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[mpharris36]

Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.

No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot

Cam Payne takes deep above the break 3's. THe same shots that Donte would take...that is open to them. That is not a Mikal shot. If you wanted a player to take that shot he shouldn't have been acquired in the first place.

[Buttah304]

Mikal can you please cut with a sense of purpose, dribble, shoot, self create, play with confidence and not immediately throw it to back to Payne or Mitch in the open court

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[spree8]

oh yes...a guy that took 6 shots...that didn't touch the ball for maybe the entire 4th qtr...now is indecisive and not aggressive....how could that ever happen?

Thats why the offense needs to be more aggressive in getting better looks and running set for his personell. Mikal isn't Donte...mikal isn't just going to bomb 10 3's a game with range. If thats the role you are putting him in he's going to fail at it...

its the same reason KAT doesn't get good looks...he is just uber talented offensively so he makes his own offense most of the time. But rarely does KAT get an open look.

Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.

We could use a coaching upgrade but Mikal was awful last season in Brooklyn. He won’t admit that though.

Sooo in other words, Fire Thibs?

[mpharris36]

I already have. You been trashing OG to make up excuses for your boy Mikal. Nasty work

no one's trashing OG my man. In a game thread if he makes a bad play I comment. When he makes a good play I comment.

You get on people for subliminals but then throw out subliminals all the time. "people blaming thibs". Just quote me.

Bruh you been trashing OG every game while caping for Mikal. I been called you out for it. No subs there. And Get out of here with this narcissistic sht. You’re clearly not the only one who’s going in on Thibs for Mikal being trash. You Villanova fans won’t admit he’s mid.

find me where I even talk about Mikal in the game threads...I don't even mention him because he never touches the ball...whether its a combination of him not being aggressive enough or not getting plays ran for him his offense is pretty non-existent. I may comment on one or two good defensive plays he does (like he did tonight) but there really isn't much to talk about on offense because he doesn't really have the ball to even shoot it.

[Guano]

Guano...you can isolate a single play. Yes it was a bad decision...the game is 48 minutes...we run no offense.

And my point remains...KAT has bad games as well a lot of the time its because the shot selection is ass.

The Heat run a simple pin down for BAM a hand full of times a game to get him an open mid range jumper....do we run a single action to get anyone open? Or is it all reliant on brunson getting doubled?

Your loyalty is comendable

Let be fair here...I'm defending his skill set. I'm not defending his play. I'm not on here saying bridges is playing up to his potential he's not. I'm saying he's being used incorrectly.

You don't give up that package...and not run plays for him. If anything I think thats going to get Thibs fired down the road. The FO clearly believes in Bridges talent and fit to this team. He is being used like Dorien Finney Smith...can we at least agree with that?

100%

We are in agreement. Hell he isn't even using kat correctly. He shouls be firing up more 3s. With all that said play better in the role you're in. He is playing passive on offense is afraid to get to the rim/ft line. He fcked up his shot.

And it's understabdle that knicks fans are frustrated with a guy we gave up 5 picks for is underwhelming. And is being passive on the offensive end. I'm sure I'd like mikal if we didnt go all in on him. But as is this is crippling. We needed another creator and he isn't it. Regardless of system if he can't go 1v1

[Wildcat]

Bucks are 8-2 in their last 10, we were 6-4 with Brunson. This team without him is cooked.

That's overly pessimistic. Bucks have the harder trail end of the schedule. Knicks have the tie breaker. You're assuming a catastrophic meltdown. This team can play .500 ball.

If he's out for an extended period of time we're cooked. The team's offense has been in freefall since the new year, we're 12th in the league offensively since then, that is with Jalen. The offense and lack of creativity without him is going to be horrific.

Heh, I feel like I'm talking to my kid. You're telling me with 20 games to go, the Knicks without JB can't win 10 of those games, which include Charlotte, Dallas, Washington, San Antonio, Philly, and Brooklyn? Your perspective is highly skewed right now.

[HopelessKnick]

That turn of the ankle does not look like a DTD or 2week thing. At this point I would be ecstatic if Brunson misses only 2 weeks. To me this looks like 4-6 weeks at least, maybe out for season.

[BowlRips]

I get why we didn’t do many JB KAT pick n rolls today to avoid Brunson having LeBron switch on him, but there needed to be a double action or more post touches for KAT and more off ball movement (especially on the doubles). We’ve seen this team move with out the ball and make smart cuts. It’s easy to throw that on coaching, but when they show they can do it for multiple quarters, but get into ball stopping mode like they did in the early 4th when Jalen was resting that’s an execution issue. It’s also can issue of not having another on ball creator. Cam Payne 3s are cool when they are going in, but his main objective should be setting up his teammates and the offense, and tonight his minutes killed us.

Beginning of the season, it seemed like we played off Towns in the high post a ton.. now feels like we haven’t seen that in quite some time. Anyone else noticing it?

[Guano]

Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.

No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot

Cam Payne takes deep above the break 3's. THe same shots that Donte would take...that is open to them. That is not a Mikal shot. If you wanted a player to take that shot he shouldn't have been acquired in the first place.

Yo, he was taking those with the nyets

[3toheadmelo]

no one's trashing OG my man. In a game thread if he makes a bad play I comment. When he makes a good play I comment.

You get on people for subliminals but then throw out subliminals all the time. "people blaming thibs". Just quote me.

Bruh you been trashing OG every game while caping for Mikal. I been called you out for it. No subs there. And Get out of here with this narcissistic sht. You’re clearly not the only one who’s going in on Thibs for Mikal being trash. You Villanova fans won’t admit he’s mid.

find me where I even talk about Mikal in the game threads...I don't even mention him because he never touches the ball...whether its a combination of him not being aggressive enough or not getting plays ran for him his offense is pretty non-existent. I may comment on one or two good defensive plays he does (like he did tonight) but there really isn't much to talk about on offense because he doesn't really have the ball to even shoot it.

You’re literally defending Mikal to death right now and you’re telling me to find examples of you doing that.

[BBALLER4FR]

Bucks are 8-2 in their last 10, we were 6-4 with Brunson. This team without him is cooked.

That's overly pessimistic. Bucks have the harder trail end of the schedule. Knicks have the tie breaker. You're assuming a catastrophic meltdown. This team can play .500 ball.

If he's out for an extended period of time we're cooked. The team's offense has been in freefall since the new year, we're 12th in the league offensively since then, that is with Jalen. The offense and lack of creativity without him is going to be horrific.

I agree with you but I think the defense will tick up with Brunson out. Him missing time is not something to welcome, but something to welcome could come of him missing time. <---- That's fugging barz!

[Guano]

Your loyalty is comendable

Let be fair here...I'm defending his skill set. I'm not defending his play. I'm not on here saying bridges is playing up to his potential he's not. I'm saying he's being used incorrectly.

You don't give up that package...and not run plays for him. If anything I think thats going to get Thibs fired down the road. The FO clearly believes in Bridges talent and fit to this team. He is being used like Dorien Finney Smith...can we at least agree with that?

DFS is pretty great for his salary tbh. Was on the Mavs and is a steal for the Lakers.

Didn't cost 5 picks either

[robillionaire]

Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.

No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot

Cam Payne takes deep above the break 3's. THe same shots that Donte would take...that is open to them. That is not a Mikal shot. If you wanted a player to take that shot he shouldn't have been acquired in the first place.

Ok well Deuce took 6 shots in less than half the minutes and takes similar attempts as Mikal. OG had 3x the attempts and isn’t any better of a shot creator than Mikal he just played aggressively.

[JBreezeNY]

Posters once again being disingenuous with the Mikal commentary when you have a coach that doesn’t call plays. OG and KAT aren’t even utilized to their full capabilities but Mikal is just supposed to be this aggressive iso centric player even though that’s not his playstyle, just because we traded 5 picks for him?

You’re being woefully obtuse.

No we aren’t. He took 6 shot attempts in 43 minutes. The same Cam Payne had in 10. Dude didn’t want to shoot

Cam Payne takes deep above the break 3's. THe same shots that Donte would take...that is open to them. That is not a Mikal shot. If you wanted a player to take that shot he shouldn't have been acquired in the first place.

THANK YOU.

Why is it so hard for this to be comprehended.

Mikal isn’t a just throw me the ball and go to work player. People so used to watching isolation basketball they don’t realize there is nuance with playstyles. We shouldn’t have gotten Mikal if Thibs was going to be his coach.

[Buttah304]

Should have waited to throw a lob but he gives it up way too early cause he didn't want the rock. Man is a mess

Not only that but when he does get the ball he’s always going backwards. Looking like Okoro with an endless supply of minutes

It's frustrating to watch. He doesn't even look at the hoop when he gets the ball he is actively trying to get rid of it. And any time he has it in the paint if it's not clear he is taking a fade.

And we are nearing the end of the season and I honestly can't speak on his handle. OG's is comical but he atleast attacks with his. We never see novatilikina show his off.

I'm disgusted we gave up 5 picks for him. I wanted us to stagger him with the bench to create but he has shown he can do that or even wants to at all this season.

OG, for as awkward and stumbling and bumbling as he can be, has had so many more self creation moments this year. Times where you are borderline shocked Anunoby pulled off XYZ. Mikal likes to shoot corner 3s and take fades. It’s a different kind of boring then RJ, but it’s the same tasteless vanilla flavor.

[3toheadmelo]

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Yeah it's thibs fault that he gave the ball up to early on a break. It's thibs fault that he is afraid of contact. It's thibs fault that everytime he touches the rock he immediately gives it up. If he can't create he isn't worth 5 picks.

Blame everyone else but him. Next lets deflect - let's point point out how kat had a bad game or struggles too. novatilikina is a major disappointment regardless of the offensive system.

We could use a coaching upgrade but Mikal was awful last season in Brooklyn. He won’t admit that though.

Sooo in other words, Fire Thibs?

I’m not married to Thibs, but the players are a problem too. KAT has been getting exposed against the top contenders and Mikal has been mid for years now.

[mpharris36]

Your loyalty is comendable

Let be fair here...I'm defending his skill set. I'm not defending his play. I'm not on here saying bridges is playing up to his potential he's not. I'm saying he's being used incorrectly.

You don't give up that package...and not run plays for him. If anything I think thats going to get Thibs fired down the road. The FO clearly believes in Bridges talent and fit to this team. He is being used like Dorien Finney Smith...can we at least agree with that?

100%

We are in agreement. Hell he isn't even using kat correctly. He shouls be firing up more 3s. With all that said play better in the role you're in. He is playing passive on offense is afraid to get to the rim/ft line. He fcked up his shot.

And it's understabdle that knicks fans are frustrated with a guy we gave up 5 picks for is underwhelming. And is being passive on the offensive end. I'm sure I'd like mikal if we didnt go all in on him. But as is this is crippling. We needed another creator and he isn't it. Regardless of system if he can't go 1v1

I'm not saying you can't be frustrated...I'm frustrated. But if we keep treating Mikal like he's donte he's going to continue to struggle. The trade is done...no givesies backsies. So we are at a crossroads...keep playing him out of position...or actually use the things he does well and build off that?

And to your point...we don't use KAT well. He basically takes ATB 3's if a big sags off him...or he straight line drives.

Remember dantoni would run STAT off a pin down screen and hit him on the elbow so he could be in a triple threat spot. Either pull up for the mid range...or drive to the basket.

Just look to the last possession in overtime...Deuce was trying to force it to KAT on a 20 foot post up...which they denied...there was no player movement...no screens...just KAT run to deuce and try to get the ball.

How is that a legit play call down the stretch?

[robillionaire]

That's overly pessimistic. Bucks have the harder trail end of the schedule. Knicks have the tie breaker. You're assuming a catastrophic meltdown. This team can play .500 ball.

If he's out for an extended period of time we're cooked. The team's offense has been in freefall since the new year, we're 12th in the league offensively since then, that is with Jalen. The offense and lack of creativity without him is going to be horrific.

Heh, I feel like I'm talking to my kid. You're telling me with 20 games to go, the Knicks without JB can't win 10 of those games, which include Charlotte, Dallas, Washington, San Antonio, Philly, and Brooklyn? Your perspective is highly skewed right now.

It doesn’t matter either way. We can go to 4/5 and win and then see if Cleveland is a fugazi. We beat em 2 years ago. We know the Bucks and Celtics can win so they can have each other

[dakomish23]

Dorian Finney Bridges . Nice one MPH

[NoDopeOnSundays]

That's overly pessimistic. Bucks have the harder trail end of the schedule. Knicks have the tie breaker. You're assuming a catastrophic meltdown. This team can play .500 ball.

If he's out for an extended period of time we're cooked. The team's offense has been in freefall since the new year, we're 12th in the league offensively since then, that is with Jalen. The offense and lack of creativity without him is going to be horrific.

Heh, I feel like I'm talking to my kid. You're telling me with 20 games to go, the Knicks without JB can't win 10 of those games, which include Charlotte, Dallas, Washington, San Antonio, Philly, and Brooklyn? Your perspective is highly skewed right now.

We have been in OT games with the Hawks, Bulls and Wiz, and beat the garbage ass Sixers by just 5 points last week and you're talking about winning 10 games without Brunson? Hilarious.