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Post#741 » by Bob8 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:30 pm

Mr B wrote:Just be prepared. Nico is going to trade Lively and multiple 1st round picks for KD this off season.


https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/44108357/kevin-durant-trade-proposals-four-deals-suns-star

It's laughable, but it's Nico so everything is possible
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Post#742 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:37 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Just be prepared. Nico is going to trade Lively and multiple 1st round picks for KD this off season.


https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/44108357/kevin-durant-trade-proposals-four-deals-suns-star

It's laughable, but it's Nico so everything is possible


Durant wants to choice where play last years of his career, a lottery team is not a great destination for a 37yo ring chaser.

Nico plan is already failed. No way.
He can't save his ass.
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Post#743 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:50 pm

It's sports enterntainment. Kyrie, KD, and AD would still get fans to buy tickets, sell merch etc. You don't go to jail for losing out on a ring. 29 other teams lose out every year. I think Nico goes for it. But just my gut feel.

KD will cost a lot. But I think he goes for it.
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Post#744 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 1:28 pm

He doesn't simply losing out on a ring... He destroyed a Finals roster and an entire fanbase.

I don't think KD would want to play here honestly.
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Post#745 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 7, 2025 1:42 pm

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Mr B wrote:Just be prepared. Nico is going to trade Lively and multiple 1st round picks for KD this off season.


I don't think Lively will be something really special (i hope I'm dead wrong obviously) and he is another street clothes in the making but trade all our assets for 37KD could destroy this franchise for a decade.

Yea there’s a real possibility that the reason Lively was so good was because of Luka.
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Post#746 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 7, 2025 1:43 pm

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Mr B wrote:Just be prepared. Nico is going to trade Lively and multiple 1st round picks for KD this off season.


https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/44108357/kevin-durant-trade-proposals-four-deals-suns-star

It's laughable, but it's Nico so everything is possible

Nico proved there are no untouchables on this roster.
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Post#747 » by Bob8 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 1:49 pm

Mr B wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Just be prepared. Nico is going to trade Lively and multiple 1st round picks for KD this off season.


https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/44108357/kevin-durant-trade-proposals-four-deals-suns-star

It's laughable, but it's Nico so everything is possible

Nico proved there are no untouchables on this roster.


If he makes that or similar trade, it's basically over for Mavs for 10+ years. And team with Kyrie/AD/KD and nothing on the bench can't come even close to the Finals.
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Post#748 » by Archx » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:10 pm

arkuo wrote:KD will cost a lot. But I think he goes for it.


I fear Nico feels this way yeah. He's already all in on AD basically but with Kyrie possibly not playing even next season, we'll see. But i would think Nico feels the pressure of delivering a ring RIGHT NOW. So he might do the next worst move he can make, which is completely decimating Mavs depth. Suns have the same problems for 2 seasons now and with all the injuries this team constantly has i'm not sure it's a smart move going all in on KD.

Worst thing in all of this is, Nico already killed the future but if the trades for KD, then it's basically a year window tops then off to the rebuild for the next 10 years....
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Post#749 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:37 pm

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arkuo wrote:KD will cost a lot. But I think he goes for it.


I fear Nico feels this way yeah. He's already all in on AD basically but with Kyrie possibly not playing even next season, we'll see. But i would think Nico feels the pressure of delivering a ring RIGHT NOW. So he might do the next worst move he can make, which is completely decimating Mavs depth. Suns have the same problems for 2 seasons now and with all the injuries this team constantly has i'm not sure it's a smart move going all in on KD.

Worst thing in all of this is, Nico already killed the future but if the trades for KD, then it's basically a year window tops then off to the rebuild for the next 10 years....



I feel the opposite. Getting KD would allow Kyrie and AD to sit out some games and vice versa. These 3 guys aren't playing 82 games a year. So with all the firepower, you can probably sit one guy one every game (in rotation for load management) for the year and have all 3 present in the postseason. Without KD, you're betting that one of Kyrie or AD can carry the whole season in a "your turn, my turn" setup. Allowing a competitor to get KD just means another hurdle in Nico's goal to deliver a ring RIGHT NOW. So one less thing to worry about if you get him in your fold.

Kyrie has the work ethic of a Kobe Bryant. I trust that he'll be alright with his rehab. And with Jeanie Buss recently throwing AD under the bus, I would expect it would motivate him as well.
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Post#750 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:41 pm

KD's game at 36 kinda resembles that of Dirk's. A lot of midrange fadeaways, drives and threes. But KD is KD man. Still good for 27-6-4.

When you get a KD and a Kyrie, it's AD's game that will have to take a back seat a bit. Similar to that of Bosh and Kevin Love. How much he's willing to sacrifice is the question. I think when you put them in order, KD clears AD so the latter has to take a back seat.
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Post#751 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:01 pm

arkuo wrote:KD's game at 36 kinda resembles that of Dirk's. A lot of midrange fadeaways, drives and threes. But KD is KD man. Still good for 27-6-4.

When you get a KD and a Kyrie, it's AD's game that will have to take a back seat a bit. Similar to that of Bosh and Kevin Love. How much he's willing to sacrifice is the question. I think when you put them in order, KD clears AD so the latter has to take a back seat.


You live in the past... KD is still a good player but numbers are fool's gold, Suns are behind those crap Mavs :lol: :lol: :lol:

And about street clothes, come on... Without LeBron he can barely played 1 turn of PO.

It seems Brooklyn Nets and Phoenix Suns never happened, people's memory is always too short.

kyrie-KD-AD in 2026 have second round ceiling(If they play at least 60/65 games each).
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Post#752 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:11 pm

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arkuo wrote:KD's game at 36 kinda resembles that of Dirk's. A lot of midrange fadeaways, drives and threes. But KD is KD man. Still good for 27-6-4.

When you get a KD and a Kyrie, it's AD's game that will have to take a back seat a bit. Similar to that of Bosh and Kevin Love. How much he's willing to sacrifice is the question. I think when you put them in order, KD clears AD so the latter has to take a back seat.


You live in the past... KD is still a good player but numbers are fool's gold, Suns are behind those crap Mavs :lol: :lol: :lol:

And about street clothes, come on... Without LeBron he can barely played 1 turn of PO.

It seems Brooklyn Nets and Phoenix Suns never happened, people's memory is always too short.

kyrie-KD-AD in 2026 have second round ceiling(If they play at least 60/65 games each).


You cant classify KD's numbers as fools gold and turn around and say lUka aLmOsT GeTs TrIpLe dOuBleS so those numbers are good as well. For context, Kyrie averages 25-4-4. If that's good for you then KD should be good as well. Don't be selective.

Call a spade, a spade. 27-6-4 is pretty good. If KD didn't have that big shoe with the Nets, he wouldn't have stepped on the line and the Nets would have went to the finals over Giannis IMO.
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Post#753 » by Archx » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:15 pm

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arkuo wrote:KD will cost a lot. But I think he goes for it.


I fear Nico feels this way yeah. He's already all in on AD basically but with Kyrie possibly not playing even next season, we'll see. But i would think Nico feels the pressure of delivering a ring RIGHT NOW. So he might do the next worst move he can make, which is completely decimating Mavs depth. Suns have the same problems for 2 seasons now and with all the injuries this team constantly has i'm not sure it's a smart move going all in on KD.

Worst thing in all of this is, Nico already killed the future but if the trades for KD, then it's basically a year window tops then off to the rebuild for the next 10 years....



I feel the opposite. Getting KD would allow Kyrie and AD to sit out some games and vice versa. These 3 guys aren't playing 82 games a year. So with all the firepower, you can probably sit one guy one every game (in rotation for load management) for the year and have all 3 present in the postseason. Without KD, you're betting that one of Kyrie or AD can carry the whole season in a "your turn, my turn" setup. Allowing a competitor to get KD just means another hurdle in Nico's goal to deliver a ring RIGHT NOW. So one less thing to worry about if you get him in your fold.

Kyrie has the work ethic of a Kobe Bryant. I trust that he'll be alright with his rehab. And with Jeanie Buss recently throwing AD under the bus, I would expect it would motivate him as well.


Look at the Suns problems they're having since getting KD. If either PJ or Lively is gone, there goes 50% of your defense and some offense.
If you want to rest AD/Kyrie at 34yo with an 37/38yo KD... well good luck mate. I think you underestimate the depth Mavs have had this year even with Luka out and everyone else remotely healthy.
If you go after KD and with Kyrie's extension coming up, you better hope that you can sign some good role players and not just vet min guys. That's why trading Grimes was another terrible mistake. Should have stayed and waited out to see what happens in the off season. He's still young and good in his role. If you want to decimate the roster for KD, at least you would still have some great role players on the team.

If this trade goes through, it's going to be a core of AD/Kyrie/KD/Christie/Klay.... If they can manage to keep one of PJ/Lively/Gaff, that would already be a huge success. But what are the odds? Gaff will demand a paycheck so he's likely gone, while either Lively or PJ will be gone in the trade.. Or even both.

So yeah, KD would mean a disaster for this team. NO CHANCE a broken Kyrie, injury prone AD and an aging KD will be able to carry this team anywhere. Round 2 max....
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Post#754 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:20 pm

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arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
I fear Nico feels this way yeah. He's already all in on AD basically but with Kyrie possibly not playing even next season, we'll see. But i would think Nico feels the pressure of delivering a ring RIGHT NOW. So he might do the next worst move he can make, which is completely decimating Mavs depth. Suns have the same problems for 2 seasons now and with all the injuries this team constantly has i'm not sure it's a smart move going all in on KD.

Worst thing in all of this is, Nico already killed the future but if the trades for KD, then it's basically a year window tops then off to the rebuild for the next 10 years....



I feel the opposite. Getting KD would allow Kyrie and AD to sit out some games and vice versa. These 3 guys aren't playing 82 games a year. So with all the firepower, you can probably sit one guy one every game (in rotation for load management) for the year and have all 3 present in the postseason. Without KD, you're betting that one of Kyrie or AD can carry the whole season in a "your turn, my turn" setup. Allowing a competitor to get KD just means another hurdle in Nico's goal to deliver a ring RIGHT NOW. So one less thing to worry about if you get him in your fold.

Kyrie has the work ethic of a Kobe Bryant. I trust that he'll be alright with his rehab. And with Jeanie Buss recently throwing AD under the bus, I would expect it would motivate him as well.


Look at the Suns problems they're having since getting KD. If either PJ or Lively is gone, there goes 50% of your defense and some offense.
If you want to rest AD/Kyrie at 34yo with an 37/38yo KD... well good luck mate. I think you underestimate the depth Mavs have had this year even with Luka out and everyone else remotely healthy.
If you go after KD and with Kyrie's extension coming up, you better hope that you can sign some good role players and not just vet min guys. That's why trading Grimes was another terrible mistake. Should have stayed and waited out to see what happens in the off season. He's still young and good in his role. If you want to decimate the roster for KD, at least you would still have some great role players on the team.

If this trade goes through, it's going to be a core of AD/Kyrie/KD/Christie/Klay.... If they can manage to keep one of PJ/Lively/Gaff, that would already be a huge success. But what are the odds? Gaff will demand a paycheck so he's likely gone, while either Lively or PJ will be gone in the trade.. Or even both.

So yeah, KD would mean a disaster for this team. NO CHANCE a broken Kyrie, injury prone AD and an aging KD will be able to carry this team anywhere. Round 2 max....


I agree they have to fill the roster out if the trade pushes through. That's Nico's problem. All I'm saying is I'm in favor of load managing these guys for the postseason. Because if they do enter the postseason, you're still not leaving KD wide open even at 37 years old. You're not leaving AD unguarded in the paint. The playoffs is a game of luck. Seeding, injuries, matchups etc. You just put yourself in a good position to compete and hope you get lucky along the way. And I think KD, Kyrie and AD puts you in a nice spot. After that, it's anybody's ball game. How the dice rolls is up to these guys.
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Post#755 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:26 pm

I think Nico has a plan. He's not dumb. He bet against Luka in the open. He's not just planning to be ridiculed all the way. I think he has a plan, albeit a diabolic plan of getting "his boys" together, but a plan nonetheless. He's not putting his neck out just for the sake of. If you believe that then there's no reasoning there. Time will tell if his plan works out.

Look, he made a trade. A trade that most didn't feel at home with because of sentimental attachments with Luka. But that doesn't mean it's a crime. It's not against any law in the US. If all of this doesn't work out, then it's his neck. He bet against Luka. He placed a bet on winning a ring at shortest possible time for his KPI. I don't think he's putting his neck out just for the sake of. In his mind it works. So we'll see. I'm actually excited to see if its a boom or a bust. One of the more interesting case studies for me. Because if it works, then he'll be remembered as the guy who traded Luka and assembled 3 grandpas from Team USA. If it doesn't then he gets fired or re-assigned to some resort in Macau. But to put your whole career on the line like that, god damn. :lol:
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Post#756 » by Bob8 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:32 pm

arkuo wrote:I think Nico has a plan. He's not dumb. He bet against Luka in the open. He's not just planning to be ridiculed all the way. I think he has a plan, albeit a diabolic plan of getting "his boys" together, but a plan nonetheless. He's not putting his neck out just for the sake of. If you believe that then there's no reasoning there. Time will tell if his plan works out.

Look, he made a trade. A trade that most didn't feel at home with because of sentimental attachments with Luka. But that doesn't mean it's a crime. It's not against any law in the US. If all of this doesn't work out, then it's his neck. He bet against Luka. He placed a bet on winning a ring at shortest possible time for his KPI. I don't think he's putting his neck out just for the sake of. In his mind it works. So we'll see. I'm actually excited to see if its a boom or a bust. One of the more interesting case studies for me.


I'm more and more convinced, Arkuo is Nico. Nico, it's over. This year is over and next year is over, because 33 years old Kyrie won't risk everything to come out soon.
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Post#757 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:34 pm

Getting KD with AD and Kyrie would still sell tickets to casuals. Your run of the mill families will still purchase season tickets. But that's the business side of things. The hardcore fans who are attached to Luka won't see both sides clearly. You need 15 first rounders to call it fair, then it won't be a conversation to begin with. There's just no way to win an argument there. But the Luka stans, like the Kawhi stans and Bronsexuals, they will have to adjust to cheering for Cleveland to Miami and now LA for Bron. Kawhi had his fans move from San Antonio to Toronto to LA now. It'll blow over.
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Post#758 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:43 pm

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arkuo wrote:KD's game at 36 kinda resembles that of Dirk's. A lot of midrange fadeaways, drives and threes. But KD is KD man. Still good for 27-6-4.

When you get a KD and a Kyrie, it's AD's game that will have to take a back seat a bit. Similar to that of Bosh and Kevin Love. How much he's willing to sacrifice is the question. I think when you put them in order, KD clears AD so the latter has to take a back seat.


You live in the past... KD is still a good player but numbers are fool's gold, Suns are behind those crap Mavs :lol: :lol: :lol:

And about street clothes, come on... Without LeBron he can barely played 1 turn of PO.

It seems Brooklyn Nets and Phoenix Suns never happened, people's memory is always too short.

kyrie-KD-AD in 2026 have second round ceiling(If they play at least 60/65 games each).


You cant classify KD's numbers as fools gold and turn around and say lUka aLmOsT GeTs TrIpLe dOuBleS so those numbers are good as well. For context, Kyrie averages 25-4-4. If that's good for you then KD should be good as well. Don't be selective.

Call a spade, a spade. 27-6-4 is pretty good. If KD didn't have that big shoe with the Nets, he wouldn't have stepped on the line and the Nets would have went to the finals over Giannis IMO.


I don't care about numbers, nobody here but you talked about numbers (Slovenian Westbrook ecc ecc).
Kyrie numbers are good because there was Luka on the team, without a floor general the Mavs will be the new Phoenix Suns.

Luka played Finals 7 months ago when KD was on vacancy. End of the story. Stop trolling.

We all know that you are a Luka hater and you are crazy happy right now because he is gone but stop write bullshits. Please.
Your posts are an insult to human intelligence.

Enjoy to see your Mavs without Luka and i hope that moron will trade for KD so you finally see how dumbs are your posts and your basketball vision.
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Post#759 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:44 pm

arkuo wrote:Getting KD with AD and Kyrie would still sell tickets to casuals. Your run of the mill families will still purchase season tickets. But that's the business side of things. The hardcore fans who are attached to Luka won't see both sides clearly. You need 15 first rounders to call it fair, then it won't be a conversation to begin with. There's just no way to win an argument there. But the Luka stans, like the Kawhi stans and Bronsexuals, they will have to adjust to cheering for Cleveland to Miami and now LA for Bron. Kawhi had his fans move from San Antonio to Toronto to LA now. It'll blow over.


Agree and you are the perfect example.

But wins Championships is another question.
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Post#760 » by arkuo » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:48 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Luka played Finals 7 months ago when KD was on vacancy. End of the story. Stop trolling.


But the Mavs didn't win. If you're not in first place, it doesn't matter. You're lumped with 29 other teams who lost out and you regroup the following year. Both Luka and KD lost out. I'm not defending either. If you want to enjoy the 2nd place trophy (if you have one), then go ahead. No one is stopping you from starting a parade for 2nd placer in the NBA finals. Be my guest. Call me when your parade is about to start.

End of story.

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