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Post#61 » by Daver » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:29 pm

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bucksfansince88 wrote:KPJ is top priority this off season Horst

I would say top priority is to find a true SG next to Dame and a replacement for Brook.





Think trent is that true SG next to dame still think he shouldnt of lost his starting spot .....if anything he has definitely earned it back
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Post#62 » by randy84 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:32 pm

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bucksfansince88 wrote:KPJ is top priority this off season Horst

I would say top priority is to find a true SG next to Dame and a replacement for Brook.





Think trent is that true SG next to dame still think he shouldnt of lost his starting spot .....if anything he has definitely earned it back


I would agree that GTJ should be starting but also understand coaches get superstitious about lineups. But I would like to see the Bucks spend money on starters before paying bench guys. The fact that Patty C makes more than some of the starters is GM malpractice.
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Post#63 » by JimmyTheKid » Thu Mar 6, 2025 2:50 pm

-Jragon- wrote:With Brook being our only slow currently and Pat firmly on bench... our lineup is Doc proof.. for now. But yeah, keep being creative in adding more KPJ


Just nervous about what happens when Bobby comes back. As I <probably prematurely> said after game 2, post trade deadline, if this keeps up Bobbys' role should be lead cheerleader upon return. After all the clamoring for athleticism and foot speed, we finally get it and see immediate results. I like our chances to make a real run at this thing.
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Post#64 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:05 pm

Nice to see a comfortable "Bud-era" win against a depleted roster. This weekend should be a nice barometer of the new-look squad. Only thing that is annoying is Doc refusing to go with Giannis-at-5 lineups with Kuzma at the four and one of GTJ or Dairy at the 2.
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Post#65 » by soxperry » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:09 pm

I know kpj mostly got extra minutes in this one due to Trent being out and the blowout, but going forward there is zero reason he should be playing less than 20 minutes per game. 20 should be the bare minimum.
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Post#66 » by skbucks1985 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:16 pm

Last night's win didn't mean anything in the context of what this team's ultimate ceiling is, but last night the Cavs went down to the wire with a Heat team without Herro, Wiggins, Ware, Jaquez and Jovic. Plus, the Bucks have 8 combined losses to Brooklyn, Chicago, Portland and Charlotte. Winning this way isn't a foregone conclusion league-wise, and as MD said in the original post this team has played down to the competition this season and it was good to see them not do that.
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Post#67 » by soxperry » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:19 pm

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-Jragon- wrote:With Brook being our only slow currently and Pat firmly on bench... our lineup is Doc proof.. for now. But yeah, keep being creative in adding more KPJ


Just nervous about what happens when Bobby comes back. As I <probably prematurely> said after game 2, post trade deadline, if this keeps up Bobbys' role should be lead cheerleader upon return. After all the clamoring for athleticism and foot speed, we finally get it and see immediate results. I like our chances to make a real run at this thing.


Bobby is still one of our better players, he just needs to take minutes from the right people. Most notably Prince and probably Sims as much as I like his energy.

If you have:

Dame 36
Giannis 34
Kuzma 33
Brook 30
Bobby 30
Prince 15

That leaves 62 mins to split between Kpj, Green and Trent depending on the matchup.

I would go with 24, 20, and 18 respectively most nights
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Post#68 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:26 pm

Great to finally have a blowout win where we can rest the starters, but you still wanna see Dame's minutes ramped down (36, 36, 35, and 37 the previous 4-games) to keep him fresh for the playoffs. Unleash KPJ.
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Post#69 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:43 pm

soxperry wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:With Brook being our only slow currently and Pat firmly on bench... our lineup is Doc proof.. for now. But yeah, keep being creative in adding more KPJ


Just nervous about what happens when Bobby comes back. As I <probably prematurely> said after game 2, post trade deadline, if this keeps up Bobbys' role should be lead cheerleader upon return. After all the clamoring for athleticism and foot speed, we finally get it and see immediate results. I like our chances to make a real run at this thing.


Bobby is still one of our better players, he just needs to take minutes from the right people. Most notably Prince and probably Sims as much as I like his energy.

If you have:

Dame 36
Giannis 34
Kuzma 33
Brook 30
Bobby 30
Prince 15

That leaves 62 mins to split between Kpj, Green and Trent depending on the matchup.

I would go with 24, 20, and 18 respectively most nights

Bobby wasn't a 30 minute a game guy before we got Kuzma (and Sims), I doubt that is going to increase. I'd assume you'll see Kuzma and Prince's minutes dip, especially with the second unit to account for Bobby coming back into the mix there.
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Post#70 » by SirChurros » Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:59 pm

What is the black thing KPJ is wearing on his nose during games? The secret elixir?
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Post#71 » by soxperry » Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:10 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
soxperry wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Just nervous about what happens when Bobby comes back. As I <probably prematurely> said after game 2, post trade deadline, if this keeps up Bobbys' role should be lead cheerleader upon return. After all the clamoring for athleticism and foot speed, we finally get it and see immediate results. I like our chances to make a real run at this thing.


Bobby is still one of our better players, he just needs to take minutes from the right people. Most notably Prince and probably Sims as much as I like his energy.

If you have:

Dame 36
Giannis 34
Kuzma 33
Brook 30
Bobby 30
Prince 15

That leaves 62 mins to split between Kpj, Green and Trent depending on the matchup.

I would go with 24, 20, and 18 respectively most nights

Bobby wasn't a 30 minute a game guy before we got Kuzma (and Sims), I doubt that is going to increase. I'd assume you'll see Kuzma and Prince's minutes dip, especially with the second unit to account for Bobby coming back into the mix there.


Ahh, you are right. Thats great, then. We have enough minutes going to large players.
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Post#72 » by BigO » Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:14 pm

soxperry wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:With Brook being our only slow currently and Pat firmly on bench... our lineup is Doc proof.. for now. But yeah, keep being creative in adding more KPJ


Just nervous about what happens when Bobby comes back. As I <probably prematurely> said after game 2, post trade deadline, if this keeps up Bobbys' role should be lead cheerleader upon return. After all the clamoring for athleticism and foot speed, we finally get it and see immediate results. I like our chances to make a real run at this thing.


Bobby is still one of our better players, he just needs to take minutes from the right people. Most notably Prince and probably Sims as much as I like his energy.

If you have:

Dame 36
Giannis 34
Kuzma 33
Brook 30
Bobby 30
Prince 15

That leaves 62 mins to split between Kpj, Green and Trent depending on the matchup.

I would go with 24, 20, and 18 respectively most nights


If you're talking about the playoffs, the Giannis/Dame minutes will increase into the 40s, unless the game is not in doubt:

Dame 42
Giannis 42
Kuzma 32
Brook 32
BP 25
Prince 25
Trent 20
Green 10
KPJ 10

This isn't what I think should happen, but a guess on what will happen. Posters are euphoric on KPJ, but let's see how the next 10 games go. The Bucks have had a bunny schedule that will gear up dramatically.
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Post#73 » by jschligs » Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:42 pm

SirChurros wrote:What is the black thing KPJ is wearing on his nose during games? The secret elixir?


Covers his nose ring. Used to see a lot of guys do it on their ears back in the day. If that thing snags his nostril is splitting wide open.
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Post#74 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:45 pm

Biggest playoff conundrum is still gonna be what happens when Brook and Bobby get matchup'd off the floor against a team that can "go small". Thankfully, if we stay in the 4/5 side of the bracket, that likely won't happen until the ECF at the earliest (Boston/Knicks). But we still don't know how committed Doc is gonna be to a Kuzma/Giannis frontcourt when he needs to be.
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Post#75 » by tedbrogen » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:14 pm

Not sure why people want to immediately give Bobby 25-30 mpg after he will have sat out almost a third of the season. Especially when it’s clear based on the recent run that you need athletes who move the ball, and he’s quite literally the opposite of that. Also, he’s entirely redundant since KPJ gets you the bench buckets anyways. And he does so without killing the flow of the offense.
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Post#76 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:19 pm

Hell, we won the championship, game 6 with a bench of Pat, 23 minutes, Portis 23 minutes and Teague 2 minutes. That's it. Game 5 those 3 played 33, 19 and 8 minutes respectively. Game 4 similar.

The famous game 7 against the Nets. Overtime. Bench was Pat 23 minutes, Forbes 5 minutes and Thanasis 1 minute. Bobby didn't even play.

You don't want/need a deep playoff rotation. In blowouts extra guys will play but we won a championship with 7.
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Post#77 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:23 pm

I've long been on the "replace Bobby with an athletic big" train, but saying that KPJ plays within the flow of the offense is a massive exaggeration at best. Dude has a 27% usage rate right now and this current run is very reminiscent of those multi-game stretches where Bobby would be scorching the nets from mid-range. In a playoff series, you're gonna need to know when to pull both guys off the court lest they chuck you out of the game. They're very similar offensive players right down to the "emotional blowup" potential lol.

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Post#78 » by MKE_Hodag22 » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:23 pm

SirChurros wrote:What is the black thing KPJ is wearing on his nose during games? The secret elixir?

I believe its some kind of athletic tape to cover a nose ring he has, that probably cant be removed.
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Post#79 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:40 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Hell, we won the championship, game 6 with a bench of Pat, 23 minutes, Portis 23 minutes and Teague 2 minutes. That's it. Game 5 those 3 played 33, 19 and 8 minutes respectively. Game 4 similar.

The famous game 7 against the Nets. Overtime. Bench was Pat 23 minutes, Forbes 5 minutes and Thanasis 1 minute. Bobby didn't even play.

You don't want/need a deep playoff rotation. In blowouts extra guys will play but we won a championship with 7.

We did lose 30 MPG from DDv, so i think the original plan was to condense to 8 guys. (the only other rotational guys we had going in that dropped were Teague, Forbes and a little Nwora)
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Post#80 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:45 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Hell, we won the championship, game 6 with a bench of Pat, 23 minutes, Portis 23 minutes and Teague 2 minutes. That's it. Game 5 those 3 played 33, 19 and 8 minutes respectively. Game 4 similar.

The famous game 7 against the Nets. Overtime. Bench was Pat 23 minutes, Forbes 5 minutes and Thanasis 1 minute. Bobby didn't even play.

You don't want/need a deep playoff rotation. In blowouts extra guys will play but we won a championship with 7.

We did lose 30 MPG from DDv, so i think the original plan was to condense to 8 guys. (the only other rotational guys we had going in that dropped were Teague, Forbes and a little Nwora)


Good point. DDV got hurt in round 1.
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