2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread (Pt. 3: Son of daughter of MVP thread)

[Jaqua92]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

This is fairly pathetic. Its 3 days away.

"Winning is all that matters" they say. The mvp race is figuratively over and those two games are meaningless. Lol small wins matter I guess

[DrModesty]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

This is fairly pathetic. Its 3 days away.

"Winning is all that matters" they say. The mvp race is figuratively over and those two games are meaningless. Lol small wins matter I guess

An upstanding team like the Celtics would never rest players.

[Mrakar]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

[Exp0sed]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

they've been playing for SGA's MVP campaign for a while now. check out his shot distribution vs. the other starters, he's been taking a bigger portion of shots now that everyone's healthy, more than he was taking when they weren't and it seems pretty clear that's driven by the entire team wanting SGA to win.they're a young team and seem very close-knit and they obviously know these 40\50 pts games are what has won it for him and that's their perogative, nothing wrong with that. i'm sure Nuggets players would have done the same if Jokic cared about MVP (he doesn't)

with that said, the Nuggets aren't very good especally away from home and the game is a few days away so I doubt they're resting guys just for that. maybe they want PDX to get into the play-in and face them in the first round lol

it's been a long season and they secured the top seed in the West. yes, in theory they're competing for HCA vs. the Cavs if that particular series came out to be the finals but that's not very likely to happen anyway. imagine if SGA gets seriously injured in one of these meaningless games. it's wise for them to rest in general but SGA has played low mins during the season and he's in his prime not like he needs the rest but that's just how it is nowadays

[RB34]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

In reality he should just flop for fouls every time he gets hit so he can shoot 10+ FTs per game.

[Exp0sed]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

In reality he should just flop for fouls every time he gets hit so he can shoot 10+ FTs per game.

it's a very different profile of fouls tho. Jokic gets fouled alot on the ball and he's getting ok calls on the ball - it's off the ball where he's being robbed. the Pistons game was the best example imo, the one where Malone got a tech after the first possesion, in which Jokic's movement (without the ball) was impeded like 5 different times without a single call and Jokic was waving his arms around and letting the officials know - they still didn't call a foul..

imagine impeding a guard coming off a screen like that...different rules for the Joker apparently but that's how it's always been with ultra dominant players tbh.Jokic is getting the Shaq treatment off the ball, movment impeded, "ball denial" that's actually grabbing his jersey or waist with the off hand, hacked and mauled plus getting shoved with both hands by smaller players under the basket going up for rebounds. opponents know refs are gonna call a foul maybe once per 3-4 fouls and they foul frequently

nothing new under the sun

edit: to be clear, SGA and his teammates padding his campaign a little is legit and actually nice to see, they they're such a close team etc and he'd deserve this MVP regardless, even without these little improvements in the margins

it's also smart for them to give their guys extra rest and not try to break rs records but instead stay focused on the real goal and that's the playoffs. well run organization

[Jaqua92]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

This is fairly pathetic. Its 3 days away.

"Winning is all that matters" they say. The mvp race is figuratively over and those two games are meaningless. Lol small wins matter I guess

An upstanding team like the Celtics would never rest players.

Rest players for a game that may or may not have mvp implications?

Absolutely not lol

[Special_Puppy]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

He responded poorly to the coverage in the Lakers and Kings games

[EmpireFalls]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

they've been playing for SGA's MVP campaign for a while now. check out his shot distribution vs. the other starters, he's been taking a bigger portion of shots now that everyone's healthy, more than he was taking when they weren't and it seems pretty clear that's driven by the entire team wanting SGA to win.they're a young team and seem very close-knit and they obviously know these 40\50 pts games are what has won it for him and that's their perogative, nothing wrong with that. i'm sure Nuggets players would have done the same if Jokic cared about MVP (he doesn't)

The Thunder have the best net rating of all time and are 40 games above .500

If “playing for SGA to win MVP” can still produce these results, well, what does that tell you…?

[RRR3]

Jaqua might actually cry when SGA wins mvp

[AleksandarN]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

Triple teamed? That doesn’t look like triple team to me.

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[AleksandarN]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

they've been playing for SGA's MVP campaign for a while now. check out his shot distribution vs. the other starters, he's been taking a bigger portion of shots now that everyone's healthy, more than he was taking when they weren't and it seems pretty clear that's driven by the entire team wanting SGA to win.they're a young team and seem very close-knit and they obviously know these 40\50 pts games are what has won it for him and that's their perogative, nothing wrong with that. i'm sure Nuggets players would have done the same if Jokic cared about MVP (he doesn't)

with that said, the Nuggets aren't very good especally away from home and the game is a few days away so I doubt they're resting guys just for that. maybe they want PDX to get into the play-in and face them in the first round lol

it's been a long season and they secured the top seed in the West. yes, in theory they're competing for HCA vs. the Cavs if that particular series came out to be the finals but that's not very likely to happen anyway. imagine if SGA gets seriously injured in one of these meaningless games. it's wise for them to rest in general but SGA has played low mins during the season and he's in his prime not like he needs the rest but that's just how it is nowadays

Actually the Nuggets have a better away record this year compared to the last couple of years. It is the home games which are down.

[slick_watts]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

This is fairly pathetic. Its 3 days away.

"Winning is all that matters" they say. The mvp race is figuratively over and those two games are meaningless. Lol small wins matter I guess

the thunder are 10+ games ahead in the west. they just came off playing 8 of 13 days with six of those on the road. shai is resting but everyone else is listed with injuries they've been dealing with since the break.

there is no evidence the thunder resting guys has anything to do with the mvp race or anything else besides getting some rest after a tough stretch but you do you.

[Exp0sed]

Okc resting everyone to get ready for denver on Sunday. They know what that game means for sga

they've been playing for SGA's MVP campaign for a while now. check out his shot distribution vs. the other starters, he's been taking a bigger portion of shots now that everyone's healthy, more than he was taking when they weren't and it seems pretty clear that's driven by the entire team wanting SGA to win.they're a young team and seem very close-knit and they obviously know these 40\50 pts games are what has won it for him and that's their perogative, nothing wrong with that. i'm sure Nuggets players would have done the same if Jokic cared about MVP (he doesn't)

The Thunder have the best net rating of all time and are 40 games above .500

If “playing for SGA to win MVP” can still produce these results, well, what does that tell you…?

It tells me the Thunder FO and their COTY have figured out how to exploit the current rules and schemes and having so many young players (many still on their rookie contracts!) producing at such a high level is the ultimate "hack" in this current CBA


I'd say i expect alot of copycating around the league but you'd need their level of drafting and developing to really mimick them and not many teams have that. It does make a strong case for good teams to draft relatively NBA ready players,who can contribute to winning while still on their rookie contracts (we see a similar thing in Denver who'd be cooked this season if not for Braun and to a lesser extent Watson and Strawtether, Braun has been their 2nd best player this season imo and he's making like 5M)

It remains to be seen how it holds up in the playoffs (i'm high on them winning it all this year but I felt the same way albeit to a lesser extent last season too) but for the rs they def proved it's a recipe for success

They took a unique approach to team building but also in terms of x's and o's and SGA is a true franchise player which is also an imperative ingredient in that recipe

It certainly doesn't convince me SGA has had a better season than Jokic and imo he hasn't but he's most def and unquestionably the MVP

For reference the Suns shell out north of a 150m for KD + Booker + Beal,
while the Thunder are paying a combined 75M this season for the services of: J-Dub + Chet + Dort + Joe + Wiggins + Caruso + Kenrich + Wallace

Hard to compete with that..that's what the Thunder's season tells me

That's 8 real NBA players, mostly good role players with a couple of stars, J-Dub has been a top 20 player this season...

Nuggets are shelling out 87m (more than those 8 combined) for just Jokic and Murray

It's kind of like Steph struggling with his ankles and ending up on a bargain contract for the Dubs dynasty peak but here we have a limited window, wherein the Thunder are paying SGA what MPJ makes..while having basically two top 20-30 players a combined 15m. granted, Chet has missed alot of the season but still, in the RS that's very hard to compete with. As rotations shrink in the playoffs, that edge gets reduced somewhat but either way, they're a heck of a team and personally i'm rooting for them

Imagine the championship parade with these young boys goofing around



edit: I forgot to list Jaylin and Dieng, cuz i did it quickly. that's a sick roster. currently the Thunder reserves are locking up Portland in the first quarter

update: Jaylin has a triple double with a team high +30. 2 mins left and OKC is up 12...

[Mrakar]

Guy being tripple teamed and being punished for that in most VALUABLE player race bcs his stats suffer is epic...

He responded poorly to the coverage in the Lakers and Kings games

tell me you dont know anything about basketball without telling me you dont know anything about basketball...

[OkcSinceSGA]

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[DrModesty]

This is fairly pathetic. Its 3 days away.

"Winning is all that matters" they say. The mvp race is figuratively over and those two games are meaningless. Lol small wins matter I guess

An upstanding team like the Celtics would never rest players.

Rest players for a game that may or may not have mvp implications?

Absolutely not lol

We wouldn't know. The celtics haven't had an MVP candidate since resting players became a thing.

[RB34]

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For reference, SGA is 66th in rebounds 405 behind Joker. 12th in assists 201 behind joker. 2nd in steals 12 in front of joker.

[Jaqua92]

An upstanding team like the Celtics would never rest players.

Rest players for a game that may or may not have mvp implications?

Absolutely not lol

We wouldn't know. The celtics haven't had an MVP candidate since resting players became a thing.

Again, absolutely not. Nice try with the bait though