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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#161 » by mpharris36 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:41 am

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Stop it.

He played hot potato with jHart in the end. He didn't even look at the hoop when he touched the ball and when he would get it on a cut any restitance and he is taking a fade.

He played great defense tonight and it's been consistent. But his offense is terrible.

And I'm sure you'll respond with how it's all thibs fault and sure he could be more creative. But we've had other sg thrive in this archaic offense. He'll I'd take bullock right now. He wasn't afraid to shoot



oh yes...a guy that took 6 shots...that didn't touch the ball for maybe the entire 4th qtr...now is indecisive and not aggressive....how could that ever happen?

Thats why the offense needs to be more aggressive in getting better looks and running set for his personell. Mikal isn't Donte...mikal isn't just going to bomb 10 3's a game with range. If thats the role you are putting him in he's going to fail at it...

its the same reason KAT doesn't get good looks...he is just uber talented offensively so he makes his own offense most of the time. But rarely does KAT get an open look.


Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.


Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?
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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#162 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:41 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Anyone blaming Thibs for Mikal being trash is bugging


quote me

I already have. You been trashing OG to make up excuses for your boy Mikal. Nasty work
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Post#163 » by Buttah304 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:41 am

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he's got to be more aggressive no doubt...maybe the injury to brunson (only silver lining I can think of) will open things up to him.

But in all seriousness do you want him to rip the ball away from his teammates...he is banished to sitting in the corner like he's in the shadow realm.


You know deep down in your very core that the second Mikal shoveled that pass to Mitch in no man’s land he had already mentally checked out of this game offensively. Look at that possession again, squint a little and tell me if you see Ben Simmons


Should have waited to throw a lob but he gives it up way too early cause he didn't want the rock. Man is a mess


Not only that but when he does get the ball he’s always going backwards. Looking like Okoro with an endless supply of minutes
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Post#164 » by dakomish23 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:42 am

Updated

Vs the other 5 top teams in the East
CLE: 0-2
BOS: 0-3
MIL: 2-0
IND: 2-1
DET: 1-2

Vs the top 6 in the West
OKC: 0-2
LAL: 0-2
DEN: 2-0
MEM: 2-0
HOU: 1-1
GSW: 0-1

11-14

GSW 3/15
MIL 3/28
CLE 4/2
BOS 4/8
DET 4/10
CLE 4/11 (CLE will probably be sitting guys by then)

So at best we could end up 17-14
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Post#165 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:42 am

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So much cooking right here. You hate to see it.

- Another easy path for the Celtics an organization FAT from championships.

- A chance for the Lakers to get one more chip for Bron before he retires (an organization FAT from championship)

- Trading Doncic, a generational talent to an organization with a history riddled with top superstars.

- KAT is a tall 3pt shooting slug with a boulder in tow.
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Post#166 » by Guano » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:42 am

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Guano wrote:
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oh yes...a guy that took 6 shots...that didn't touch the ball for maybe the entire 4th qtr...now is indecisive and not aggressive....how could that ever happen?

Thats why the offense needs to be more aggressive in getting better looks and running set for his personell. Mikal isn't Donte...mikal isn't just going to bomb 10 3's a game with range. If thats the role you are putting him in he's going to fail at it...

its the same reason KAT doesn't get good looks...he is just uber talented offensively so he makes his own offense most of the time. But rarely does KAT get an open look.


Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.


Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?


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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#167 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:43 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:We had a 102.8 ORTG :lol:


Holy ****.


whats our offensive rating vs the top teams now? :lol:





105 ORTG vs Cavs
112 ORTG vs Celtics
103 ORTG vs Thunder
*110 ORTG vs Magic
101.0 ORTG vs Lakers
105.2 ORTG vs Warriors
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* Next to the Magic because they're second in the league defensively. Grizz, Wolves and Bucks are the only top 10 defensive teams we haven't absolutely sucked ass against offensively.
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Post#168 » by JBreezeNY » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:43 am

Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being deliberately obtuse.
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Post#169 » by mpharris36 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:44 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Anyone blaming Thibs for Mikal being trash is bugging


quote me

I already have. You been trashing OG to make up excuses for your boy Mikal. Nasty work


no one's trashing OG my man. In a game thread if he makes a bad play I comment. When he makes a good play I comment.

You get on people for subliminals but then throw out subliminals all the time. "people blaming thibs". Just quote me.
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Post#170 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:45 am

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Stop it.

He played hot potato with jHart in the end. He didn't even look at the hoop when he touched the ball and when he would get it on a cut any restitance and he is taking a fade.

He played great defense tonight and it's been consistent. But his offense is terrible.

And I'm sure you'll respond with how it's all thibs fault and sure he could be more creative. But we've had other sg thrive in this archaic offense. He'll I'd take bullock right now. He wasn't afraid to shoot



oh yes...a guy that took 6 shots...that didn't touch the ball for maybe the entire 4th qtr...now is indecisive and not aggressive....how could that ever happen?

Thats why the offense needs to be more aggressive in getting better looks and running set for his personell. Mikal isn't Donte...mikal isn't just going to bomb 10 3's a game with range. If thats the role you are putting him in he's going to fail at it...

its the same reason KAT doesn't get good looks...he is just uber talented offensively so he makes his own offense most of the time. But rarely does KAT get an open look.


Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.

We could use a coaching upgrade but Mikal was awful last season in Brooklyn. He won’t admit that though.
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Post#171 » by robillionaire » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:45 am

JBreezeNY wrote:Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.


No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot
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Post#172 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:45 am

snadler wrote:Anyone calling for thibs job, you better want KAT shipped out, because no coach is ever going to get KAT to be an average defender or a tough physical player.

One on one he should be able to defend Hayes. Leave Mitch or OG to defend LeBron.

As far as schemes go ... :noway: ... something something Thibs. :banghead:
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Post#173 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:46 am

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One win off from 500 in a 20 game sample ill take it


Bucks are 8-2 in their last 10, we were 6-4 with Brunson. This team without him is cooked.


That's overly pessimistic. Bucks have the harder trail end of the schedule. Knicks have the tie breaker. You're assuming a catastrophic meltdown. This team can play .500 ball.




If he's out for an extended period of time we're cooked. The team's offense has been in freefall since the new year, we're 12th in the league offensively since then, that is with Jalen. The offense and lack of creativity without him is going to be horrific.
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Post#174 » by ezmoney707 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:46 am

I also could care less about the regular season record against this team or that team. That **** doesn’t matter, we could easily be beat by the Bucks in the playoffs who we have a great head to head record against this year. None of that **** matters come playoff time. Just be healthy, figure out some semblance of an offense when Brunson is off the floor, and play better defense (like tonight)
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Post#175 » by mpharris36 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:46 am

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Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.


Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?


Your loyalty is comendable


Let be fair here...I'm defending his skill set. I'm not defending his play. I'm not on here saying bridges is playing up to his potential he's not. I'm saying he's being used incorrectly.

You don't give up that package...and not run plays for him. If anything I think thats going to get Thibs fired down the road. The FO clearly believes in Bridges talent and fit to this team. He is being used like Dorien Finney Smith...can we at least agree with that?
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Post#176 » by Guano » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:46 am

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You know deep down in your very core that the second Mikal shoveled that pass to Mitch in no man’s land he had already mentally checked out of this game offensively. Look at that possession again, squint a little and tell me if you see Ben Simmons


Should have waited to throw a lob but he gives it up way too early cause he didn't want the rock. Man is a mess


Not only that but when he does get the ball he’s always going backwards. Looking like Okoro with an endless supply of minutes


It's frustrating to watch. He doesn't even look at the hoop when he gets the ball he is actively trying to get rid of it. And any time he has it in the paint if it's not clear he is taking a fade.

And we are nearing the end of the season and I honestly can't speak on his handle. OG's is comical but he atleast attacks with his. We never see novatilikina show his off.

I'm disgusted we gave up 5 picks for him. I wanted us to stagger him with the bench to create but he has shown he can do that or even wants to at all this season.
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Post#177 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:47 am

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Guano wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

oh yes...a guy that took 6 shots...that didn't touch the ball for maybe the entire 4th qtr...now is indecisive and not aggressive....how could that ever happen?

Thats why the offense needs to be more aggressive in getting better looks and running set for his personell. Mikal isn't Donte...mikal isn't just going to bomb 10 3's a game with range. If thats the role you are putting him in he's going to fail at it...

its the same reason KAT doesn't get good looks...he is just uber talented offensively so he makes his own offense most of the time. But rarely does KAT get an open look.


Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.


Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?

On important nights, this is an iso-offense. Who knows, maybe Randle wasn’t even that terrible and only looked like a brainless iso-chucker because of this dynamic…? I guess we’ll never know.
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Post#178 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:47 am

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
quote me

I already have. You been trashing OG to make up excuses for your boy Mikal. Nasty work


no one's trashing OG my man. In a game thread if he makes a bad play I comment. When he makes a good play I comment.

You get on people for subliminals but then throw out subliminals all the time. "people blaming thibs". Just quote me.

Bruh you been trashing OG every game while caping for Mikal. I been called you out for it. No subs there. And Get out of here with this narcissistic sht. You’re clearly not the only one who’s going in on Thibs for Mikal being trash. You Villanova fans won’t admit he’s mid.
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Post#179 » by JBreezeNY » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:49 am

robillionaire wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.


No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot


I just said we don’t run plays and Mikal isn’t an iso player….


……then you use an iso player as an example.

You and people that have this mindset are disingenuous, there’s zero point in having a honest discussion.
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Post#180 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Fri Mar 7, 2025 6:50 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Guano wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?


Your loyalty is comendable


Let be fair here...I'm defending his skill set. I'm not defending his play. I'm not on here saying bridges is playing up to his potential he's not. I'm saying he's being used incorrectly.

You don't give up that package...and not run plays for him. If anything I think thats going to get Thibs fired down the road. The FO clearly believes in Bridges talent and fit to this team. He is being used like Dorien Finney Smith...can we at least agree with that?

DFS is pretty great for his salary tbh. Was on the Mavs and is a steal for the Lakers.

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