The Rob Dillingham Thread

[TheZachAttack]

I do not agree that Rob Dillingham has been a net-positive offensively.

I don't think Mike Conley has been a net positive offensively.

[Klomp]

I commented on that. My personal opinion is that he does give a lot of effort. He does get overwhelmed though in certain matchups, hunted, and struggles to fight through screens. I would counter and say this version of Mike Conley has the same issues with less of the upside of Rob.

So, you are choosing the best of Rob over the worst of Mike. How brave.

I don't know what this means and I'm not trying to be brave or not brave -- I am just stating my opinion. Yes, my personal opinion is that Rob's upside, speed, rim pressure, and shotmaking is worth switching Conley and Rob's role. Both players have some strength and also flaws. If you'd rather play Conley, good for you. We aren't going to contend in the playoffs playing this version of Mike Conley 20-25 min or more a game. Given Conley's level of play this year, I think choosing to bet on Rob's upside nets you a better chance of becoming a team that takes a step forward from where they are now. I think it's more likely than Conley doing that because he doesn't have much athletism.

If you like Conley over Rob, happy for you. it's pretty clear he will have a role and Rob will not this season. So, you'll get your wish.

This is the biggest issue I take with the argument. Mike isn't above Rob because the team thinks he will still be better than Rob years down the road. Mike is higher in the rotation because the team trusts him more today. That's it. We are trying to win games for 2024-25 right now, not for 2027-28.

[TheZachAttack]

So, you are choosing the best of Rob over the worst of Mike. How brave.

I don't know what this means and I'm not trying to be brave or not brave -- I am just stating my opinion. Yes, my personal opinion is that Rob's upside, speed, rim pressure, and shotmaking is worth switching Conley and Rob's role. Both players have some strength and also flaws. If you'd rather play Conley, good for you. We aren't going to contend in the playoffs playing this version of Mike Conley 20-25 min or more a game. Given Conley's level of play this year, I think choosing to bet on Rob's upside nets you a better chance of becoming a team that takes a step forward from where they are now. I think it's more likely than Conley doing that because he doesn't have much athletism.

If you like Conley over Rob, happy for you. it's pretty clear he will have a role and Rob will not this season. So, you'll get your wish.

This is the biggest issue I take with the argument. Mike isn't above Rob because the team thinks he will still be better than Rob years down the road. Mike is higher in the rotation because the team trusts him more today. That's it. We are trying to win games for 2024-25 right now, not for 2027-28.

I think Mike is bad and hurts the team from winning games. If it's not Rob, then I want Dante, Shannon, NAW, and others playing more minutes over Conley. Conley doesn't help the team win this year, he's the weakest link. I have seen flashes from Rob that suggest that if he was able to get a consistent role his play would reflect that and that he would play better than Mike. With Rob, there is upside that he could be a positive player and in the regular season we should be trying to develop that upside. If Rob isn't ready, then let's turn Conley into the break if glass Ingles player.

As the OKC coach said recently in another interview, we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't fully understand our team by the time the playoffs happen so we understand what we have and what we can do. We know what Conley is and we know he's aged into a below average bit player. He is going to be that whether or not he gets regular season time. We should fully know what we have and be trying to win, not trying to be scared of losing.

Playing Conley is what you do if you're scared of losing. Playing Rob is what you do if you want to win and bet on the chance of a higher level of outcomes. If Rob isn't ready by the playoffs... guess what you can play Conley. If you never try to give Rob that role... you will never know. Not ever giving yourself the chance to know is bad coaching behavior not good coaching behavior.

[Domejandro]

I don't know what this means and I'm not trying to be brave or not brave -- I am just stating my opinion. Yes, my personal opinion is that Rob's upside, speed, rim pressure, and shotmaking is worth switching Conley and Rob's role. Both players have some strength and also flaws. If you'd rather play Conley, good for you. We aren't going to contend in the playoffs playing this version of Mike Conley 20-25 min or more a game. Given Conley's level of play this year, I think choosing to bet on Rob's upside nets you a better chance of becoming a team that takes a step forward from where they are now. I think it's more likely than Conley doing that because he doesn't have much athletism.

If you like Conley over Rob, happy for you. it's pretty clear he will have a role and Rob will not this season. So, you'll get your wish.

This is the biggest issue I take with the argument. Mike isn't above Rob because the team thinks he will still be better than Rob years down the road. Mike is higher in the rotation because the team trusts him more today. That's it. We are trying to win games for 2024-25 right now, not for 2027-28.

I think Mike is bad and hurts the team from winning games. If it's not Rob, then I want Dante, Shannon, NAW, and others playing more minutes over Conley. Conley doesn't help the team win this year, he's the weakest link. I have seen flashes from Rob that suggest that if he was able to get a consistent role his play would reflect that and that he would play better than Mike. With Rob, there is upside that he could be a positive player and in the regular season we should be trying to develop that upside. If Rob isn't ready, then let's turn Conley into the break if glass Ingles player.

As the OKC coach said recently in another interview, we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't fully understand our team by the time the playoffs happen so we understand what we have and what we can do. We know what Conley is and we know he's aged into a below average bit player. He is going to be that whether or not he gets regular season time. We should fully know what we have and be trying to win, not trying to be scared of losing.

Playing Conley is what you do if you're scared of losing. Playing Rob is what you do if you want to win and bet on the chance of a higher level of outcomes. If Rob isn't ready by the playoffs... guess what you can play Conley. If you never try to give Rob that role... you will never know. Not ever giving yourself the chance to know is bad coaching behavior not good coaching behavior.

Rob Dillingham had a stretch of games which offered a substantial amount of minutes, and the dude was largely brutal on both sides of the court. I am not opposed to others eating into Mike Conley’s minutes, but Rob Dillingham cannot be that person, if you are trying to win games. He is extremely turnover prone, inefficient as a scorer, and unplayable defensively.

While I think he is mostly cooked, Mike Conley is effectively a net-neutral on the court, for the most part. He is a net-negative when defending larger guards, but Dillingham is absolutely not the solution for those scenarios.

[winforlose]

This is the biggest issue I take with the argument. Mike isn't above Rob because the team thinks he will still be better than Rob years down the road. Mike is higher in the rotation because the team trusts him more today. That's it. We are trying to win games for 2024-25 right now, not for 2027-28.

I think Mike is bad and hurts the team from winning games. If it's not Rob, then I want Dante, Shannon, NAW, and others playing more minutes over Conley. Conley doesn't help the team win this year, he's the weakest link. I have seen flashes from Rob that suggest that if he was able to get a consistent role his play would reflect that and that he would play better than Mike. With Rob, there is upside that he could be a positive player and in the regular season we should be trying to develop that upside. If Rob isn't ready, then let's turn Conley into the break if glass Ingles player.

As the OKC coach said recently in another interview, we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't fully understand our team by the time the playoffs happen so we understand what we have and what we can do. We know what Conley is and we know he's aged into a below average bit player. He is going to be that whether or not he gets regular season time. We should fully know what we have and be trying to win, not trying to be scared of losing.

Playing Conley is what you do if you're scared of losing. Playing Rob is what you do if you want to win and bet on the chance of a higher level of outcomes. If Rob isn't ready by the playoffs... guess what you can play Conley. If you never try to give Rob that role... you will never know. Not ever giving yourself the chance to know is bad coaching behavior not good coaching behavior.

Rob Dillingham had a stretch of games which offered a substantial amount of minutes, and the dude was largely brutal on both sides of the court. I am not opposed to others eating into Mike Conley’s minutes, but Rob Dillingham cannot be that person, if you are trying to win games. He is extremely turnover prone, inefficient as a scorer, and unplayable defensively.

While I think he is mostly cooked, Mike Conley is effectively a net-neutral on the court, for the most part. He is a net-negative when defending larger guards, but Dillingham is absolutely not the solution for those scenarios.

DDV and Randle spending the next 18 games improving their PG play is essential for the playoffs. Mike should not get minutes if he cannot defend. We need effective PG play come playoff time and the sad reality is Dilly and Mike are both very limited in what they can provide.

[TheZachAttack]

I think Mike is bad and hurts the team from winning games. If it's not Rob, then I want Dante, Shannon, NAW, and others playing more minutes over Conley. Conley doesn't help the team win this year, he's the weakest link. I have seen flashes from Rob that suggest that if he was able to get a consistent role his play would reflect that and that he would play better than Mike. With Rob, there is upside that he could be a positive player and in the regular season we should be trying to develop that upside. If Rob isn't ready, then let's turn Conley into the break if glass Ingles player.

As the OKC coach said recently in another interview, we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't fully understand our team by the time the playoffs happen so we understand what we have and what we can do. We know what Conley is and we know he's aged into a below average bit player. He is going to be that whether or not he gets regular season time. We should fully know what we have and be trying to win, not trying to be scared of losing.

Playing Conley is what you do if you're scared of losing. Playing Rob is what you do if you want to win and bet on the chance of a higher level of outcomes. If Rob isn't ready by the playoffs... guess what you can play Conley. If you never try to give Rob that role... you will never know. Not ever giving yourself the chance to know is bad coaching behavior not good coaching behavior.

Rob Dillingham had a stretch of games which offered a substantial amount of minutes, and the dude was largely brutal on both sides of the court. I am not opposed to others eating into Mike Conley’s minutes, but Rob Dillingham cannot be that person, if you are trying to win games. He is extremely turnover prone, inefficient as a scorer, and unplayable defensively.

While I think he is mostly cooked, Mike Conley is effectively a net-neutral on the court, for the most part. He is a net-negative when defending larger guards, but Dillingham is absolutely not the solution for those scenarios.

DDV and Randle spending the next 18 games improving their PG play is essential for the playoffs. Mike should not get minutes if he cannot defend. We need effective PG play come playoff time and the sad reality is Dilly and Mike are both very limited in what they can provide.

My only point is that there is no path where Conley is good because of his age. There is a path where with Rob’s talent, experience, and some freedom to make mistakes he could learn how to be what we need. And there’s also room to experiment with Donte, Randle, etc.

We need to figure that role out for the postseason and Conley 1000% isn’t it. Maybe Rob is 500% not it, but there’s a chance and it doesn’t make sense that the Wolves aren’t doing everything they can to maximize their chances for filling that role in the playoffs with a positive.

[Neeva]

Hopefully a new head coach can unleash him next season after he gets stronger, but if not wolves need to move on and trade asap, while he has a semblance of value.

[minimus]

Still love that crazy trade that brought us Rob.

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[MN7725]

Still love that crazy trade that brought us Rob.

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i don't think Wolves do that trade if they knew the KAT trade would happen later

with DDV on that multiyear contract

and now Clark's emergence

[Neeva]

I hope Rob has a huge breakout sophomore season. I still think if it happens it will be under a different head coach.

[Klomp]

i don't think Wolves do that trade if they knew the KAT trade would happen later

with DDV on that multiyear contract

and now Clark's emergence

This might be true.....but I think this was always meant to be a take-it-slow year. Yeah he's probably in the rotation without the trade, but I don't think they ever envisioned 2024-25 would be his peak. He has still shown promise, he is not a lost cause.

[minimus]

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[KGdaBom]

I hope Rob has a huge breakout sophomore season. I still think if it happens it will be under a different head coach.

If it requires a different head coach it won't happen.

[younggunsmn]

This is the biggest issue I take with the argument. Mike isn't above Rob because the team thinks he will still be better than Rob years down the road. Mike is higher in the rotation because the team trusts him more today. That's it. We are trying to win games for 2024-25 right now, not for 2027-28.

I think Mike is bad and hurts the team from winning games. If it's not Rob, then I want Dante, Shannon, NAW, and others playing more minutes over Conley. Conley doesn't help the team win this year, he's the weakest link. I have seen flashes from Rob that suggest that if he was able to get a consistent role his play would reflect that and that he would play better than Mike. With Rob, there is upside that he could be a positive player and in the regular season we should be trying to develop that upside. If Rob isn't ready, then let's turn Conley into the break if glass Ingles player.

As the OKC coach said recently in another interview, we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't fully understand our team by the time the playoffs happen so we understand what we have and what we can do. We know what Conley is and we know he's aged into a below average bit player. He is going to be that whether or not he gets regular season time. We should fully know what we have and be trying to win, not trying to be scared of losing.

Playing Conley is what you do if you're scared of losing. Playing Rob is what you do if you want to win and bet on the chance of a higher level of outcomes. If Rob isn't ready by the playoffs... guess what you can play Conley. If you never try to give Rob that role... you will never know. Not ever giving yourself the chance to know is bad coaching behavior not good coaching behavior.

Rob Dillingham had a stretch of games which offered a substantial amount of minutes, and the dude was largely brutal on both sides of the court. I am not opposed to others eating into Mike Conley’s minutes, but Rob Dillingham cannot be that person, if you are trying to win games. He is extremely turnover prone, inefficient as a scorer, and unplayable defensively.

While I think he is mostly cooked, Mike Conley is effectively a net-neutral on the court, for the most part. He is a net-negative when defending larger guards, but Dillingham is absolutely not the solution for those scenarios.

100% agree.
Rob is not close to playable in the playoffs and Mike is underappreciated, he does so many smart things that go under the radar.

Just watch his defense in game 3.
He is constantly anticipating the actions the Warriors are going to run and using his body and positioning to either break up the action or create a really difficult shot.
The fact that GSW had zero made 3's in the first half had a ton to do with MC.

Casual fans see him not have a good shooting night or miss a few floaters and assume the guy is cooked.
They have no idea his true value to the team.

[jpatrick]

I hope Rob has a huge breakout sophomore season. I still think if it happens it will be under a different head coach.

If it requires a different head coach it won't happen.

I hope Dilly makes a jump defensively. Maybe a growth spurt. But I think at that size, he’s going to be too big of a defensive liability to be a starting point guard on a good team. I know Conley or Chris Paul are small guys, but even in college, they were different. Strong/tough defensive guys. That’s not Rob.

That’s why I wouldn’t be against drafting a PG at 17. Either include Rob in a trade or prep him for a sixth man type role.

[Rookie-Mistake]

I just don't see his lack of size working out in a playoff team.. I think we have to trade him

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[KGdaBom]

I just don't see his lack of size working out in a playoff team.. I think we have to trade him

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Talent will out. If Dilly has the talent his size won't matter much. Maybe he doesn't have the talent, but I sure thought he did.

[Dewey]

Will soon see where Dilly stands with Finch and TC going forward.

[minimus]

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Does he look similar to Jarrett Allen?

[KGdaBom]

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Does he look similar to Jarrett Allen?

I think this should have been in the draft thread.