At what point do Lakers fans owe Darvin Ham an apology?

[Godymas]

So far JJ Redick has taken virtually the same Lakers roster with an actual slam dunk of a draft pick to a worse outcome than Darvin Ham at this point in the season.

At the end of November the Lakers were 11-9 last year. Today the Lakes are currently 11-8.

However, the outcome is worse because the Lakers have been knocked out of the NBA Cup while Ham's Lakers, as we know, would go on to win the NBA Cup.

The NBA Cup was not a wash, that same Pacers team that the Lakers beat would go on to make the ECF in the playoffs that year.

The Lakers are a different team this year. Ham had the Lakers play with pace. They were 2nd and 3rd in the league in pace. Additionally, the Lakers were closer to average in terms of their defense and offense with a barely positive net rating. Under JJ's tenure the Lakers have had one of the worst defenses in the NBA and are winning games off their offense. Their pace is significantly slower too. Their net rating is negative and implies their record is better than their actual performance.

Now obviously there are minute differences between this year and last year. LeBron is a year older, Dalton Knecht is the rookie rather than the bust Jalen Hood Schifino. Taurean Prince is not on the team anymore.

But to blame Darvin Ham when he was responsible for pushing the Lakers to that WCF appearance is a bit extreme. Btw, the Lakers lost to the same team in the playoffs two years in a row under Darvin Ham. There is only so much a coach can do against a clear mismatch of rosters.

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you![/quote

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

[Godymas]

So far JJ Redick has taken virtually the same Lakers roster with an actual slam dunk of a draft pick to a worse outcome than Darvin Ham at this point in the season.

At the end of November the Lakers were 11-9 last year. Today the Lakes are currently 11-8.

However, the outcome is worse because the Lakers have been knocked out of the NBA Cup while Ham's Lakers, as we know, would go on to win the NBA Cup.

The NBA Cup was not a wash, that same Pacers team that the Lakers beat would go on to make the ECF in the playoffs that year.

The Lakers are a different team this year. Ham had the Lakers play with pace. They were 2nd and 3rd in the league in pace. Additionally, the Lakers were closer to average in terms of their defense and offense with a barely positive net rating. Under JJ's tenure the Lakers have had one of the worst defenses in the NBA and are winning games off their offense. Their pace is significantly slower too. Their net rating is negative and implies their record is better than their actual performance.

Now obviously there are minute differences between this year and last year. LeBron is a year older, Dalton Knecht is the rookie rather than the bust Jalen Hood Schifino. Taurean Prince is not on the team anymore.

But to blame Darvin Ham when he was responsible for pushing the Lakers to that WCF appearance is a bit extreme. Btw, the Lakers lost to the same team in the playoffs two years in a row under Darvin Ham. There is only so much a coach can do against a clear mismatch of rosters.

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you!

He will likely said,this is because of the Luka trade but the lakers were 31-19 before the first game of Luka with the lakers and they were in a 11-2 run!

They also dropped DLo

Winning and DLo don't go together, so the thread, unfortunately, became irrelevant when the Lakers decided to be a good FO and your inability to recognize this just continues to show how bad your fanbase is

[oversteerdawg]

TIL Darvin Ham is on rgm

[Homer38]

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

Not even close to be true.The lakers after 50 games last season,they were 25-25,this year they were 31-19 without a single game of Luka

[Tracymcgoaty]

So far JJ Redick has taken virtually the same Lakers roster with an actual slam dunk of a draft pick to a worse outcome than Darvin Ham at this point in the season.

At the end of November the Lakers were 11-9 last year. Today the Lakes are currently 11-8.

However, the outcome is worse because the Lakers have been knocked out of the NBA Cup while Ham's Lakers, as we know, would go on to win the NBA Cup.

The NBA Cup was not a wash, that same Pacers team that the Lakers beat would go on to make the ECF in the playoffs that year.

The Lakers are a different team this year. Ham had the Lakers play with pace. They were 2nd and 3rd in the league in pace. Additionally, the Lakers were closer to average in terms of their defense and offense with a barely positive net rating. Under JJ's tenure the Lakers have had one of the worst defenses in the NBA and are winning games off their offense. Their pace is significantly slower too. Their net rating is negative and implies their record is better than their actual performance.

Now obviously there are minute differences between this year and last year. LeBron is a year older, Dalton Knecht is the rookie rather than the bust Jalen Hood Schifino. Taurean Prince is not on the team anymore.

But to blame Darvin Ham when he was responsible for pushing the Lakers to that WCF appearance is a bit extreme. Btw, the Lakers lost to the same team in the playoffs two years in a row under Darvin Ham. There is only so much a coach can do against a clear mismatch of rosters.

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man you're cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you![/quote

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

[Tracymcgoaty]

So far JJ Redick has taken virtually the same Lakers roster with an actual slam dunk of a draft pick to a worse outcome than Darvin Ham at this point in the season.

At the end of November the Lakers were 11-9 last year. Today the Lakes are currently 11-8.

However, the outcome is worse because the Lakers have been knocked out of the NBA Cup while Ham's Lakers, as we know, would go on to win the NBA Cup.

The NBA Cup was not a wash, that same Pacers team that the Lakers beat would go on to make the ECF in the playoffs that year.

The Lakers are a different team this year. Ham had the Lakers play with pace. They were 2nd and 3rd in the league in pace. Additionally, the Lakers were closer to average in terms of their defense and offense with a barely positive net rating. Under JJ's tenure the Lakers have had one of the worst defenses in the NBA and are winning games off their offense. Their pace is significantly slower too. Their net rating is negative and implies their record is better than their actual performance.

Now obviously there are minute differences between this year and last year. LeBron is a year older, Dalton Knecht is the rookie rather than the bust Jalen Hood Schifino. Taurean Prince is not on the team anymore.

But to blame Darvin Ham when he was responsible for pushing the Lakers to that WCF appearance is a bit extreme. Btw, the Lakers lost to the same team in the playoffs two years in a row under Darvin Ham. There is only so much a coach can do against a clear mismatch of rosters.

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you![/quote

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man your cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you!

He will likely said,this is because of the Luka trade but the lakers were 31-19 before the first game of Luka with the lakers and they were in a 11-2 run!

They also dropped DLo

Winning and DLo don't go together, so the thread, unfortunately, became irrelevant when the Lakers decided to be a good FO and your inability to recognize this just continues to show how bad your fanbase is

This is such a coward response

Yo we were missing a DPOY candidate and a 25ppg scorer in AD during that stretch as well.

[Godymas]

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you![/quote

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man your cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

let me explain this to you in some very simple terms so you don't hurt your head. I see the basics of quoting someone correctly is already too much to handle.

The Lakers last year won 48 games which is a 58% win rate.

As per your number JJ had you at a 60% win rate at 29-19.

No obviously every year the NBA sets a schedule and teams have stretches of easier games and stretches of harder games.

Now Anthony Davis played 42 games this year as a Laker. So you've got 6 games no AD which is actually pretty normal for what AD gave Ham.

So I hope this clears things up

[SeattleJazzFan]

imagine wasting the luka acquisition with ham as HC. i mean, as a jazz fan, it would be funny, but as an nba fan, just sad.

[Homer38]

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[dautjazz]

Yeah im not reading all that nonsense you wrote but i just wanted to say HI! I feel like you owe the laker fans who were saying Ham was trash for like 2 years an apology! Watch the games next time! First take isn't good for you![/quote

Nah, they don't get an apology, the roster turned around after the trade. The AD built team was on the same win % as last year.

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man your cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

let me explain this to you in some very simple terms so you don't hurt your head. I see the basics of quoting someone correctly is already too much to handle.

The Lakers last year won 48 games which is a 58% win rate.

As per your number JJ had you at a 60% win rate at 29-19.

No obviously every year the NBA sets a schedule and teams have stretches of easier games and stretches of harder games.

Now Anthony Davis played 42 games this year as a Laker. So you've got 6 games no AD which is actually pretty normal for what AD gave Ham.

So I hope this clears things up

Just let it go. Reddick is in the running for COY, Ham wasn't. Most people think Reddick is a better coach.

[Tracymcgoaty]

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man your cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

let me explain this to you in some very simple terms so you don't hurt your head. I see the basics of quoting someone correctly is already too much to handle.

The Lakers last year won 48 games which is a 58% win rate.

As per your number JJ had you at a 60% win rate at 29-19.

No obviously every year the NBA sets a schedule and teams have stretches of easier games and stretches of harder games.

Now Anthony Davis played 42 games this year as a Laker. So you've got 6 games no AD which is actually pretty normal for what AD gave Ham.

So I hope this clears things up

Just let it go. Reddick is in the running for COY, Ham wasn't. Most people think Reddick is a better coach.

Let it go? He's already done died on that Darvin Ham apology hill. Now he's trying his best to push forth one last effort.

Hilarious to see Pat Bev basically confirming what we all said his first damn season here. He has no tactics or plays. It's all him just trying to be motivational speaker. As is shown during post game pressers whenever they ask him well what did coach X do to make it so difficult for you guys?

Ham: Oh well they're a fantastic team helluva team their coach is great we had no answers for x y z.

He's a bum.

Look at your team now under JJ. You actually have a coach pointing and shouting to players about where they should be. He holds players accountable when they **** up. He doesn't jam his hands into his pockets with this stunted look in his face as if he's trying to solve the da vinci code.

But OP's gonna change it to DLO was traded so you cant compare anymore. So DFS is the difference between a 25-25 record and a 31-19 record? Go ahead and give him the MVP if thats the case. Unprecedented levels of impact.

We were balling out before the Luka even played a game for us. When luka played his first game we had a record of 31-19 and thats with AD missing most of those games where we had that stretch of winning and post trade when we didn't have him anymore.

[dWadeOwnzYou]

To be fair to Mr. Ham, this Lakers team is now a totally different roster post trade and this thread should be irrelevant. He was actually doing better if you compared at the beginning of the season when the roster was somewhat similar under both coaches. Lock this thread please.

[Tracymcgoaty]

To be fair to Mr. Ham, this Lakers team is now a totally different roster post trade and this thread should be irrelevant. He was actually doing better if you compared at the beginning of the season when the roster was somewhat similar under both coaches. Lock this thread please.

The only difference when we had a 31-19 record was that DLO got replaced with DFS and AD got traded for Luka. Luka had not played one game for us until after 31-19

So yeah JJ went winning without arguably our best player and Ham had us hovering around 25-25 at that same point.

Unless you mean the difference between 25-25 record and a 31-19 record is DFS.

[Godymas]

What are you babbling on about? Compare their records a month ago before Luka even played a game JJ had us at 29-19 without AD playing and Darvin had us hovering around .500

Apologize man your cousin is a trash basketball coach thats why nobody offered him a gig after he rightfully got his ass canned.

let me explain this to you in some very simple terms so you don't hurt your head. I see the basics of quoting someone correctly is already too much to handle.

The Lakers last year won 48 games which is a 58% win rate.

As per your number JJ had you at a 60% win rate at 29-19.

No obviously every year the NBA sets a schedule and teams have stretches of easier games and stretches of harder games.

Now Anthony Davis played 42 games this year as a Laker. So you've got 6 games no AD which is actually pretty normal for what AD gave Ham.

So I hope this clears things up

Just let it go. Reddick is in the running for COY, Ham wasn't. Most people think Reddick is a better coach.

Reddick is only in COY running because of the Doncic trade, no one thought he belonged in that conversation until then, which is a bit silly to think about really, that a GMs move that improves the roster suddenly propels a coach to COY

[Godymas]

Tracymcwhatever has already proven worth of ignoring, can't seem to understand nuance, so no point engaging rlly

[Mamba Mentality]

People still arguing on behalf of Ham, even after a former player called him out on his bull. This is some next level coping.

[Beethoven]

Nobody owes no one an apology. Each group did what they do according to their defining job descriptions. Darvin tried to coach the best he could, and the fans can react however they like within reason.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Tracymcwhatever has already proven worth of ignoring, can't seem to understand nuance, so no point engaging rlly

I actually watch the games...Clearly you dont

[Tracymcgoaty]

People still arguing on behalf of Ham, even after a former player called him out on his bull. This is some next level coping.

You dont understand nuance!