Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[raincityraptors]

When healthy I expect him to be our number 1 option at the end of games and probably our best player.

That isn't controversial to me because he's older and has made the jump from a good at everything master of none versatile wing to 1st option type scorer. Scottie has not made that jump yet. RJ has been our offensive engine this season and is leading the team in scoring again.

I love Scottie (only official jersey I bought is his) and RJ is my favorite player but I think people are seriously sleeping on Ingram. We haven't seen his prime yet.

I already think he's the best player on the team. Let's see how this post ages next season.

[Raps in 4]

When healthy I expect him to be our number 1 option at the end of games and probably our best player.

That isn't controversial to me because he's older and has made the jump from a good at everything master of none versatile wing to 1st option type scorer. Scottie has not made that jump yet. RJ has been our offensive engine this season and is leading the team in scoring again.

I love Scottie (only official jersey I bought is his) and RJ is my favorite player but I think people are seriously sleeping on Ingram. We haven't seen his prime yet.

I already think he's the best player on the team. Let's see how this post ages next season.

BI is only a first option scorer if your goal is to be mediocre. He is the most gifted shot maker on our team right now, but that's not a particularly high bar to cross. You could make the argument that he's a top-30ish player. If we want to get back into contention, we're going to need to find a better option (ideally with our pick this year).

[Rodrickle]

When healthy I expect him to be our number 1 option at the end of games and probably our best player.

That isn't controversial to me because he's older and has made the jump from a good at everything master of none versatile wing to 1st option type scorer. Scottie has not made that jump yet. RJ has been our offensive engine this season and is leading the team in scoring again.

I love Scottie (only official jersey I bought is his) and RJ is my favorite player but I think people are seriously sleeping on Ingram. We haven't seen his prime yet.

I already think he's the best player on the team. Let's see how this post ages next season.

BI is only a first option scorer if your goal is to be mediocre. He is the most gifted shot maker on our team right now, but that's not a particularly high bar to cross. You could make the argument that he's a top-30ish player. If we want to get back into contention, we're going to need to find a better option (ideally with our pick this year).

We'll be very, very lucky, to get a player as good as Brandon Ingram in this draft. I would say it's very unlikely outside of Flagg. We can still be a good team next year with BI closing games with Scottie, Quick and RJ. Maybe Walter takes a step next year. Not a title contender but a team maybe in the 4-6 seed mix. Good team to build on. But likely route is a another Kawhi, Donovan Mitchell type trade in the future to propel us title contention.

[Rodrickle]

When healthy I expect him to be our number 1 option at the end of games and probably our best player.

That isn't controversial to me because he's older and has made the jump from a good at everything master of none versatile wing to 1st option type scorer. Scottie has not made that jump yet. RJ has been our offensive engine this season and is leading the team in scoring again.

I love Scottie (only official jersey I bought is his) and RJ is my favorite player but I think people are seriously sleeping on Ingram. We haven't seen his prime yet.

I already think he's the best player on the team. Let's see how this post ages next season.

BI is only a first option scorer if your goal is to be mediocre. He is the most gifted shot maker on our team right now, but that's not a particularly high bar to cross. You could make the argument that he's a top-30ish player. If we want to get back into contention, we're going to need to find a better option (ideally with our pick this year).

We'll be very, very lucky, to get a player as good as Brandon Ingram in this draft. I would say it's very unlikely outside of Flagg and I still don't see Flagg being a 1st option, more like a great 2nd option. But we can still be a good team next year with BI closing games with Scottie, Quick and RJ. Maybe Walter takes a step next year. Not a title contender but a team maybe in the 4-6 seed mix. Good team to build on. But likely route is a another Kawhi, Donovan Mitchell type trade in the future to propel us title contention.

[nikster]

When healthy I expect him to be our number 1 option at the end of games and probably our best player.

That isn't controversial to me because he's older and has made the jump from a good at everything master of none versatile wing to 1st option type scorer. Scottie has not made that jump yet. RJ has been our offensive engine this season and is leading the team in scoring again.

I love Scottie (only official jersey I bought is his) and RJ is my favorite player but I think people are seriously sleeping on Ingram. We haven't seen his prime yet.

I already think he's the best player on the team. Let's see how this post ages next season.

BI is only a first option scorer if your goal is to be mediocre. He is the most gifted shot maker on our team right now, but that's not a particularly high bar to cross. You could make the argument that he's a top-30ish player. If we want to get back into contention, we're going to need to find a better option (ideally with our pick this year).

We'll be very, very lucky, to get a player as good as Brandon Ingram in this draft. I would say it's very unlikely outside of Flagg. We can still be a good team next year with BI closing games with Scottie, Quick and RJ. Maybe Walter takes a step next year. Not a title contender but a team maybe in the 4-6 seed mix. Good team to build on. But likely route is a another Kawhi, Donovan Mitchell type trade in the future to propel us title contention.

Yeah outside first overall pick you are lucky to get a player like Ingram even high in the lottery. It's likely that a couple of these top 6 prospects won't even be better than RJ

[ArthurVandelay]

BI is only a first option scorer if your goal is to be mediocre. He is the most gifted shot maker on our team right now, but that's not a particularly high bar to cross. You could make the argument that he's a top-30ish player. If we want to get back into contention, we're going to need to find a better option (ideally with our pick this year).

We'll be very, very lucky, to get a player as good as Brandon Ingram in this draft. I would say it's very unlikely outside of Flagg. We can still be a good team next year with BI closing games with Scottie, Quick and RJ. Maybe Walter takes a step next year. Not a title contender but a team maybe in the 4-6 seed mix. Good team to build on. But likely route is a another Kawhi, Donovan Mitchell type trade in the future to propel us title contention.

Yeah outside first overall pick you are lucky to get a player like Ingram even high in the lottery. It's likely that a couple of these top 6 prospects won't even be better than RJ

Most of them probably won't be.

RJ has worts but he isn't a terrible player. Coming out of college as a freshman he was consensus AA scoring 23 points with 7.6 rebounds and 4.3 assists. FT and consistency hitting 3s have always been an issue but he's actually making 3s at pro level above his 31% in college.

I'm all for doing everything we can to get a high pick. Higher the pick, higher probability of getting a great player. But nothing is guaranteed. The sad reality is the probabilities are a top 6 player likely won't be as good as RJ...but that is the power of 'maybe' and 'hope'

[WuTang_CMB]

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[ArthurVandelay]

Read on Twitter

He’s going to be so good as a Raptor

GP is the most uncertain thing about him

[WuTang_CMB]

Watch on YouTube

[dohboy_24]

Watch on YouTube

It's going to be nice having someone like BI3 on the team as a true #1 scoring option who is so smooth on the offensive side of the court.

Not since Kawhi have we had a player as offensively gifted as the Slim Reaper... next season is going to be exciting!

[tsherkin]

Watch on YouTube

It's going to be nice having someone like BI3 on the team as a true #1 scoring option who is so smooth on the offensive side of the court.

Not since Kawhi have we had a player as offensively gifted as the Slim Reaper... next season is going to be exciting!

I don't know about "true #1," that hasn't really been him since hitting the league, but he will represent a large upgrade when he's healthy. He's also going to immediately be the best isolation scorer we've had in a while, which is nice. And honestly, even if he is at league-average efficiency, it's a big upgrade over what Scottie's provided the past two seasons. And he passes well, and can run a PnR, so he isn't even just going to be pure points, which is even nicer.

If our D keeps up and he stays any kind of healthy, we should have a very pleasant season.

[Basketball_Jones]

He looks damn elite in that video lol. Might I say Jamal Crawfordish, who was highly skilled but somehow never cracked good efficiency. There’s just certain guys like that and I feel Ingram is one of them, though perhaps right environment can change things. It’s not like Ingram was horrible efficiency he’s pretty close to good considering his role.

[tsherkin]

He looks damn elite in that video lol. Might I say Jamal Crawfordish, who was highly skilled but somehow never cracked good efficiency. There’s just certain guys like that and I feel Ingram is one of them, though perhaps right environment can change things. It’s not like Ingram was horrible efficiency he’s pretty close to good considering his role.

Ugh, please don't taint BI with Crawford's name. Like Lou Will, he was a nice RS player if all you wanted was streaky scoring and flashy handles. BI is already a better player than either of those guys ever were. Crawford got a little better once he became a perennial 6MOY candidate, and even had some pretty efficient RS performances in that way. His 2010 campaign was pretty good, for example, and 2014 and 2016 were reasonable as well. He was flaming ass in the playoffs, but that's another story.

[mtcan]

He looks damn elite in that video lol. Might I say Jamal Crawfordish, who was highly skilled but somehow never cracked good efficiency. There’s just certain guys like that and I feel Ingram is one of them, though perhaps right environment can change things. It’s not like Ingram was horrible efficiency he’s pretty close to good considering his role.

Ugh, please don't taint BI with Crawford's name. Like Lou Will, he was a nice RS player if all you wanted was streaky scoring and flashy handles. BI is already a better player than either of those guys ever were. Crawford got a little better once he became a perennial 6MOY candidate, and even had some pretty efficient RS performances in that way. His 2010 campaign was pretty good, for example, and 2014 and 2016 were reasonable as well. He was flaming ass in the playoffs, but that's another story.

Crawford is a 6 man microwave scorer.

Ingram is a 1b/2nd option scorer. His shot making is elite and can also pass it. Legit 3 level scorer. After Kawhi...BI is the next best shot maker we may have had in the Masai Ujiri era. The problem with him has always been health. Can he be relied upon to play 70 games? 65 games? If you can get even 65 games and a full playoffs with him...that would be money well spent.

[Westside Gunn]

I cant seem to get going with Ingram in 2k25. RJ Barrett though, unstoppable.

[MainEvent]

so the definition of a #1 scorer in the NBA is a top 12 superstar or what?

[tsherkin]

Crawford is a 6 man microwave scorer.

Ingram is a 1b/2nd option scorer. His shot making is elite and can also pass it. Legit 3 level scorer. After Kawhi...BI is the next best shot maker we may have had in the Masai Ujiri era.

Yeah. He's on a level with late-career DeRozan, but with legit 3pt range, for sure. Trades foul draw and rim pressure for 3pt shooting. But he's on a level with post-Toronto DeRozan as a shot maker, for sure.

The problem with him has always been health. Can he be relied upon to play 70 games? 65 games? If you can get even 65 games and a full playoffs with him...that would be money well spent.

Yep. Yeah, he's a solid acquisition, we just need to treat him as what he is and not what we want him to be, right? Dude isn't a superstar. He's a solid scorer who can make some plays for others. Quality add, but not a Kawhi-level guy.

[anotherhomer]

Crawford is a 6 man microwave scorer.

Ingram is a 1b/2nd option scorer. His shot making is elite and can also pass it. Legit 3 level scorer. After Kawhi...BI is the next best shot maker we may have had in the Masai Ujiri era.

Yeah. He's on a level with late-career DeRozan, but with legit 3pt range, for sure. Trades foul draw and rim pressure for 3pt shooting. But he's on a level with post-Toronto DeRozan as a shot maker, for sure.

The problem with him has always been health. Can he be relied upon to play 70 games? 65 games? If you can get even 65 games and a full playoffs with him...that would be money well spent.

Yep. Yeah, he's a solid acquisition, we just need to treat him as what he is and not what we want him to be, right? Dude isn't a superstar. He's a solid scorer who can make some plays for others. Quality add, but not a Kawhi-level guy.

a guy who can get you back into the playoffs, not bad

[tsherkin]

a guy who can get you back into the playoffs, not bad

Depending on if he can stay healthy and what the rest of the team does. It's worth remembering that we were the 6th-worst offense in the league. Adding a league-average-efficiency 20 ppg scorer will go only so far to fixing that. So the specifics of his health, and what the ripple effect of his injection into the roster will do for us will change a lot about our chances for the postseason.

Hopefully, him being on the floor causes enough of a chain reaction for us to get close to an average offense, and we maintain an above-average defense. That's a little conservative, given how we played over the last 40+ games on D, so yeah, if we can keep it together on O and BI can stay healthy, we've got a decent shot!

[mtcan]

Crawford is a 6 man microwave scorer.

Ingram is a 1b/2nd option scorer. His shot making is elite and can also pass it. Legit 3 level scorer. After Kawhi...BI is the next best shot maker we may have had in the Masai Ujiri era.

Yeah. He's on a level with late-career DeRozan, but with legit 3pt range, for sure. Trades foul draw and rim pressure for 3pt shooting. But he's on a level with post-Toronto DeRozan as a shot maker, for sure.

The problem with him has always been health. Can he be relied upon to play 70 games? 65 games? If you can get even 65 games and a full playoffs with him...that would be money well spent.

Yep. Yeah, he's a solid acquisition, we just need to treat him as what he is and not what we want him to be, right? Dude isn't a superstar. He's a solid scorer who can make some plays for others. Quality add, but not a Kawhi-level guy.

Late career Demar with more length and 3 point shooting is a damn fine player.