consistently pressure the rim without a setup man all cap his ceiling. You can use him as a connector, but not as the guy you build an offense around.

Is it really that difficult to understand, or why do you keep asking this? You don’t see how quality shot creators draw double teams and pressure the rim to collapse defenses?
The Cavs just defended Bam 1-on-1 and let him take the tough shot. Watch his shots if you don’t believe it; it was super easy to defend, he just made more of them than he should have

[SerialChiller]

Could also very well be an ego thing with Spo. People are telling him to bench Terry and when he sees a few glimpses like the Knicks and Wiz game it gives him the ammo to do the complete opposite of the noise. The video of the game should be very telling that he continues to shoot this team in the foot

True Spo definitely has an ego. He'll wait to do things that everyone knows he should do until it looks like it was his idea or what he deems to be the right time to do it. Finally starting Ware halfway through this year was the latest example of that.

[SerialChiller]

herro- Rozier- Jovic for sga? I love hero, but sga here

It'd take a hell of a lot more than that I'm afraid.

[batterybro42]

AD is definitely an interesting name, there’s no way Kyrie doesn’t pick up his player option for next season and get $43M or whatever while he’s rehabbing (unless the Mavs just want to extend him big) and Kyrie will be out until late next season which is basically just punting next season away. Does AD want to just waste away in Dallas next season while risking injury? I would doubt it but who knows

A team will give Kyrie a max deal if he opts out I can almost promise you

He is a guard and likely has 4-5 more years of elite play left in him. He is one of the most skilled players to have ever played the game he will age well if he can physically be available.

[jbsays]

Wouldn't the problem with AD be he doesn't want to play C and Bam is better at PF than C? I mean Bam and AD (if healthy) would be the best 4-5 in the league, but if AD is not onboard 100%. Plus AD plays less games than Jimmy and, IMO, I don't think it's because of load management.... he just can't stay healthy and those things don't improve when you're 33, 34, and 35.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Last night proves everything I argue about on here pretty much in regards to Bam, it’s time for Spo to readjust and take the shackles off Bam on the offensive end, it’s time for first option 18-20 shots a game Bam for every remaining game this season. Without I believe 7 rotation players last night and 3 starters Bam had 34-12-5 on 77TS% while also shooting 3-5 from 3 and almost single handedly won the game against the best team in the league (arguably the best frontcourt defense in the league) on their homecourt and if Terry Rozier wasn’t on the roster it would’ve been a win.

He is the best overall and impactful player on this team (especially when it matters most) and it’s not even close, his offensive game is much more polished than it’s ever been and it’s time to lean in on it and let our star be our star. No more deferring to lesser players, the only player who should have as many shots as him or close to as many is Tyler.

This is not a 1 game sample size reaction either, last year when Jimmy and Herro were both out he averaged like 25-11-4 on high efficiency. When Spo is forced to make Bam the top scoring option Bam comes through.

One good shooting stretch for Bam is not proove of anything.
Looking at his On/Off stats over the last five years, he’s been absolutely atrocious without a quality shot creator on the court. The offensive rating plummets. When paired with Herro, it’s somewhat mid, and of course, Jimmy has always been the main difference maker.



Bam can’t consistently create good quality shots. The way he gets his scoring is usually by someone setting up a mismatch for him — and even then, a lot of the time, he has to settle for a tough jumper. He’s been making them lately, but that’s not how you build a good offense.
His lack of a reliable post game, limited face-up scoring package, and inability to consistently pressure the rim without a setup man all cap his ceiling. You can use him as a connector, but not as the guy you build an offense around.

Is it really that difficult to understand, or why do you keep asking this? You don’t see how quality shot creators draw double teams and pressure the rim to collapse defenses?
The Cavs just defended Bam 1-on-1 and let him take the tough shot. Watch his shots if you don’t believe it; it was super easy to defend, he just made more of them than he should have

One good shooting stretch doesn’t prove anything? Because apparently 1 bad shooting stretch did lol.

I know what I’m talking about but appreciate your opinion. Every single time he’s cast as the top scoring option he produces at a high level and they collapsed on Bam plenty, they tried to guard 1 on 1 other times because they think Evan Mobley is the best defender in the world, he got torched. Bam is our best and most dynamic player, give him his usage and shot attempts and he will produce, he’s shown it several times.

[batterybro42]

Wouldn't the problem with AD be he doesn't want to play C and Bam is better at PF than C? I mean Bam and AD (if healthy) would be the best 4-5 in the league, but if AD is not onboard 100%. Plus AD plays less games than Jimmy and, IMO, I don't think it's because of load management.... he just can't stay healthy and those things don't improve when you're 33, 34, and 35.

I think both Bam and AD don't want to be the only big on the floor in small ball lineups, at least to my understanding. It's not being the Center its being the only rim protector and rebounder at all times